Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora II - 18 December 2021

Who wins?

Poll ended at 19 Dec 2021, 06:28

Parker - Decision
32
64%
Parker - T/KO
8
16%
DRAW
4
8%
Chisora - T/KO
3
6%
Chisora - Decision
3
6%
 
Total votes: 50

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It's boring getting into the 'is this the worst PPV ever' conversation but I genuinely have no interest in any of these fights. A whole bill of worthless fights, including 2 bitch fights.
No big names at all. Neither Parker nor 12 loss Chisora are names. I will stream this but genuinely care nothing about the winners and contests.
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KiwiRider wrote: 15 Dec 2021, 14:03
stevec@france wrote: 15 Dec 2021, 13:41
handsofstone wrote: 15 Dec 2021, 13:32 The first fight was a decent fight but nothing to warrant a rematch, on the other hand, it's not as if I'm clamouring for either man to get a step up, I thought Chisora nicked the first fight but he's a knobend and a woman beater, I hope Parker shows some bad intensions for a change
knobend and a woman beater

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JamesPhilips wrote: 15 Dec 2021, 14:06 It's boring getting into the 'is this the worst PPV ever' conversation but I genuinely have no interest in any of these fights. A whole bill of worthless fights, including 2 bitch fights.
No big names at all. Neither Parker nor 12 loss Chisora are names. I will stream this but genuinely care nothing about the winners and contests.
I'm only going to follow the RBR on here, that's how much I care about it. I will watch a highlight package on YouTube when they put one up. But not in any hurry.
It's been heavily promoted here in NZ, terrestrial TV as well as Sky Sport. The documentary was on regular TV last nigh, and on Sky sport a few times
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KiwiRider wrote: 15 Dec 2021, 14:15
JamesPhilips wrote: 15 Dec 2021, 14:06 It's boring getting into the 'is this the worst PPV ever' conversation but I genuinely have no interest in any of these fights. A whole bill of worthless fights, including 2 bitch fights.
No big names at all. Neither Parker nor 12 loss Chisora are names. I will stream this but genuinely care nothing about the winners and contests.
I'm only going to follow the RBR on here, that's how much I care about it. I will watch a highlight package on YouTube when they put one up. But not in any hurry.
It's been heavily promoted here in NZ, terrestrial TV as well as Sky Sport. The documentary was on regular TV last nigh, and on Sky sport a few times
I guess Parker is a big name in NZ. But here there's no one who's a big name. How does a journeyman (Chisora) keep getting such big paydays? He has 1 loss for very 3 wins and has never won a big fight. Its weird
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tony1234 wrote: 15 Dec 2021, 07:52
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 15 Dec 2021, 04:40 Media work out today



Press conference tomorrow
Babic îs fighting a woman ? That is a game changer
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Not really inerested in the main event tbh. Chisora been recycled enough and Parker average.
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JamesPhilips wrote: 15 Dec 2021, 14:06 It's boring getting into the 'is this the worst PPV ever' conversation but I genuinely have no interest in any of these fights. A whole bill of worthless fights, including 2 bitch fights.
No big names at all. Neither Parker nor 12 loss Chisora are names. I will stream this but genuinely care nothing about the winners and contests.
Claiming Parker and chisora arnt names is just a childish lie. You can say you dont think they are good but they are defiantly names.
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Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora II - 18 December 2021

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Anyone think Parker will stop Del Boy? Andy Lee said a while ago they're going for a stoppage as they reckon Del will win on cards if it's tight. Del Boy has been in many wars over the years, his punch resistance may not be what it was.
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peter barlow wrote: 15 Dec 2021, 15:34 Anyone think Parker will stop Del Boy? Andy Lee said a while ago they're going for a stoppage as they reckon Del will win on cards if it's tight. Del Boy has been in many wars over the years, his punch resistance may not be what it was.
I could see fatigue being a factor. In his last 3, 12 round contests, Chisora started well and then faded (or got found out). In 2 of these fights he let a handy lead slip late on. I can see Parker possibly doing what Usyk was pretty close to doing and stopping a fatiguing Chisora. I would be surprised if it's an early 1 punch ko. It could be a late 1 punch ko on a gassed out Chisora.

