Hughie Fury vs. Michael Hunter?

Who wins?

Fury - Decision
10
36%
Fury - T/KO
3
11%
Draw
1
4%
Hunter - T/KO
0
No votes
Hunter - Decision
10
36%
Who cares?
4
14%
 
Total votes: 28

ironbeard
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Re: Hughie Fury vs. Michael Hunter?

Post by ironbeard »

KiwiRider wrote: 16 Dec 2021, 13:37
ironbeard wrote: 16 Dec 2021, 11:28 I’d watch it.

Hunter has only lost to Usyk. At the top of his game I would take him over Hughie. But, the American looks to have lost interest in his profession.
I keep expecting Hunter to produce.
I'm optimistic he can. The Forest fight lowered my expectations somewhat.
He is 33, so it can't be age, so like you say, it could be motivation. And yet he hasn't really been out of shape either, so he must be doing something in the gym.
My expectations have never been extremely high for him at HW, given his size and power. I think that the problem might be that he no longer believes that he can get to the top, which is a debilitating realization.
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Re: Hughie Fury vs. Michael Hunter?

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ironbeard wrote: 16 Dec 2021, 14:20
KiwiRider wrote: 16 Dec 2021, 13:37
ironbeard wrote: 16 Dec 2021, 11:28 I’d watch it.

Hunter has only lost to Usyk. At the top of his game I would take him over Hughie. But, the American looks to have lost interest in his profession.
I keep expecting Hunter to produce.
I'm optimistic he can. The Forest fight lowered my expectations somewhat.
He is 33, so it can't be age, so like you say, it could be motivation. And yet he hasn't really been out of shape either, so he must be doing something in the gym.
My expectations have never been extremely high for him at HW, given his size and power. I think that the problem might be that he no longer believes that he can get to the top, which is a debilitating realization.
He's just waiting to get his man strength. He's just a nipper. Growing into his size. He'll be unbeatable when he does.
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Re: Hughie Fury vs. Michael Hunter?

Post by margaret thatcher »

baby hughie :yay:
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Re: Hughie Fury vs. Michael Hunter?

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JamesPhilips wrote: 16 Dec 2021, 14:56
ironbeard wrote: 16 Dec 2021, 14:20
KiwiRider wrote: 16 Dec 2021, 13:37

I keep expecting Hunter to produce.
I'm optimistic he can. The Forest fight lowered my expectations somewhat.
He is 33, so it can't be age, so like you say, it could be motivation. And yet he hasn't really been out of shape either, so he must be doing something in the gym.
My expectations have never been extremely high for him at HW, given his size and power. I think that the problem might be that he no longer believes that he can get to the top, which is a debilitating realization.
He's just waiting to get his man strength. He's just a nipper. Growing into his size. He'll be unbeatable when he does.
I was speaking of Hunter, not Baby Fury.
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Re: Hughie Fury vs. Michael Hunter?

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ironbeard wrote: 16 Dec 2021, 14:59
JamesPhilips wrote: 16 Dec 2021, 14:56
ironbeard wrote: 16 Dec 2021, 14:20

My expectations have never been extremely high for him at HW, given his size and power. I think that the problem might be that he no longer believes that he can get to the top, which is a debilitating realization.
He's just waiting to get his man strength. He's just a nipper. Growing into his size. He'll be unbeatable when he does.
I was speaking of Hunter, not Baby Fury.
Sorry. But given that Hughie already has the jab and footwork of Muhammad Ali (albeit a white one) when he gets his man strength he will also get his power. Like a white George Foreman. The white Ali / Foreman hybrid will be unstoppable
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Re: Hughie Fury vs. Michael Hunter?

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JamesPhilips wrote: 16 Dec 2021, 15:02
ironbeard wrote: 16 Dec 2021, 14:59
JamesPhilips wrote: 16 Dec 2021, 14:56

He's just waiting to get his man strength. He's just a nipper. Growing into his size. He'll be unbeatable when he does.
I was speaking of Hunter, not Baby Fury.
Sorry. But given that Hughie already has the jab and footwork of Muhammad Ali (albeit a white one) when he gets his man strength he will also get his power. Like a white George Foreman. The white Ali / Foreman hybrid will be unstoppable
I can’t say that I envision that level of growth in Hughie, but an “Ali/Foreman hybrid” is welcomed to my HW world anytime.
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Re: Hughie Fury vs. Michael Hunter?

