What do pro fighters do for living?
What do pro fighters do for living?
Obviously, not every pro fighter has big paycheck for fights and majority of them have full time job. What are most common jobs amongst pro boxers ? I personally know only amateur boxers, trainer in gym, two cops and one military
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HomicideHenry
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Re: What do pro fighters do for living?
The vast majority of people in boxing here in America, from my perspective, have the backing of some sort of sponsor because small time promotions who strictly do low-level boxing simply doesn't exist anymore.
Prior to the over regulation of boxing with the inclusion of federal IDs, etc--- every state in the Union had at least one small level boxing promotion, and most people in the boxing business were first tiersmen, second tiersmen and journeymen. The first three levels of the pros.
I don't know that many people who I'd legitimately class as a tiersman or journeyman today in the United States of America, because it seems like the entire sport has shifted its focus to trialhorse, gate keeper, and contender level competitors.
These amateurs turning pro today basically are automatically trialhorse or gatekeeper level. The skeleton of the business (tiersmen and journeymen) basically do not exist anymore. It died out for the most part a decade ago.
These people being styled as journeymen today are trialhorses in ability and quality. That's just my two cents. I'm sure many will disagree with me on it but what else is new. But if they are going to disagree with me find me more than five promotions in the entire United States where strictly low level professional boxing matches are staged. Good luck.
Before all the over regulation occurred in this sport you had boxers from every walk of life working virtually any job you can think of. Hell, Greg Haugen worked in a factory throughout his entire pro career even when he was champion.
Prior to the over regulation of boxing with the inclusion of federal IDs, etc--- every state in the Union had at least one small level boxing promotion, and most people in the boxing business were first tiersmen, second tiersmen and journeymen. The first three levels of the pros.
I don't know that many people who I'd legitimately class as a tiersman or journeyman today in the United States of America, because it seems like the entire sport has shifted its focus to trialhorse, gate keeper, and contender level competitors.
These amateurs turning pro today basically are automatically trialhorse or gatekeeper level. The skeleton of the business (tiersmen and journeymen) basically do not exist anymore. It died out for the most part a decade ago.
These people being styled as journeymen today are trialhorses in ability and quality. That's just my two cents. I'm sure many will disagree with me on it but what else is new. But if they are going to disagree with me find me more than five promotions in the entire United States where strictly low level professional boxing matches are staged. Good luck.
Before all the over regulation occurred in this sport you had boxers from every walk of life working virtually any job you can think of. Hell, Greg Haugen worked in a factory throughout his entire pro career even when he was champion.
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Didn't a school teacher beat Manny Pac? 
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margaret thatcher
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Re: What do pro fighters do for living?
keep in mind there are thousands of american pro boxers, way more than any other country. i doubt most of them have much backing. most fights that take place in the usa we never see and hardly hear anything about. someone as bad as andrew hartley still found enough action to get 30 fightsHomicideHenry wrote: ↑03 Dec 2021, 13:49 The vast majority of people in boxing here in America, from my perspective, have the backing of some sort of sponsor because small time promotions who strictly do low-level boxing simply doesn't exist anymore.
Prior to the over regulation of boxing with the inclusion of federal IDs, etc--- every state in the Union had at least one small level boxing promotion, and most people in the boxing business were first tiersmen, second tiersmen and journeymen. The first three levels of the pros.
I don't know that many people who I'd legitimately class as a tiersman or journeyman today in the United States of America, because it seems like the entire sport has shifted its focus to trialhorse, gate keeper, and contender level competitors.
These amateurs turning pro today basically are automatically trialhorse or gatekeeper level. The skeleton of the business (tiersmen and journeymen) basically do not exist anymore. It died out for the most part a decade ago.
These people being styled as journeymen today are trialhorses in ability and quality. That's just my two cents. I'm sure many will disagree with me on it but what else is new. But if they are going to disagree with me find me more than five promotions in the entire United States where strictly low level professional boxing matches are staged. Good luck.
Before all the over regulation occurred in this sport you had boxers from every walk of life working virtually any job you can think of. Hell, Greg Haugen worked in a factory throughout his entire pro career even when he was champion.
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HomicideHenry
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Re: What do pro fighters do for living?
I'm not saying mismatches don't happen, where "opponents for hire" doesn't exist. I'm talking about small time promotions where the absolute bottom level of boxing still occurs.
I can't think of more than one or two promotions in the entire United States that's strictly does bottom level boxing. When Stacy Goodson closed his doors he effectively was the last of the full-time low level boxing promoters in the United States.
And what I mean by low level boxing I'm talking about 0-0-0 vs 1-5-0, 5-4-0 vs 0-10-0, etc type of matches on a card with maybe one decent guy in the main event. It just doesn't happen anymore. Maybe in West Virginia but that's about it.
I can't think of more than one or two promotions in the entire United States that's strictly does bottom level boxing. When Stacy Goodson closed his doors he effectively was the last of the full-time low level boxing promoters in the United States.
