Peter Fury and John Fury
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mickey1975
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Re: Peter Fury and John Fury
They are now. Extremely close.
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HomicideHenry
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Re: Peter Fury and John Fury
https://metro.co.uk/2017/04/24/tyson-fu ... r-6594784/
Although it must be noted that the original date for Parker-Fury was postponed cus Hughie got injured and Tyson offered to be the replacement, to come out of retirement, and fight for the WBO strap.
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My Uncle ended up being the executor of the will of an elderly relative, who never had children, she was in her late 80's and as she had fallen out with the rest of the family, it was going to fall to him. He hadn't seen her for donkeys years, but suddenly she seemed to be invited to every family gathering there was, no doubt because my Uncle wanted to make sure she didn't change the will.
For some reason, she took a shine to my cousin, his son, and he was pretty kind to her, but not in some sort of creepy way, she was an old lady, and he used to talk to her when she came over.
My uncle started to worry she might leave him something in the will, and started getting quite agitated, and I remember one time she was out, he looked at my cousin and blurted out 'you've got to be in it to win it!' in a not too disguised reference to the will. My cousin was pretty digusted by it, and couldn't believe he'd said it.
In the end, My uncle died following a heart valve replacement failure, a few years later, she went on to live to 94, outliving him by 6 or 7 years, and my cousin was left in charge as the next in line in the family, and he got every last penny.
My cousin somehow managed to blow through all 450 grand in around 18 months with absolutely bollock-all top show for it.
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maverick23
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Re: Peter Fury and John Fury
Yeah - I’m sure that was a serious offer from Tyson.HomicideHenry wrote: ↑08 Dec 2021, 10:11https://metro.co.uk/2017/04/24/tyson-fu ... r-6594784/
Although it must be noted that the original date for Parker-Fury was postponed cus Hughie got injured and Tyson offered to be the replacement, to come out of retirement, and fight for the WBO strap.
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It always baffles me how people can be so financially stupid. I know it happens but it takes some doing to burn the though £450k with nothing left at the end in 18 months. He probably could have bought a nice house (depending on where he lived), never had a mortgage and had a good chunk left over.jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑08 Dec 2021, 13:01My Uncle ended up being the executor of the will of an elderly relative, who never had children, she was in her late 80's and as she had fallen out with the rest of the family, it was going to fall to him. He hadn't seen her for donkeys years, but suddenly she seemed to be invited to every family gathering there was, no doubt because my Uncle wanted to make sure she didn't change the will.
For some reason, she took a shine to my cousin, his son, and he was pretty kind to her, but not in some sort of creepy way, she was an old lady, and he used to talk to her when she came over.
My uncle started to worry she might leave him something in the will, and started getting quite agitated, and I remember one time she was out, he looked at my cousin and blurted out 'you've got to be in it to win it!' in a not too disguised reference to the will. My cousin was pretty digusted by it, and couldn't believe he'd said it.
In the end, My uncle died following a heart valve replacement failure, a few years later, she went on to live to 94, outliving him by 6 or 7 years, and my cousin was left in charge as the next in line in the family, and he got every last penny.
My cousin somehow managed to blow through all 450 grand in around 18 months with absolutely bollock-all top show for it.
I listened to something with Micah Richards yesterday and he said he had 3 weeks booked in LA when he was younger but had to go home after 2 weeks because he’d blown £150k. £35k on a bottle of bubbles (granted it was probably a methuselah of Cristal).
It worries me seeing Devin Haney being so flash with his money. There’s a video with his jeweller getting a new watch and 2 new chains after his fight with Diaz - $0.5m.
Re: Peter Fury and John Fury
Thats a serious amount of cash to blow....he must have some good stories i betjamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑08 Dec 2021, 13:01My Uncle ended up being the executor of the will of an elderly relative, who never had children, she was in her late 80's and as she had fallen out with the rest of the family, it was going to fall to him. He hadn't seen her for donkeys years, but suddenly she seemed to be invited to every family gathering there was, no doubt because my Uncle wanted to make sure she didn't change the will.