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you never know, he hasnt even gone through puberty yet, foreman levels of power might be achievable, to go along with his ali level shades
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Re: Hughie Fury vs. Michael Hunter?

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margaret thatcher wrote: 16 Dec 2021, 15:11 you never know, he hasnt even gone through puberty yet, foreman levels of power might be achievable, to go along with his ali level shades
Aw mate , he left his ali shades on the train. Apparently picked up by a hobo who was last seen wearing them while running into brick walls in the underground trying to get to Hogwarts.
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Re: Hughie Fury vs. Michael Hunter?

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KiwiRider wrote: 16 Dec 2021, 15:20
margaret thatcher wrote: 16 Dec 2021, 15:11 you never know, he hasnt even gone through puberty yet, foreman levels of power might be achievable, to go along with his ali level shades
Aw mate , he left his ali shades on the train. Apparently picked up by a hobo who was last seen wearing them while running into brick walls in the underground trying to get to Hogwarts.
Speaking of Adrien Broner…when’s his next fight?
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Re: Hughie Fury vs. Michael Hunter?

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lazboy wrote: 16 Dec 2021, 16:54
KiwiRider wrote: 16 Dec 2021, 15:20
margaret thatcher wrote: 16 Dec 2021, 15:11 you never know, he hasnt even gone through puberty yet, foreman levels of power might be achievable, to go along with his ali level shades
Aw mate , he left his ali shades on the train. Apparently picked up by a hobo who was last seen wearing them while running into brick walls in the underground trying to get to Hogwarts.
Speaking of Adrien Broner…when’s his next fight?
:lol:
Connor Benn first quarter of 2022 MEN I'm guessing.
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Re: Hughie Fury vs. Michael Hunter?

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Would be good if Hughie, Hunter, Hrgo, Wallin, Joyce, Sanchez, Gassiev, Kabayel etc fought some of each other. Then we might figure out who is the real deal and who isn't.
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Re: Hughie Fury vs. Michael Hunter?

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peter barlow wrote: 16 Dec 2021, 19:22 Would be good if Hughie, Hunter, Hrgo, Wallin, Joyce, Sanchez, Gassiev, Kabayel etc fought some of each other. Then we might figure out who is the real deal and who isn't.
Jared Anderson, Big Frank Sanchez and David Nyika :OhYes:
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Re: Hughie Fury vs. Michael Hunter?

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margaret thatcher wrote: 16 Dec 2021, 00:40 hughie's just a pup, gonna be a force when he grows up

if he's this good in his late 20s, imagine how good he'll be with extra training and experience when he's in his late 40s. in pure mathematical terms, he'll be at least double the fighter
If you disagree you are denying math.
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Re: Hughie Fury vs. Michael Hunter?

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ironbeard wrote: 16 Dec 2021, 11:28 I’d watch it.

Hunter has only lost to Usyk. At the top of his game I would take him over Hughie. But, the American looks to have lost interest in his profession.
He deserved a loss against Jerry Forrest anyway.
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Re: Hughie Fury vs. Michael Hunter?

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DrDuke wrote: 17 Dec 2021, 09:50
ironbeard wrote: 16 Dec 2021, 11:28 I’d watch it.

Hunter has only lost to Usyk. At the top of his game I would take him over Hughie. But, the American looks to have lost interest in his profession.
He deserved a loss against Jerry Forrest anyway.
I have no opinion on that one, since I haven’t bothered to watch it, yet.

. . . and probably never will
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Re: Hughie Fury vs. Michael Hunter?

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i think Fury gets the win , i expect him to improve on his last fights and do a job if he got the chance against hunter , hunter hasnt done anything for me dont look like a heavey weight either
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Re: Hughie Fury vs. Michael Hunter?

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margaret thatcher wrote: 16 Dec 2021, 00:40 hughie's just a pup, gonna be a force when he grows up

if he's this good in his late 20s, imagine how good he'll be with extra training and experience when he's in his late 40s. in pure mathematical terms, he'll be at least double the fighter
whats the matter with u mags let the boy grow in to his man body strengh is that to much to ask
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Re: Hughie Fury vs. Michael Hunter?