Parker on points is probably the most realistic call. I dont think there would have been any strong complaints of the wrong man getting it, had Parker not received the flashiest of flash kds in the first. Dont know many who thought Chisora won irrespective of the kd
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gregregegg wrote: 15 Dec 2021, 15:16
JamesPhilips wrote: 15 Dec 2021, 14:06 It's boring getting into the 'is this the worst PPV ever' conversation but I genuinely have no interest in any of these fights. A whole bill of worthless fights, including 2 bitch fights.
No big names at all. Neither Parker nor 12 loss Chisora are names. I will stream this but genuinely care nothing about the winners and contests.
Claiming Parker and chisora arnt names is just a childish lie. You can say you dont think they are good but they are defiantly names.
Lol imagine pretending Chisora and Parker are ‘big names’ :lol:
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JamesPhilips wrote: 15 Dec 2021, 17:10
gregregegg wrote: 15 Dec 2021, 15:16
JamesPhilips wrote: 15 Dec 2021, 14:06 It's boring getting into the 'is this the worst PPV ever' conversation but I genuinely have no interest in any of these fights. A whole bill of worthless fights, including 2 bitch fights.
No big names at all. Neither Parker nor 12 loss Chisora are names. I will stream this but genuinely care nothing about the winners and contests.
Claiming Parker and chisora arnt names is just a childish lie. You can say you dont think they are good but they are defiantly names.
Lol imagine pretending Chisora and Parker are ‘big names’ :lol:
Parker and chisora are in the top 1% highest paid boxers over the last decade. Mabey the top 0.1%… you don’t get that kind of cash for not being a name (especially if you have a ton of loses like chisora.)
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peter barlow wrote: 15 Dec 2021, 15:34 Anyone think Parker will stop Del Boy? Andy Lee said a while ago they're going for a stoppage as they reckon Del will win on cards if it's tight. Del Boy has been in many wars over the years, his punch resistance may not be what it was.
I think a stoppage is unlikely unless Del is fatigued in the later rounds
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Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora II - 18 December 2021

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Going to stick my neck out, and whilst there is absolutely zero on this card of interest, I think the Parker/Chisora fight may just turn out to be a bit of a war, more than anything because there is so little on it i.e. The winner doesn't go anywhere in terms of world title, we've already done this once, and say 'last chance' all you like, the loser remains a top 10/15 heavyweight who will be able to get fights as they represent a 'name' without being a massive risk.

Probably be a snoozefest like the last one now (I slept through about 9 rounds of the last one)
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garethhop wrote: 16 Dec 2021, 03:42 Going to stick my neck out, and whilst there is absolutely zero on this card of interest, I think the Parker/Chisora fight may just turn out to be a bit of a war, more than anything because there is so little on it i.e. The winner doesn't go anywhere in terms of world title, we've already done this once, and say 'last chance' all you like, the loser remains a top 10/15 heavyweight who will be able to get fights as they represent a 'name' without being a massive risk.

Probably be a snoozefest like the last one now (I slept through about 9 rounds of the last one)
2-4 minutes of highlights on youtube is going to be plenty for me I'm sure. If it is a classic, I don't mind waiting
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I'm already tired of Chisora and all these acts..

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing/d ... s-25715851

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Derek Chisora refused to speak during the press conference for his rematch against Joseph Parker, telling Eddie Hearn to pay him for his words.

The British heavyweight will be looking for revenge against Parker this weekend after losing on a split decision earlier this year.

Parker and Chisora faced off ahead of their second meeting at a press conference with the New Zealander promising to end the fight within the distance.

Meanwhile Chisora comically refused to speak placing a note over his mouth that read : "Eddie (Hearn) pay me to talk."