For some reason, she took a shine to my cousin, his son, and he was pretty kind to her, but not in some sort of creepy way, she was an old lady, and he used to talk to her when she came over.
My uncle started to worry she might leave him something in the will, and started getting quite agitated, and I remember one time she was out, he looked at my cousin and blurted out 'you've got to be in it to win it!' in a not too disguised reference to the will. My cousin was pretty digusted by it, and couldn't believe he'd said it.
In the end, My uncle died following a heart valve replacement failure, a few years later, she went on to live to 94, outliving him by 6 or 7 years, and my cousin was left in charge as the next in line in the family, and he got every last penny.
My cousin somehow managed to blow through all 450 grand in around 18 months with absolutely bollock-all top show for it.
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JamesPhilips
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Re: Peter Fury and John Fury
Fookin ell what a story. Families turn on each other for a few thousand too. I’ve had it. It leaves such a bad taste in your mouth. It’s like the expression people will sell their grandmother for a few grand. It’s truejamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑08 Dec 2021, 13:01My Uncle ended up being the executor of the will of an elderly relative, who never had children, she was in her late 80's and as she had fallen out with the rest of the family, it was going to fall to him. He hadn't seen her for donkeys years, but suddenly she seemed to be invited to every family gathering there was, no doubt because my Uncle wanted to make sure she didn't change the will.
For some reason, she took a shine to my cousin, his son, and he was pretty kind to her, but not in some sort of creepy way, she was an old lady, and he used to talk to her when she came over.
My uncle started to worry she might leave him something in the will, and started getting quite agitated, and I remember one time she was out, he looked at my cousin and blurted out 'you've got to be in it to win it!' in a not too disguised reference to the will. My cousin was pretty digusted by it, and couldn't believe he'd said it.
In the end, My uncle died following a heart valve replacement failure, a few years later, she went on to live to 94, outliving him by 6 or 7 years, and my cousin was left in charge as the next in line in the family, and he got every last penny.
My cousin somehow managed to blow through all 450 grand in around 18 months with absolutely bollock-all top show for it.
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mickey1975
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Re: Peter Fury and John Fury
My dad is an extremely straightforward person. I have two half siblings. His wife inherited a lot of money. That's not mine or my brothers. They'll get a lot more than us, it's all broken down in his will, I don't care, she wasn't my granny. I'd rather have him here anyway.
Re: Peter Fury and John Fury
who gives a toss
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jamesmcdonnell
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Truth is, I've no idea.TopGun wrote: ↑08 Dec 2021, 13:35Thats a serious amount of cash to blow....he must have some good stories i betjamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑08 Dec 2021, 13:01My Uncle ended up being the executor of the will of an elderly relative, who never had children, she was in her late 80's and as she had fallen out with the rest of the family, it was going to fall to him. He hadn't seen her for donkeys years, but suddenly she seemed to be invited to every family gathering there was, no doubt because my Uncle wanted to make sure she didn't change the will.
For some reason, she took a shine to my cousin, his son, and he was pretty kind to her, but not in some sort of creepy way, she was an old lady, and he used to talk to her when she came over.
My uncle started to worry she might leave him something in the will, and started getting quite agitated, and I remember one time she was out, he looked at my cousin and blurted out 'you've got to be in it to win it!' in a not too disguised reference to the will. My cousin was pretty digusted by it, and couldn't believe he'd said it.
In the end, My uncle died following a heart valve replacement failure, a few years later, she went on to live to 94, outliving him by 6 or 7 years, and my cousin was left in charge as the next in line in the family, and he got every last penny.
My cousin somehow managed to blow through all 450 grand in around 18 months with absolutely bollock-all top show for it.![]()
I know he was doing a lot of coke - and he's been involved with some very shady people in the past, he was in with a bunch of big time drug smugglers at one point, who were giving him big weights of coke on tick. He was plowing through it like nobody's business, and one night, he went out on the island he lived on in the thames, and buried it all. He never found it again, and then had to go back and explain to them he'd lost all their coke. He was working off the debt for the next 2 years.
