Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte | BT PPV - 23 April 2022

[Verdi]

Fury will smash Whyte. No way he vacates..

I don't think Fury smashes Whyte - Whyte may be limited, but he can proper fight .. he ain't no Wilder.
Those Wilder fights have plastered over Fury's deficits .. Fury is seriously over hyped.

John has been calling for Tyson to retire; at this point Tyson doesn't need the belts. I don't doubt he and the WBC can come to an agreement that sees Whyte side stepped to allow the mega fight with Joshua or Usyk to happen.

Whyte would just be a belt holder - Fury is the recognised number 1 in the division.

Wilder would destroy Whyte

[margaret thatcher]

wilder -whyte would be a fun fight, both having their moments, but ultimately probably wilder ko

wilder never beats anyone good without getting a fight first, even guys like molina and spzilka gave him some issues. he's not just walking through whyte easy work

[jtourettes]

Hope this fight comes off, great British fight while we wait for the undisputed. I don't think Whyte will trouble Fury particularly but he comes to fight and win.

Not sure why people are denigrating Fury's win against Klitschko though, that pretty much talks down aj's best win by proxy.

[DrDuke]

[tigermoth87]

Not a fight I care about. Whyte got KO'd by an old, shot Povetkin. He got taken to the limit twice by fringe level Chisora.

[Coco]

Not a fight I care about. Whyte got KO'd by an old, shot Povetkin. He got taken to the limit twice by fringe level Chisora.

Look at how Firy dealt with Chisora and how Whyte did it.

Furthermore Chisora and Whyte are similar stylistically

[tonyevs]

How sure are we Fury can still move like that nowadays; since the first Wilder fight he has fought a lot more flat footed .. it could be merely tactics; it could be age ..

He needs to fight Whyte. Nobody will complain if it's a one sided beating he gives Whyte.

[Coco]

How sure are we Fury can still move like that nowadays; since the first Wilder fight he has fought a lot more flat footed .. it could be merely tactics; it could be age ..

He needs to fight Whyte. Nobody will complain if it's a one sided beating he gives Whyte.

While it should be an easy fight for Fury, Whyte has earned his spot and it isn't like there is a long line of better challengers

[mickey1975]

Tyson will beat him anyway he chooses. Parker had him gone, lost on a headbutt.

[Boxerbeetle]

Fury is all wrong for Whyte, assuming he takes it seriously.

[Cyclops]

Truth be told, Fury Whyte will sell because Whyte is a big Matchroom guy with plenty of fans and Fury is Fury, but it's likely not a competitive fight at all. There's a Rizla-width between Whyte and Chisora in terms of ability (look at their common opponent, Parker, who Whyte had over with a clash of heads and Chisora banged to the canvas with a proper punch- and Del was never down against Parker, whereas Whyte barely survived)so there's really no evidence that Dillion will be anything other than a spirited punching bag.

Wilder takes an enormous amount of criticism for being awful, but he has the touch of death and a curious chin and engine, where he can look both gassed and hurt and still switch your lights out. He'd KO Whyte, even this post Fury 3 version. Whyte has worked hard to be where he's at but he is just Dereck but with the judges on his side and Hearn's hyperbole.

It's a weird one. They're talking about Joyce instead, and while I think Joyce would beat Whyte and would probably be the better opponent, I think they'd be foolish to try that one and think that it would sell out or even do great numbers. Joyce is not the draw Dillian is as Warren has been sh*t at building his profile, and it would be depressing for another of Fury's 'homecomings' as champion to flop, like the Wlad rematch did, just because everybody involved is so greedy.

The fans who'll pay want Whyte. So I think they should get it.

I'm going whoever it is, but it would be nice to drink some salty Matchroom tears in the arena after.

[mickey1975]

Tyson is a million times the draw he was at the time of the Wlad rematch. He's crossed over.

[Cyclops]

Tyson is a million times the draw he was at the time of the Wlad rematch. He's crossed over.

I'm a big Fury fan, Mick. I've bought tickets for him multiple times, and the same with Joyce. Joyce isn't a big draw, and it's still very much debatable how much of ticket seller Fury will be back on these shores. I personally think Fury needs Whyte to sell out whichever venue he chooses. Your loyalty should be commended, but I don't think it'll be any harder to get tickets for this than it was to get tickets for, say, Froch-Groves 2? (And that's with Whyte in the picture. Joyce, even though I love the big cement-headed lump, that's even easier.) I even went back in and bought Lefty a ticket for that when he was panicking he couldn't get one.

I think people have forgotten about Matchroom's shady deal with Stubhub and how they engineered demand through hype generated by almost immediate sell-outs: it was a huge part of the brand building, alongside Joshua's marketability. That and the Sky backing. It was all a perfect storm that's looking like it's blown over with AJ losing to Usyk.

[gregregegg]

Tyson is a million times the draw he was at the time of the Wlad rematch. He's crossed over.