He then continued to refuse to respond to Parker before brandishing a speaker and playing Queen classic Bohemian Rhapsody.
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I wonder how many people actually realising this fight is taking place ? Without the press conferences repeated all the time on Sky Sports News there is no hype.
Chisora might as well not talk as there is nobody out there listening to him anyway
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tony1234 wrote: 16 Dec 2021, 12:10 I wonder how many people actually realising this fight is taking place ? Without the press conferences repeated all the time on Sky Sports News there is no hype.
Chisora might as well not talk as there is nobody out there listening to him anyway
You get the odd Matchroom casuals on facebook, and the ones that comment on the YouTube presser videos, they're just smarks.

I wonder is Eddeh regrets leaving Sky.

Fair enough, he's got more money to play with, but no ones watching the cards.

Pubs don't have DAZN yet do they?
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Press Quotes

Eddie Hearn, Matchroom Sport Chairman: “Thank you to everyone in attendance today here in Manchester ahead of a huge night of boxing this Saturday, live and exclusively on DAZN all around the world from the Manchester Arena.

“A huge crowd is expected as we wrap up what has been a sensational year against all odds. Tomorrow night we have our 43rd show of the year in Uzbekistan, Saturday night we have our 44th show of the year in Manchester and I think it’s one of the best shows we’ve put on so far this year.

Of course, the main event a Heavyweight blockbuster, the rematch between Joseph Parker and Derek Chisora. One of four brilliant 50/50 championship fights on this card, littered with great young talent and fighters emerging on the World Championship stage.”

David Higgins, Founder and Director of Duco Events:

“It’s a pandemic and a crazy world. The fact Matchroom are still making events happen is fantastic. It’s a risky business, I think sometimes in boxing it’s fashionable to hate successful people, but I think everyone in the sport should be grateful Matchroom are keeping these shows going and providing the opportunities.

“We’re grateful for sure, and to Derek Chisora for always bringing a fight. Someone asked me today saying he’s going to come swinging trying to take Joseph’s head off does that worry you. I said no it doesn’t I’m sure we’ve prepared for that, but I’ve seen Joseph sometimes at his best in those types of situations. I’m sure Joseph is going to be cool and stick to the plan but if Derek wants to swing Joseph is ready for that too.”

Joseph Parker:

“It’s great to be back in Manchester with the team. We’ve had a tremendous camp; this fight will be different from the first for sure.

“Not having a crowd made a big difference, I think Derek feeds off the crowd, I feed off of them too. A lot of fighters feed off the crowd and just having no noise and hearing specific voices it’s pretty weird.

“The World Title, my eyes are just purely on this weekend and Derek Chisora. I want to probably knock him out between round six and ten.”

Andy Lee, trainer of Joseph Parker:

“I know how much Chisora would have improved with Dave because when I won the World Title, in my corner assisting Adam Booth was Dave Coldwell – I know all about him. I know how he will help Chisora improve.

“After the first fight when the bell rang, I thought they were going to give the decision to Derek Chisora, I said it to him in the ring. We got the decision and when I watched it back, I thought Joe won the fight. We won’t be negative, Joe’s going to be a lot more positive, he’ll stand a lot more, fight a lot more and be more consistent with his attack. It should make for an excellent fight.

“If anything, the crowd in there will be a benefit to Chisora more than Parker because he’ll feed of that and the energy, he’s a big favourite. He’s now the hero, people love him and his fight style, he’s given us great fights over the years. We’re here to do business, when Joseph gets in the ring, he’ll be different in terms of the spite he has, mentally and physically.”

Derek Chisora:

Chose not to speak.

Dave Coldwell, trainer of Derek Chisora:

“I think as a fighter gets more experience under their belt, they get wiser and realise certain mistakes that they made earlier on in their career they can’t afford to make as they go on. They just learn and get smarter.

“Derek when he linked up with David Haye, changed the way he lived nutrition-wise, looking after his body and keeping it maintained even between fights. Even though he’s getting older, that takes it’s time to really bed in and with consistency you get better results in how you perform.