He's a reckless pudendum, always was, I suspect he got into a business venture with someone, and got knocked.
Not long after he came into the money, he gave me a loan of 500 quid that I never asked for, he said to pay me back whenever I had the cash.
I'd been hard up as times had been tough at work, - not too long after, I had a bike accident, the frame snapped, and I smashed my teeth in and busted my mouth up really bad, as well as getting a huge black eye, and breaking a couple of fingers.
As a result I got 10,000 USD off the bike company by sending them an email to their VP of sales, who to his credit, had the money in my account within 10 days of me complaining.
A few weeks later, my cousin was off his nut screaming about how he wanted his money - so he obviously was short of cash.
Thing is, he's stony broke now, he's only able to survive as he lives with his girlfriend, and does odd jobs here and there fixing things for people. To think what he could have done with that money, it's tragic.
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JamesPhilips
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Re: Peter Fury and John Fury
Wowjamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑08 Dec 2021, 14:40Truth is, I've no idea.TopGun wrote: ↑08 Dec 2021, 13:35Thats a serious amount of cash to blow....he must have some good stories i betjamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑08 Dec 2021, 13:01
My Uncle ended up being the executor of the will of an elderly relative, who never had children, she was in her late 80's and as she had fallen out with the rest of the family, it was going to fall to him. He hadn't seen her for donkeys years, but suddenly she seemed to be invited to every family gathering there was, no doubt because my Uncle wanted to make sure she didn't change the will.
For some reason, she took a shine to my cousin, his son, and he was pretty kind to her, but not in some sort of creepy way, she was an old lady, and he used to talk to her when she came over.
My uncle started to worry she might leave him something in the will, and started getting quite agitated, and I remember one time she was out, he looked at my cousin and blurted out 'you've got to be in it to win it!' in a not too disguised reference to the will. My cousin was pretty digusted by it, and couldn't believe he'd said it.
In the end, My uncle died following a heart valve replacement failure, a few years later, she went on to live to 94, outliving him by 6 or 7 years, and my cousin was left in charge as the next in line in the family, and he got every last penny.
My cousin somehow managed to blow through all 450 grand in around 18 months with absolutely bollock-all top show for it.![]()
I know he was doing a lot of coke - and he's been involved with some very shady people in the past, he was in with a bunch of big time drug smugglers at one point, who were giving him big weights of coke on tick. He was plowing through it like nobody's business, and one night, he went out on the island he lived on in the thames, and buried it all. He never found it again, and then had to go back and explain to them he'd lost all their coke. He was working off the debt for the next 2 years.
He's a reckless pudendum, always was, I suspect he got into a business venture with someone, and got knocked.
Not long after he came into the money, he gave me a loan of 500 quid that I never asked for, he said to pay me back whenever I had the cash.
I'd been hard up as times had been tough at work, - not too long after, I had a bike accident, the frame snapped, and I smashed my teeth in and busted my mouth up really bad, as well as getting a huge black eye, and breaking a couple of fingers.
As a result I got 10,000 USD off the bike company by sending them an email to their VP of sales, who to his credit, had the money in my account within 10 days of me complaining.
A few weeks later, my cousin was off his nut screaming about how he wanted his money - so he obviously was short of cash.
Thing is, he's stony broke now, he's only able to survive as he lives with his girlfriend, and does odd jobs here and there fixing things for people. To think what he could have done with that money, it's tragic.
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high tower 1
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Re: Peter Fury and John Fury
I feel for the old aunt ! A life time of work for all that money to go fund a coke dealers g wagon or a pair of fake tits for his mrsjamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑08 Dec 2021, 14:40Truth is, I've no idea.TopGun wrote: ↑08 Dec 2021, 13:35Thats a serious amount of cash to blow....he must have some good stories i betjamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑08 Dec 2021, 13:01
My Uncle ended up being the executor of the will of an elderly relative, who never had children, she was in her late 80's and as she had fallen out with the rest of the family, it was going to fall to him. He hadn't seen her for donkeys years, but suddenly she seemed to be invited to every family gathering there was, no doubt because my Uncle wanted to make sure she didn't change the will.
