Royal Rumble boxing

[golden_labrador]

Has there ever been anything like this in boxing? Like, more than 2 fighters in the ring at the same time. Or maybe tag team boxing. But both pairs in at the same time. Like slightly safer pub fights.

I'm on my 4th black coffee of the morning and just read the Triad Combat thing, got me thinking.

I'm not a fan of the youtubers hogging all the limelight in boxing, but if it's going WWF styley, why not any of the above? Might take a bit of refereeing though

[thereverend]

Why not add a few pit bulls to the mix? Or a bear and an angry bull?

[JamesPhilips]

I've seen some MMA ones in Russia

[golden_labrador]

Why not add a few pit bulls to the mix? Or a bear and an angry bull?

now that's just ridiculous. or...

[golden_labrador]

I've seen some MMA ones in Russia

that doesn't surprise me, over there

[HomicideHenry]

Once upon a time there was Battle Royale's in the sport of boxing. Unfortunately the vast majority of those matches were essentially a racist form of entertainment as it would be black boxers, sometimes blindfolded, beating the crap out of each other and the last man standing won. There were white people who did fight in battle royals but they were a rarity.

When boxing and wrestling truly split ways following 1889, since many of the great boxing champions were also prodigious wrestlers, a lot of the gimmicks that was a part of boxing became adopted by wrestling such as the Battle Royale.

I think battle royals in boxing would not be outlawed from the sport until the 1960s as it continued to be legal in the American South while it was outlawed everywhere else, but even by then it was a very rare sight to see.

[KiwiRider]

Apparently there was a youtuber who fought an old mma guy in a boxing match.
I didn't see it, but I'm told it happened

[goose 5]

I remember reading that some great fighter-I can't remember who it was -sparred two men at the same time regularly.

[goose 5]

Gene Tunney claimed that a third rate heavyweight could defeat a gorilla and this engendered a lot of debate at the time-back in the 1930's. Tunney's thinking was that body shots would finish off the ape but a noted zoologist responded and said an ape would kill the top ten heavyweights even if they fought it simultaneously.

[bobcatbox]

Why not add a few pit bulls to the mix? Or a bear and an angry bull?

Chuck Wepner style.

Lol I think Tunney may have imagined that the ape would follow the Queensberry rules and not rip their limbs off and throw them out of the ring.

[golden_labrador]

Once upon a time there was Battle Royale's in the sport of boxing. Unfortunately the vast majority of those matches were essentially a racist form of entertainment as it would be black boxers, sometimes blindfolded, beating the crap out of each other and the last man standing won. There were white people who did fight in battle royals but they were a rarity.

When boxing and wrestling truly split ways following 1889, since many of the great boxing champions were also prodigious wrestlers, a lot of the gimmicks that was a part of boxing became adopted by wrestling such as the Battle Royale.

I think battle royals in boxing would not be outlawed from the sport until the 1960s as it continued to be legal in the American South while it was outlawed everywhere else, but even by then it was a very rare sight to see.

interesting indeed.

yeah, there's more than a bit of potential for it to get racist Squid Gamesy. having watched a Russian 6-man MMA it is a mess of an idea

[bobcatbox]

Once upon a time there was Battle Royale's in the sport of boxing. Unfortunately the vast majority of those matches were essentially a racist form of entertainment as it would be black boxers, sometimes blindfolded, beating the crap out of each other and the last man standing won. There were white people who did fight in battle royals but they were a rarity.

When boxing and wrestling truly split ways following 1889, since many of the great boxing champions were also prodigious wrestlers, a lot of the gimmicks that was a part of boxing became adopted by wrestling such as the Battle Royale.

I think battle royals in boxing would not be outlawed from the sport until the 1960s as it continued to be legal in the American South while it was outlawed everywhere else, but even by then it was a very rare sight to see.

Amazing…

Do you have a source on this? I totally believe you just interested in learning some more.

[skanksta]

Gene Tunney claimed that a third rate heavyweight could defeat a gorilla and this engendered a lot of debate at the time-back in the 1930's. Tunney's thinking was that body shots would finish off the ape but a noted zoologist responded and said an ape would kill the top ten heavyweights even if they fought it simultaneously.