“Right now, Derek is performing really well, I’m happy with the work he’s done in the gym, his commitment, his sparring sessions have been great. He’s in a good place and you’ll see on Saturday.

“I don’t expect it to go the distance. I think Parker’s link up with Andy Lee, he’s a very smart man when it comes to boxing, he’s worked with two of the best in business and to sprinkle a bit of Andy Lee’s knowledge in there you’re going to get results. I’m expecting a better, more aggressive and positive Joseph Parker, but in the same vein I’m seeing a better Derek Chisora.

“People have underestimated what a difference having a crowd makes to these guys, Derek loves the crowds singing his name and getting behind him. Certain fighters it doesn’t affect, your cool calculated boxing skillsters who’ll think their way through everything. Fighters like Derek and Joseph, they get that vibe, and it adds an extra few per cent. When you’re talking about performance levels in these kinds of fights, those little per cents add up.”

Jack Cullen:

“I’ve sold near enough 1,000 tickets, and I’ve promised everyone I’m winning the European Title, that’s my early Christmas present. I’m taking it with both hands and I’m going for it, I’ve had the European Title in my head for a long while and come 18th December it’ll be a victory and a dream come true.

“You win a European Title and you’re right up there in all the rankings, anything can happen after this. I’ve just got to get past Sadjo on the 18thand we’re ready for next year.

“I’ve just got to stick to my game plan, if I stick to it then it should be a good night for me.”

Kevin Lele Sadjo:

“I did accept the challenge very quickly and thanks for the invitation. I am in form, my camp has had me training ready for a fight, when the opportunity arises to feature on a Chisora card it’s something you can’t miss. Without even watching Jack Cullen we were ready to sign up quickly and I’m hoping to return to France with the European Title.

“It’s funny you should choose the word war; the war is not in the crowd but in the ring. The war is where I position myself as a boxer, it’s not just the crowd for Jack Cullen, my crowd is watching me at home on DAZN. I think it’s going to be a superb encounter and the war is all about heart and I’ve brought my heart.”

Zelfa Barrett:

“Bruno Tarimo, I’ve studied him, watched him, I know he’s a solid fighter. He throws the kitchen sink and has a bit of brains about him, but this is my World Title fight. I’m not thinking about anything else, he’s my target and I respect him and the struggles he’s had. This is boxing, it doesn’t matter where you’re from or what you’ve done, it’s all about what happens in the ring. I’m excited and more than ready for this.

“I’m doing this for my mum, it’s been a hard year but tough times, tough people. This is boxing and I can express how I feel in the ring, come Saturday night I’ll be victorious.”

Bruno Tarimo:

“Firstly, I want to thank God for bringing me here safe, this is my first time in Manchester for a big show. Thanks to Matchroom for bringing me onto the show, I appreciate it. Thanks for the support of my team in Australia and Tanzania – for my country.

“I come from nothing, I can fight Super-Bantam but I have opportunity in Australia, it helps me but it doesn’t have the small weight. I have to take the big fight with big people to be World Champion and help my family.

“Zelfa Barrett is a good fighter, he’s smart and my team and I back in Australia were watching him. Every fighter is different, all the fighters in Australia know and support me, it’s going to be a good show on Saturday night.”

Lerrone Richards:

“This is a world level fight, a real-world level fight, a fight that I relish, and I know I can win – win in great fashion.

“The winner of this fight, which will be me, can push on to world level. I’m excited about this fight, it’s an opportunity for me to showcase my skills at the higher level and shut the doubters up. Once I win this fight, the future is bright.”

David Nyika:

“I feel very lucky to be here, thank you for having me on the card. I have the opportunity now to let people know who David Nyika is, I’m here to stay in the UK and ready to make my mark. I feel totally blessed to be part of such a big camp.

“I didn’t come away with a gold medal, so I technically didn’t achieve my ultimate dream of getting a gold. Onwards and upwards, this is an opportunity for me to make a living and continue down a path that I’ve dreamed of as a kid.”