For some reason, she took a shine to my cousin, his son, and he was pretty kind to her, but not in some sort of creepy way, she was an old lady, and he used to talk to her when she came over.
My uncle started to worry she might leave him something in the will, and started getting quite agitated, and I remember one time she was out, he looked at my cousin and blurted out 'you've got to be in it to win it!' in a not too disguised reference to the will. My cousin was pretty digusted by it, and couldn't believe he'd said it.
In the end, My uncle died following a heart valve replacement failure, a few years later, she went on to live to 94, outliving him by 6 or 7 years, and my cousin was left in charge as the next in line in the family, and he got every last penny.
My cousin somehow managed to blow through all 450 grand in around 18 months with absolutely bollock-all top show for it.![]()
I know he was doing a lot of coke - and he's been involved with some very shady people in the past, he was in with a bunch of big time drug smugglers at one point, who were giving him big weights of coke on tick. He was plowing through it like nobody's business, and one night, he went out on the island he lived on in the thames, and buried it all. He never found it again, and then had to go back and explain to them he'd lost all their coke. He was working off the debt for the next 2 years.
He's a reckless pudendum, always was, I suspect he got into a business venture with someone, and got knocked.
Not long after he came into the money, he gave me a loan of 500 quid that I never asked for, he said to pay me back whenever I had the cash.
I'd been hard up as times had been tough at work, - not too long after, I had a bike accident, the frame snapped, and I smashed my teeth in and busted my mouth up really bad, as well as getting a huge black eye, and breaking a couple of fingers.
As a result I got 10,000 USD off the bike company by sending them an email to their VP of sales, who to his credit, had the money in my account within 10 days of me complaining.
A few weeks later, my cousin was off his nut screaming about how he wanted his money - so he obviously was short of cash.
Thing is, he's stony broke now, he's only able to survive as he lives with his girlfriend, and does odd jobs here and there fixing things for people. To think what he could have done with that money, it's tragic.
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Sounds the sort who planned to cosy up to your aunt to get what he can all along.
Seems like a wrongun
Seems like a wrongun
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sounds like some script for a filmjamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑08 Dec 2021, 13:01My Uncle ended up being the executor of the will of an elderly relative, who never had children, she was in her late 80's and as she had fallen out with the rest of the family, it was going to fall to him. He hadn't seen her for donkeys years, but suddenly she seemed to be invited to every family gathering there was, no doubt because my Uncle wanted to make sure she didn't change the will.
For some reason, she took a shine to my cousin, his son, and he was pretty kind to her, but not in some sort of creepy way, she was an old lady, and he used to talk to her when she came over.
My uncle started to worry she might leave him something in the will, and started getting quite agitated, and I remember one time she was out, he looked at my cousin and blurted out 'you've got to be in it to win it!' in a not too disguised reference to the will. My cousin was pretty digusted by it, and couldn't believe he'd said it.
In the end, My uncle died following a heart valve replacement failure, a few years later, she went on to live to 94, outliving him by 6 or 7 years, and my cousin was left in charge as the next in line in the family, and he got every last penny.
My cousin somehow managed to blow through all 450 grand in around 18 months with absolutely bollock-all top show for it.
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To be fair, my cousin isn't the conniving sort - he's far too impetuous and mercurial for that, you never know what he's going to do next.
His life would make a great film, he's been in some quite remarkable scrapes, including working as a spotter for the SAS, which is pretty mental as his family are Northern Ireland Catholics.
I've been at a party with him before, and he's suddenly jumped up out of his seat, and pulled someones trousers and underwear down to their ankles, for no discernable reason.
He also once crushed my trachea after asking me to get him in a headlock when we were playfighting.
He's a proper madman, but conniving, no.
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jimmystone
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Re: Peter Fury and John Fury
IS your cousin called Walter by any chance? That job description makes no sense in isolation unless you mean he was a civilian tout?