A gorilla would have no chance of winning a boxing match ever.
Not allowed to tear heads or limbs off - would get DQ'd every time.

[HomicideHenry]

Once upon a time there was Battle Royale's in the sport of boxing. Unfortunately the vast majority of those matches were essentially a racist form of entertainment as it would be black boxers, sometimes blindfolded, beating the crap out of each other and the last man standing won. There were white people who did fight in battle royals but they were a rarity.

When boxing and wrestling truly split ways following 1889, since many of the great boxing champions were also prodigious wrestlers, a lot of the gimmicks that was a part of boxing became adopted by wrestling such as the Battle Royale.

I think battle royals in boxing would not be outlawed from the sport until the 1960s as it continued to be legal in the American South while it was outlawed everywhere else, but even by then it was a very rare sight to see.

Amazing…

Do you have a source on this? I totally believe you just interested in learning some more.

If you look up many of the great black boxers of the 19th century and early 20th century you'll see noted in their records (ie, Cyber Boxing Zone) that they participated in battle royals.

Men like Denver Ed Martin, Sam Langford, Jack Johnson, etc all had their start in such matches. Frederick Douglass, one of the more famous former slaves in American history, wrote about not just one-on-one prizefights between slaves but also these battle royals although he pointed out that such things were done to basically break the spirit of the black men.

There was a lot of resistance to boxing, among black Americans, because of recollections to the slave master staged bouts. Especially during the reign of Jack Johnson. There was a lot of black people who did not like him, and his personality and controversies only made things worse as far as many black people were concerned.

That's why you would see a lot of emphasis put on blacks from other blacks to follow a better path to be like George Washington Carver, Frederick Douglass, Booker T. Washington, etc--- using their mind rather than physicalities.

In the mind of many black people it wouldn't really be until Joe Louis would boxing be looked upon as something respectable to get into. Sure there was a lot of good or great black boxers, especially in the lighter weight divisions, prior to the reign of Joe Louis but he was the one who made the sport acceptable to black people.

But yeah, the battle royals in boxing has already been done. Like the Bible says nothing is new under the sun.

http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/boxing/barm.htm

^Bob Armstrong the styled King of the Battle Royal, for example.

http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/boxing/dynamite.htm

[Boxerbeetle]

Gene Tunney claimed that a third rate heavyweight could defeat a gorilla and this engendered a lot of debate at the time-back in the 1930's. Tunney's thinking was that body shots would finish off the ape but a noted zoologist responded and said an ape would kill the top ten heavyweights even if they fought it simultaneously.

A gorilla would have no chance of winning a boxing match ever.
Not allowed to tear heads or limbs off - would get DQ'd every time.

True, but if you’ve only won a fight because you’ve been decapitated by an opponent tearing off your head, I’d say that’s something of a Pyrrhic victory.

[margaret thatcher]

Gene Tunney claimed that a third rate heavyweight could defeat a gorilla and this engendered a lot of debate at the time-back in the 1930's. Tunney's thinking was that body shots would finish off the ape but a noted zoologist responded and said an ape would kill the top ten heavyweights even if they fought it simultaneously.

A gorilla would have no chance of winning a boxing match ever.
Not allowed to tear heads or limbs off - would get DQ'd every time.

True, but if you’ve only won a fight because you’ve been decapitated by an opponent tearing off your head, I’d say that’s something of a Pyrrhic victory.

bruh, you need to get a winning mindset, a W is a W however you get it

[golden_labrador]

"There was a lot of resistance to boxing, among black Americans, because of recollections to the slave master staged bouts."

I never knew about this. Majorly messed up stuff.

Also, I dread to see what watching that video will do to my future Youtube algorithm recommendations

[margaret thatcher]

this thread is gonna give triller some ideas for their next event

[HomicideHenry]

As for Mr. Tunney probably the second best light heavyweight next to Ezzard Charles, but I venture to say that adolescent chimpanzee could defeat a boxer let alone a full grown gorilla who would most break your neck with a single shot.

Many years ago I read in old Guinness record books how a male chimpanzee could clean and jerk 600 pounds with ease, and it was speculated that a gorilla could do a one-armed deadlift of 1,200 pounds with no real effort.