Sandy Ryan:

“We’re also looking to make a statement, my trainer Clifton Mitchell is holding me back a little bit, he wants me to start strong, sharp and box. When we see an opening, we’re going to take her out.

“Don’t worry, the knockout is going to happen, we’re going to show a little boxing first. It isn’t going eight rounds.”

Jordan Thompson:

“It’s a pleasure to be back out, especially in my hometown, I’m looking to go out there and put on another explosive performance. Like I always say, artistic violence, that’s one thing you can expect with me.

“The Cruiserweight scene domestically is buzzing right now; I definitely see myself getting amongst that and coming out top of the crop. Like I said, I’ve got an amazing team in place, I’m looking forward to what next year brings. Definitely titles on the horizon no doubt about it.”

Cyrus Pattinson:

“I think activity is one of the most important things to be out on a regular basis. I know I’ve got a durable opponent for the weekend; he’s been with some of the domestic fighters I’ve been fighting for British and European Titles so I’m looking to make a statement on Saturday and do things other Welterweights haven’t been able to do.”

Rhiannon Dixon:

“It was a bit frustrating hearing my opponent potentially pulled out again and all the mix up of this week. I’m just excited to get there on Saturday. I’m just looking to make my mark on 2022 and I just can’t wait for it.”

Alen Babic:

“Two weeks ago, you [Eddie] slid into my DM’s and asked if I wanted to fight, I said yeah let’s go. People have routine victories, I have routine knockouts, I think Saturday is going to be another routine knockout. I’m going to operate like John Wick.

“I like this, I like this living. I give it all to boxing and for the next five to six years I just want to box – I don’t want to do anything else.

“Let’s go, like I said I have a brilliant team, we are going for the Bridgerweight Title. I’m really into it and let’s go, I’m going to give my whole life to it and I’m sure we’re going to get it.”
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richards, cullen, and barrett fights aint bad at all. bit of an under the radar undercard tbh
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I guess this is a good chance for you guys to see 26 year old David Nyika from New Zealand.
Oddly he has grown 2 inches in the last 6-8 months.
I checked his stats on Boxrec the other day and he has gone from 6'4" to 6'6" :maybe:
He lost out in a SD at the Olympics semi final to the eventual silver medalist.
The guy can move really well for a big bloke. Its only his 2nd pro fight.
Look for quick hands, varied combinations, and if he meets any resistance - a solid chin.
Looks to have made a big commitment turning pro, getting a good signing, and moving to the UK to get the sparring, training and fight opportunities he wouldn't get down under. :box:
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Huge crowd? Eddie must have his lads treating all the local gyms again.
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margaret thatcher wrote: 16 Dec 2021, 13:14 richards, cullen, and barrett fights aint bad at all. bit of an under the radar undercard tbh
Yeah. Gongora is favourite against Richards. We’ll find out how good Lerrone is. I really like the look of the Cullen fight too.
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mickey1975 wrote: 16 Dec 2021, 13:43 Huge crowd? Eddie must have his lads treating all the local gyms again.
The last time I checked they’d sold about 8,000. Nothing special for the MEN or for a big show but has another promoter sold more for a show that’s happened this year?
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Re: Joseph Parker vs. Derek Chisora II - 18 December 2021

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KiwiRider wrote: 16 Dec 2021, 13:28 I guess this is a good chance for you guys to see 26 year old David Nyika from New Zealand.
Oddly he has grown 2 inches in the last 6-8 months.
I checked his stats on Boxrec the other day and he has gone from 6'4" to 6'6" :maybe:
He lost out in a SD at the Olympics semi final to the eventual silver medalist.
The guy can move really well for a big bloke. Its only his 2nd pro fight.
Look for quick hands, varied combinations, and if he meets any resistance - a solid chin.
Looks to have made a big commitment turning pro, getting a good signing, and moving to the UK to get the sparring, training and fight opportunities he wouldn't get down under. :box:
Ha ha he's still growing. Hopefully get to see him :clap:
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