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I worked within a CMHT a couple years back. We had a person referred with depression.TopGun wrote: ↑08 Dec 2021, 13:35Thats a serious amount of cash to blow....he must have some good stories i betjamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑08 Dec 2021, 13:01My Uncle ended up being the executor of the will of an elderly relative, who never had children, she was in her late 80's and as she had fallen out with the rest of the family, it was going to fall to him. He hadn't seen her for donkeys years, but suddenly she seemed to be invited to every family gathering there was, no doubt because my Uncle wanted to make sure she didn't change the will.
For some reason, she took a shine to my cousin, his son, and he was pretty kind to her, but not in some sort of creepy way, she was an old lady, and he used to talk to her when she came over.
My uncle started to worry she might leave him something in the will, and started getting quite agitated, and I remember one time she was out, he looked at my cousin and blurted out 'you've got to be in it to win it!' in a not too disguised reference to the will. My cousin was pretty digusted by it, and couldn't believe he'd said it.
In the end, My uncle died following a heart valve replacement failure, a few years later, she went on to live to 94, outliving him by 6 or 7 years, and my cousin was left in charge as the next in line in the family, and he got every last penny.
My cousin somehow managed to blow through all 450 grand in around 18 months with absolutely bollock-all top show for it.![]()
He had had some inheritance, remortgaged his family home he had been left earlier, and maxed out every credit card and HP type type service youd ever heard of; plus some we hadnt .. he had blown something like £200k, and run up debts of around the same amount in about an 18mths period.
He`d literally spent his time sofa surfing from one party to the next .. as his money ran out so did his mates.
When we picked him up he had come to the realisation the only thing he owned was a huge debt and a bigger bad name/reputation in the trade he previously worked - which meant the family house he had big plans to renovate was repossessed, his previous mates avoided him, and he found himself in a dingy bed sit with other dossers.
He didnt have any good stories to tell; pretty much every one was of how his mates had milked him. He took to going to bridges in the Newport area and threatening to jump off them. I think he preferred to be on section to St Cadocs than the sh1t house bedsits they put him in; last I heard he actually jumped, or more likely accidentally fell off one of the bridges and whilst not dying - injured himself enough to make an already shit situation even worse for himself.
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high tower 1
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Re: Peter Fury and John Fury
Reading threads like this makes me glad I grew up in a stingey home.
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In the words of Biggie Smalls: mo(re) money, mo problems.
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Exactly nobody really knows but the people involved. Nice to see that for a change people are only speculating instead of making a judgement, which is the complete opposite of what i see usually on social media. It amazes me how many times i have heard or read that 'so and so is a nice/nasty guy' and they 'should/shouldnt have done this or that' when they havent even met or spoken to that person, let alone are in the the loop about the situation. Guess its smart to never make a judgement on things u dont see or hear of first hand.mickey1975 wrote: ↑07 Dec 2021, 20:02I don't know. Nobody does so I doubt Henry does.
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I think Peter and John , having a fall out , the writing was on the wall when John got out of prison ,, Peter done a great job with him then it was obvious , John just thought Peter was holding the reins while he done his stint ,, Both men from the same cloth , both will want to be boss , one has the talent for actually training fighters , the other only seems to have the talent for shouting and bullying ,, it was inevitable , when you were talking world champ and millions of pounds .
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brothers fight all the time, i know i have and with my brothers , there was times when we would be having 3 way straighteners each other , but as a family i hope they make up , i think as long as no one has shagged the others wife which they havent then there aint nothing that can be made up, sorted as brothers i dont care unless they were never close any way then thats different
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that is always going to be tough ,both done serious time ,both have sons jealousy paranoia does peoples minds while inside ego on top, its hard tyson had to chose his old man, john would problay be back inside if he never had a positive like boxing about, tho there was a good video with john fury talking about tyson v price fighting in the amateurs ,so he has always been around,haha i feel like a gosping granny, its just i hate seeing brothers falling outconeye wrote: ↑17 Dec 2021, 20:00 I think Peter and John , having a fall out , the writing was on the wall when John got out of prison ,, Peter done a great job with him then it was obvious , John just thought Peter was holding the reins while he done his stint ,, Both men from the same cloth , both will want to be boss , one has the talent for actually training fighters , the other only seems to have the talent for shouting and bullying ,, it was inevitable , when you were talking world champ and millions of pounds .