And what I mean by low level boxing I'm talking about 0-0-0 vs 1-5-0, 5-4-0 vs 0-10-0, etc type of matches on a card with maybe one decent guy in the main event. It just doesn't happen anymore. Maybe in West Virginia but that's about it.
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i suppose the good young olympians have been pro from day 1 , but as its a very much a working class sport , usually building trades or security, talking about that i remember there was a prominsing young boxer coming up i think he was a carpit fitter from manchester got hurt i think
Re: What do pro fighters do for living?
Well, there's plenty of cards that are nothing but 3-0 guys fighting a debutant or TBA.HomicideHenry wrote: ↑03 Dec 2021, 23:35 I'm not saying mismatches don't happen, where "opponents for hire" doesn't exist. I'm talking about small time promotions where the absolute bottom level of boxing still occurs.
I can't think of more than one or two promotions in the entire United States that's strictly does bottom level boxing. When Stacy Goodson closed his doors he effectively was the last of the full-time low level boxing promoters in the United States.
And what I mean by low level boxing I'm talking about 0-0-0 vs 1-5-0, 5-4-0 vs 0-10-0, etc type of matches on a card with maybe one decent guy in the main event. It just doesn't happen anymore. Maybe in West Virginia but that's about it.
December 17, Mesquite Arena
promoter: Christian Montes (The Boxing Showcase)
December 10, Glendale Civic Center
promoter: Paul Pelletier (OG Boxing)
December 10, Quiet Cannon Country Club
promoter: Tom Loeffler
December 10, Performance Arts Center
promoter: Eric McGuire (A-Square Fight Promotions Llc.)
Caribe Royale Orlando
promoter: Jimmy Burchfield (CES Boxing)
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HomicideHenry
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Re: What do pro fighters do for living?
That's close I suppose but I guarantee those guys have amateur records too. But I have yet to see a promotion that has strictly losing record fighters competing against other losing record fighters, because that used to be quite common in the United States.
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Here in the UK I expect it to be the normal taxi driver, labourer, security type jobs. The type of casual low skilled/low qualification jobs open to people who didn't put much emphasis on education growing up.
Those from the Travelling community will typically do gardening, driveways, scrap .. roofing
Those from the Travelling community will typically do gardening, driveways, scrap .. roofing
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Jeff_lacy_ko
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Re: What do pro fighters do for living?
Pro mma fighter i know is a nurse (although hes semi retired now)
Pro boxer i know was a bouncer/ security guard
Pro boxer i know was a bouncer/ security guard
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peter barlow
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Re: What do pro fighters do for living?
Personal training, can be decent money in it and use the knowledge they already have
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Boxing Prospect
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Re: What do pro fighters do for living?
Teiru Kinoshita worked at the Portopia Hotel, the same venue that he faced Zolani Tete at... Talk about home advantage!
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H8Usernames
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Re: What do pro fighters do for living?
A slightly biggoted opinion. Not everyone is born into circumstances where educating yourself is easy, practical or possible. Yet some of these people regardless of their lack of education end up outperforming people like you.tonyevs wrote: ↑05 Dec 2021, 04:04 Here in the UK I expect it to be the normal taxi driver, labourer, security type jobs. The type of casual low skilled/low qualification jobs open to people who didn't put much emphasis on education growing up.
Those from the Travelling community will typically do gardening, driveways, scrap .. roofing
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AngryGoon38
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Re: What do pro fighters do for living?
I redd one time that "Duane Bobick" worked in an automotive assembly factory facility.HomicideHenry wrote: ↑03 Dec 2021, 13:49 The vast majority of people in boxing here in America, from my perspective, have the backing of some sort of sponsor because small time promotions who strictly do low-level boxing simply doesn't exist anymore.
Prior to the over regulation of boxing with the inclusion of federal IDs, etc--- every state in the Union had at least one small level boxing promotion, and most people in the boxing business were first tiersmen, second tiersmen and journeymen. The first three levels of the pros.
I don't know that many people who I'd legitimately class as a tiersman or journeyman today in the United States of America, because it seems like the entire sport has shifted its focus to trialhorse, gate keeper, and contender level competitors.
These amateurs turning pro today basically are automatically trialhorse or gatekeeper level. The skeleton of the business (tiersmen and journeymen) basically do not exist anymore. It died out for the most part a decade ago.
These people being styled as journeymen today are trialhorses in ability and quality. That's just my two cents. I'm sure many will disagree with me on it but what else is new. But if they are going to disagree with me find me more than five promotions in the entire United States where strictly low level professional boxing matches are staged. Good luck.
Before all the over regulation occurred in this sport you had boxers from every walk of life working virtually any job you can think of. Hell, Greg Haugen worked in a factory throughout his entire pro career even when he was champion.
Apparently, he got severely injured while working in there as well. Severed finger,or Torn wrist tendon..?