I'm also reminded of a story my dad told me back in the 1960s where you could still have boxing matches with kangaroos and wrestling matches with bears at carnivals, and there was a man my dad knew who tried multiple times to beat an orangutan or chimpanzee in a boxing match and failed every time.

The punch line to the story is that the man eventually asked the owner of the orangutan or chimpanzee how to beat the animal and the proprietor said, "If you don't punch it it won't punch you."

[DrDuke]

this thread is gonna give triller some ideas for their next event

Tyson Fury vs Tank Abbott?

Francis Ngannou vs Geoge Foreman?

Chris Lovejoy vs Royce Gracie?

[HomicideHenry]

"There was a lot of resistance to boxing, among black Americans, because of recollections to the slave master staged bouts."

I never knew about this. Majorly messed up stuff.

Also, I dread to see what watching that video will do to my future Youtube algorithm recommendations

It's a rather unfortunate thing that occurred in the history of this sport but it's something that cannot be ignored or forgotten about.

The first American boxing champion of note was Tom Mulineaux "The Virginia Slave," "The Black Ajax," who got his start competing against other slaves from different plantations and most likely competed in battle royals too.

It's an apocryphal story and impossible to prove or disprove but it has been said that Mulineaux not only met George Washington but was given a few pointers from the future president of the United States as Washington was not only the champion wrestler of Virginia he was also the boxing champion of Virginia.

Anyways, I can see the concept returning especially in this day and age of freak show bouts, considering team MMA bouts are already taking place in different parts of the world like Russia.

[golden_labrador]

"There was a lot of resistance to boxing, among black Americans, because of recollections to the slave master staged bouts."

I never knew about this. Majorly messed up stuff.

Also, I dread to see what watching that video will do to my future Youtube algorithm recommendations

It's a rather unfortunate thing that occurred in the history of this sport but it's something that cannot be ignored or forgotten about.

The first American boxing champion of note was Tom Mulineaux "The Virginia Slave," "The Black Ajax," who got his start competing against other slaves from different plantations and most likely competed in battle royals too.

It's an apocryphal story and impossible to prove or disprove but it has been said that Mulineaux not only met George Washington but was given a few pointers from the future president of the United States as Washington was not only the champion wrestler of Virginia he was also the boxing champion of Virginia.

Anyways, I can see the concept returning especially in this day and age of freak show bouts, considering team MMA bouts are already taking place in different parts of the world like Russia.

the gladiators spectacle is still with us in various guises

[mcrow24]

mass combat is extremely dangerous. Double or triple teams, chances of getting blindsided...etc.

Seems like a terrible idea from a safety point of view.

[JamesPhilips]

Gene Tunney claimed that a third rate heavyweight could defeat a gorilla and this engendered a lot of debate at the time-back in the 1930's. Tunney's thinking was that body shots would finish off the ape but a noted zoologist responded and said an ape would kill the top ten heavyweights even if they fought it simultaneously.

A gorilla would have no chance of winning a boxing match ever.
Not allowed to tear heads or limbs off - would get DQ'd every time.

I don’t agree. Koko the gorilla had an estimated IQ of 85 so you could definitely train him to box rather than years limbs off. My belief is that such a trained gorilla would essentially use roundhouse punches to batter the human into submission. They couldn’t take the power.

[golden_labrador]

Gene Tunney claimed that a third rate heavyweight could defeat a gorilla and this engendered a lot of debate at the time-back in the 1930's. Tunney's thinking was that body shots would finish off the ape but a noted zoologist responded and said an ape would kill the top ten heavyweights even if they fought it simultaneously.

A gorilla would have no chance of winning a boxing match ever.
Not allowed to tear heads or limbs off - would get DQ'd every time.

I don’t agree. Koko the gorilla had an estimated IQ of 85 so you could definitely train him to box rather than years limbs off. My belief is that such a trained gorilla would essentially use roundhouse punches to batter the human into submission. They couldn’t take the power.

could grease the palms of the gloves up so they wouldn't be able to get a good grip of the head or limbs.

(Triller reading this and taking notes)