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Re: Peter Fury and John Fury
Your cousin is monumentally retarded. I'm sure you already know that. You could live very comfortably for the rest of your life sensibly investing that sum.jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑08 Dec 2021, 13:01My Uncle ended up being the executor of the will of an elderly relative, who never had children, she was in her late 80's and as she had fallen out with the rest of the family, it was going to fall to him. He hadn't seen her for donkeys years, but suddenly she seemed to be invited to every family gathering there was, no doubt because my Uncle wanted to make sure she didn't change the will.
For some reason, she took a shine to my cousin, his son, and he was pretty kind to her, but not in some sort of creepy way, she was an old lady, and he used to talk to her when she came over.
My uncle started to worry she might leave him something in the will, and started getting quite agitated, and I remember one time she was out, he looked at my cousin and blurted out 'you've got to be in it to win it!' in a not too disguised reference to the will. My cousin was pretty digusted by it, and couldn't believe he'd said it.
In the end, My uncle died following a heart valve replacement failure, a few years later, she went on to live to 94, outliving him by 6 or 7 years, and my cousin was left in charge as the next in line in the family, and he got every last penny.
My cousin somehow managed to blow through all 450 grand in around 18 months with absolutely bollock-all top show for it.
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Not having a go but I worked in a similar field for a while. I wouldn't talk too directly about your patients if I were you, it might come back to bite you. Confidentiality and all thattonyevs wrote: ↑11 Dec 2021, 11:56I worked within a CMHT a couple years back. We had a person referred with depression.TopGun wrote: ↑08 Dec 2021, 13:35Thats a serious amount of cash to blow....he must have some good stories i betjamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑08 Dec 2021, 13:01
My Uncle ended up being the executor of the will of an elderly relative, who never had children, she was in her late 80's and as she had fallen out with the rest of the family, it was going to fall to him. He hadn't seen her for donkeys years, but suddenly she seemed to be invited to every family gathering there was, no doubt because my Uncle wanted to make sure she didn't change the will.
For some reason, she took a shine to my cousin, his son, and he was pretty kind to her, but not in some sort of creepy way, she was an old lady, and he used to talk to her when she came over.
My uncle started to worry she might leave him something in the will, and started getting quite agitated, and I remember one time she was out, he looked at my cousin and blurted out 'you've got to be in it to win it!' in a not too disguised reference to the will. My cousin was pretty digusted by it, and couldn't believe he'd said it.
In the end, My uncle died following a heart valve replacement failure, a few years later, she went on to live to 94, outliving him by 6 or 7 years, and my cousin was left in charge as the next in line in the family, and he got every last penny.
My cousin somehow managed to blow through all 450 grand in around 18 months with absolutely bollock-all top show for it.![]()
He had had some inheritance, remortgaged his family home he had been left earlier, and maxed out every credit card and HP type type service youd ever heard of; plus some we hadnt .. he had blown something like £200k, and run up debts of around the same amount in about an 18mths period.
He`d literally spent his time sofa surfing from one party to the next .. as his money ran out so did his mates.
When we picked him up he had come to the realisation the only thing he owned was a huge debt and a bigger bad name/reputation in the trade he previously worked - which meant the family house he had big plans to renovate was repossessed, his previous mates avoided him, and he found himself in a dingy bed sit with other dossers.
He didnt have any good stories to tell; pretty much every one was of how his mates had milked him. He took to going to bridges in the Newport area and threatening to jump off them. I think he preferred to be on section to St Cadocs than the sh1t house bedsits they put him in; last I heard he actually jumped, or more likely accidentally fell off one of the bridges and whilst not dying - injured himself enough to make an already shit situation even worse for himself.