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that's exactly what i'm saying, this guy in his late 20s is just a boy still, hasnt gotten his man strength yet
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Re: Hughie Fury vs. Michael Hunter?

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margaret thatcher wrote: 17 Dec 2021, 23:05 that's exactly what i'm saying, this guy in his late 20s is just a boy still, hasnt gotten his man strength yet
right all jokes aside ,Man strenght , is that a new term, i am late 30s i never remember my dad saying that or older brother, my mate in his 20s propper boxing fan uses that term, is it a new thing,
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Re: Hughie Fury vs. Michael Hunter?

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margaret thatcher wrote: 16 Dec 2021, 15:11 you never know, he hasnt even gone through puberty yet, foreman levels of power might be achievable, to go along with his ali level shades
People will forever take the piss because of Fat Mick's mad quote after the fight, but Hughie did actually win that. They both landed next to nothing, but Parker missed more. It's definitely a fight to never watch again, so I've never given it a reappraisal, but I couldn't see how Parker got it at the time.

It seemed like Parker was aggressive and more marketable, so he got it based solely on that. But if you scored it properly, he could barely land a punch.
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Re: Hughie Fury vs. Michael Hunter?

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Cyclops wrote: 18 Dec 2021, 01:15
margaret thatcher wrote: 16 Dec 2021, 15:11 you never know, he hasnt even gone through puberty yet, foreman levels of power might be achievable, to go along with his ali level shades
People will forever take the piss because of Fat Mick's mad quote after the fight, but Hughie did actually win that. They both landed next to nothing, but Parker missed more. It's definitely a fight to never watch again, so I've never given it a reappraisal, but I couldn't see how Parker got it at the time.

It seemed like Parker was aggressive and more marketable, so he got it based solely on that. But if you scored it properly, he could barely land a punch.

i dont score a guy down for missing, you dont land anything you dont throw either
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Re: Hughie Fury vs. Michael Hunter?

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margaret thatcher wrote: 18 Dec 2021, 01:16
Cyclops wrote: 18 Dec 2021, 01:15
margaret thatcher wrote: 16 Dec 2021, 15:11 you never know, he hasnt even gone through puberty yet, foreman levels of power might be achievable, to go along with his ali level shades
People will forever take the piss because of Fat Mick's mad quote after the fight, but Hughie did actually win that. They both landed next to nothing, but Parker missed more. It's definitely a fight to never watch again, so I've never given it a reappraisal, but I couldn't see how Parker got it at the time.

It seemed like Parker was aggressive and more marketable, so he got it based solely on that. But if you scored it properly, he could barely land a punch.

i dont score a guy down for missing, you dont land anything you dont throw either
So you scored it Hughie like me?

Hughie did land. Nothing good, but he landed.
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Re: Hughie Fury vs. Michael Hunter?

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i cant even remember how i scored it, but i have no problem with jp getting the decision and dont think hughie was hard done by at all

parker throwing and missing isnt any worse than hughie not throwing and hence not landing. should've given each of them losses for that sh!t show
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Re: Hughie Fury vs. Michael Hunter?

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margaret thatcher wrote: 18 Dec 2021, 01:24 i cant even remember how i scored it, but i have no problem with jp getting the decision and dont think hughie was hard done by at all

parker throwing and missing isnt any worse than hughie not throwing and hence not landing
I'm not going to argue. At least Parker tried to make a fight of it. It was very poor from both.
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Re: Hughie Fury vs. Michael Hunter?

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margaret thatcher wrote: 18 Dec 2021, 01:24 i cant even remember how i scored it, but i have no problem with jp getting the decision and dont think hughie was hard done by at all

parker throwing and missing isnt any worse than hughie not throwing and hence not landing. should've given each of them losses for that sh!t show
I scored Hughie wide, but I totally get why he lost.

He shoulda won clearly, tho'...
1 - Effective aggression - zero from both
2 - Ring Generalship and defence - it was Hughie "Shades of Ali" by a MILE.
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