Who is your p4p king?

brilo33
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USMCer wrote: 04 Dec 2021, 21:24 Canelo Alvarez
Terence Crawford
Olek Usyk
Naoya Inoue*
Tyson Fury

but the shame there is Ryan Burnett got injured fighting Donaire , and i had ryan winning
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Doesn’t matter what anyone says here.

Some noob can pop up and be like “my p4p king is Magic babatunde”. No of that means crap.

Only p4p king right now is Canelo!!!!! That’s it.
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TonyJ wrote: 04 Dec 2021, 23:38 Doesn’t matter what anyone says here.

Some noob can pop up and be like “my p4p king is Magic babatunde”. No of that means crap.

Only p4p king right now is Canelo!!!!! That’s it.
a front runner for sure. But I guess though his wins over GGG is disputed and he has the mexican beef situation. plus 168 was regarded as fairly weak division. Usyk road warriored a good cruiser div, has no disputed victories, no failed tests, and went undisputed then won 3 heavyweight belts... Canelo is my number 1, usyk my number 2. But given the above points, i dont think its definitive.
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570991 wrote: 11 Nov 2021, 10:32 For me it's easily Usyk.

-Fought the best possible opponents he could in cruiserweight on their home turf and schooled them , Than he schooled Anthony Joshua (Joshua had probably the best resume in HW division and Usyk made an easy work of him)

-Usyk was not catched for doping.

-Was probably the first Cruiserweight champion who schooled a heavyweight champion.

-Had zero "robbery wins"

-One of the most skilled boxers in recents years with BEAST cardio - HE IS NOT ONE TRICK PONY LIKE GRABOMIR CLINSCHKO OR DEONTAY WILDER


USYK FOR ME!!!


Canelo number 2
Crawford number 3
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brilo33
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gregregegg wrote: 04 Dec 2021, 23:44
TonyJ wrote: 04 Dec 2021, 23:38 Doesn’t matter what anyone says here.

Some noob can pop up and be like “my p4p king is Magic babatunde”. No of that means crap.

Only p4p king right now is Canelo!!!!! That’s it.
a front runner for sure. But I guess though his wins over GGG is disputed and he has the mexican beef situation. plus 168 was regarded as fairly weak division. Usyk road warriored a good cruiser div, has no disputed victories, no failed tests, and went undisputed then won 3 heavyweight belts... Canelo is my number 1, usyk my number 2. But given the above points, i dont think its definitive.
fury went to germany and america
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brilo33 wrote: 05 Dec 2021, 00:22
gregregegg wrote: 04 Dec 2021, 23:44
TonyJ wrote: 04 Dec 2021, 23:38 Doesn’t matter what anyone says here.

Some noob can pop up and be like “my p4p king is Magic babatunde”. No of that means crap.

Only p4p king right now is Canelo!!!!! That’s it.
a front runner for sure. But I guess though his wins over GGG is disputed and he has the mexican beef situation. plus 168 was regarded as fairly weak division. Usyk road warriored a good cruiser div, has no disputed victories, no failed tests, and went undisputed then won 3 heavyweight belts... Canelo is my number 1, usyk my number 2. But given the above points, i dont think its definitive.
fury went to germany and america
true, dont think an old klit, chisora and raw fairly questionable wilder is a p4p resume though. eye test he is a special tallent though, just needs to add some names.
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gregregegg wrote: 05 Dec 2021, 00:36
brilo33 wrote: 05 Dec 2021, 00:22
gregregegg wrote: 04 Dec 2021, 23:44

a front runner for sure. But I guess though his wins over GGG is disputed and he has the mexican beef situation. plus 168 was regarded as fairly weak division. Usyk road warriored a good cruiser div, has no disputed victories, no failed tests, and went undisputed then won 3 heavyweight belts... Canelo is my number 1, usyk my number 2. But given the above points, i dont think its definitive.
fury went to germany and america
true, dont think an old klit, chisora and raw fairly questionable wilder is a p4p resume though. eye test he is a special tallent though, just needs to add some names.
but why are you giving usky credit them cause he beat bellew
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usyk beating aj is right up there with fury beating wilder , usyk only needed one shot at doing it too and was significantly smaller than his opponent, while fury wasnt (since we are talkng p4p)

then add in being undisputed cruiser champ, and for me usyk defo rates over fury p4p

his road warrior record is quite remarkable btw, been to so many places to fight dudes in their own country

josh, bellew, chis uk.........chis btw is still a top 3 opponent for fury
gass russia
briedis latvia
huck germany
glowacki in poland
hunter (and mchunu) usa

hasnt fought in ukraine in 6 years
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Re: Who is your p4p king?

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gregregegg wrote: 04 Dec 2021, 23:44
TonyJ wrote: 04 Dec 2021, 23:38 Doesn’t matter what anyone says here.

Some noob can pop up and be like “my p4p king is Magic babatunde”. No of that means crap.

Only p4p king right now is Canelo!!!!! That’s it.
a front runner for sure. But I guess though his wins over GGG is disputed and he has the mexican beef situation. plus 168 was regarded as fairly weak division. Usyk road warriored a good cruiser div, has no disputed victories, no failed tests, and went undisputed then won 3 heavyweight belts... Canelo is my number 1, usyk my number 2. But given the above points, i dont think its definitive.
It is definitive go luck at the actual credible experts lists.
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Re: Who is your p4p king?

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gregregegg wrote: 04 Dec 2021, 15:00
dan28uk wrote: 04 Dec 2021, 13:38 I can’t put usyk at number 1 as he’s not the number one ranked heavyweight so why would I put him at p4p number 1 if he beat fury he definitely is , Ive put canelo at 1 even though I thought he lost the first ggg fight 2nd could of gone either way but it is what it is Crawfords Gota be top 3


So if canelo beats macula his pound for pound rating will drop because he wont be the top cruiser weight? that seems weird.

Clearly canelo isn’t a cruiserweight and I do think usyk is up there with p4p greats at the moment but I also think it’s weird if you think usyk could be p4p number 1 but not heavy weight number 1
He’s not a cruiser any more he’s a heavyweight
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