I'm a big Fury fan, Mick. I've bought tickets for him multiple times, and the same with Joyce. Joyce isn't a big draw, and it's still very much debatable how much of ticket seller Fury will be back on these shores. I personally think Fury needs Whyte to sell out whichever venue he chooses. Your loyalty should be commended, but I don't think it'll be any harder to get tickets for this than it was to get tickets for, say, Froch-Groves 2? (And that's with Whyte in the picture. Joyce, even though I love the big cement-headed lump, that's even easier.) I even went back in and bought Lefty a ticket for that when he was panicking he couldn't get one.

I think people have forgotten about Matchroom's shady deal with Stubhub and how they engineered demand through hype generated by almost immediate sell-outs: it was a huge part of the brand building, alongside Joshua's marketability. That and the Sky backing. It was all a perfect storm that's looking like it's blown over with AJ losing to Usyk.

I think fury vs Joyce sells out Wembley if they want it. Fury has a massive fan base, mabey as big as AJs now, plus this might be the only ever big fury fight on British soil, hard to pass that opportunity up. Joyce on his own isn’t a massive draw but he has his fans and is a very sellable opponent for fury, will be talking up how he should be a gold medalist ect.

[Cyclops]

Tyson is a million times the draw he was at the time of the Wlad rematch. He's crossed over.

I'm a big Fury fan, Mick. I've bought tickets for him multiple times, and the same with Joyce. Joyce isn't a big draw, and it's still very much debatable how much of ticket seller Fury will be back on these shores. I personally think Fury needs Whyte to sell out whichever venue he chooses. Your loyalty should be commended, but I don't think it'll be any harder to get tickets for this than it was to get tickets for, say, Froch-Groves 2? (And that's with Whyte in the picture. Joyce, even though I love the big cement-headed lump, that's even easier.) I even went back in and bought Lefty a ticket for that when he was panicking he couldn't get one.

I think people have forgotten about Matchroom's shady deal with Stubhub and how they engineered demand through hype generated by almost immediate sell-outs: it was a huge part of the brand building, alongside Joshua's marketability. That and the Sky backing. It was all a perfect storm that's looking like it's blown over with AJ losing to Usyk.

I think fury vs Joyce sells out Wembley if they want it. Fury has a massive fan base, mabey as big as AJs now, plus this might be the only ever big fury fight on British soil, hard to pass that opportunity up. Joyce on his own isn’t a massive draw but he has his fans and is a very sellable opponent for fury, will be talking up how he should be a gold medalist ect.

Well I'd love to be proved wrong. Not so wrong I can't even get a f*cking ticket, though!

[DrDuke]

Fury's every fight in his home country gotta sell. However, with Whyte it is likely to sell more than with Joyce, because with Whyte the buildup will be epic as hell, but in terms of matching Whyte is an easier opponent. Whyte is a very vulnerable fighter, while Joyce is like an iron man.

[tonyevs]

If it's not Whyte, then expect an Ali Eren Demirezen to be brought in ..

Joyce definitely won't get the call.

[DrDuke]

If it's not Whyte, then expect an Ali Eren Demirezen to be brought in ..

Joyce definitely won't get the call.

Why Demirezen? Wasn't Fury's promotion talking either Whyte or Joyce?

[tonyevs]

If it's not Whyte, then expect an Ali Eren Demirezen to be brought in ..

Joyce definitely won't get the call.

Why Demirezen? Wasn't Fury's promotion talking either Whyte or Joyce?

I meant an opponent like Demirezen. A pretty much unknown; decent looking record, with the loss to emphasise there will be minimum risks ..
As someone previously wrote above - what Tyson and his team say is very often very different from what they do.

*Just seen Demirezen has a fight scheduled anyways.

[jamesmcdonnell]

I get the feeling that we won't see Tyson fight more than a couple of times.

He must be desperate for Joshua to win the rematch, because that's the biggest payday for both men, though I wonder if it will ever happen, because I anticipate a lot of sabre rattling over who gets the bigger cut.

[tonyevs]

If Joshua wins I feel he has a better PR team around him than Fury to demand at least 50/50; despite Fury being the recognised number 1 heavyweight.

The PR will sell to the casuals how Joshua is even better than before, and so much more able to beat Fury because of the lessons learnt in the defeat to Usyk ..

[jamesmcdonnell]

If Joshua wins I feel he has a better PR team around him than Fury to demand at least 50/50; despite Fury being the recognised number 1 heavyweight.

The PR will sell to the casuals how Joshua is even better than before, and so much more able to beat Fury because of the lessons learnt in the defeat to Usyk ..

PR or no PR, Tyson may decide he's not interested in conceding anything.

[Frostieballs]

I’m obviously in a large minority here - and I am no stranger to being proved wrong, but I think:

- Fury vs Whyte is a close fight
- Fury’s wins over Wilder are overrated
- Wilder is fringe Euro level
- Fury has deteriorated since the first Wilder fight
- Fury is at the tipping point of have zero motivation
- Parker isn’t ‘that bad’
- Fury vs Joshua remains a 50-50

[mickey1975]

Wilder is fringe European level? Wow.
Parker and Tyson are genuinely close.

[Frostieballs]

Wilder is fringe European level? Wow.
Parker and Tyson are genuinely close.

Yeah I think so. I genuinely don’t rate him as world class.