Artur Beterbiev vs. Marcus Browne | ESPN - December 17, 2021

[DrDuke]

nah, for fighters at that level a big slugger is more danger to bert, these guys who just run never get his respect. it allows him to come forward and bully them without hesitation

Bivol isn't just a runner. He makes angles and works, he can do the hit-and-not-get-hit stuff with Beter. It's a truly intriguing bout. And Smith? C'mon, he can hit, but faster he'll face the truck himself.

[apollo creed]

I'd like to see both fights.

The Smith fight seems needed only because Smith is beltholding now. But in reality only Beter and Bivol are true candidates for becoming the man at LHW. Bivol already outclassed Smith, Beter will do it too, if they meet. The WBO 'champion' deserved a loss against Vlasov too.

True but I think Beterbiev vs Joe would sell more and be more entertaining. Anyway, the man at 175 would be the winner of Beterb vs Bivol fight.

[DrDuke]

I'd like to see both fights.

The Smith fight seems needed only because Smith is beltholding now. But in reality only Beter and Bivol are true candidates for becoming the man at LHW. Bivol already outclassed Smith, Beter will do it too, if they meet. The WBO 'champion' deserved a loss against Vlasov too.

True but I think Beterbiev vs Joe would sell more and be more entertaining. Anyway, the man at 175 would be the winner of Beterb vs Bivol fight.

It'll sell more because Smith is a bigger draw in US, but the victory must remain with boxing fans. Bivol-Beter let's get it on!

[apollo creed]

nah, for fighters at that level a big slugger is more danger to bert, these guys who just run never get his respect. it allows him to come forward and bully them without hesitation

Good point. Gvozdyk was a very good boxer, stronger and bigger than Bivol, and I thought he'd outbox Beterbiev but he lost. Also Beterbiev was younger.

I think Bterbiev could stop Bivol.

[margaret thatcher]

either way, unifications gotta happen, bert and joe are at least both with top rank, surely they could fight

but of course dudes waiting on canelo payday

[ironbeard]

I propose that Canelo offers Beterbiev the fight at 168.
Beterbiev has to come down in weight.
He won't get a better offer than that will he ?
Probably the only way you'll make the bout happen in the short term.

Beterbiev should not do a Dawson. He missed weight on his first shot in this one, at 175.

If Canelo skips him, Beterbiev v Bivol should be made in Madison Square Garden, Dubai, or Moscow.

If Beterbiev v Bivol can’t be made, Beterbiev should offer to go to the UK to defend v Callum Smith. With a decent undercard it would sell very well. I would pay for it. Judges could be left at home.

[ironbeard]

People selling Bivol short on here.

[ironbeard]

Just one more mention of the undercard; . . .nevermind, there are no words. Ok, I will try.

It was like a movie consciously made so bad that it would be funny that failed.

[Thomastearns]

Beterbiev, or Better-Biev as the Sky commentators called him is like a LHW GGG.

Perhaps not as skilful but single minded and tough as nails.

Browne had one seriously tough evening in there.

[Fightnight Scores]

What was your scorecard prior to the last round ?
Give or take what did you have the round score ?
5-3
6-2
7-1
Beterbiev ?

Wouldn't it be good if there was a scoring site, where you could create & join groups, see one anothers scorecards side-by-side, and get an average scorecard for the whole group?
Oh, that's right.....such a thing does exist!

It happens right here.
We have been doing this month in month out for years.
Well over a decade.
Where have you been ?

Well, yeah...but I mean outside of the confines of a forum....
Plus our system gathers extra data, to produce more in-depth scorecards, which can also be compared side-by-side

[brilo33]

Beterbiev vs Joe Smith Jr next please!

i think joe jr is having to fight johnson then yarde i think

[adislav123]

there'd be zero justifiable reason for canelo trying to get any of the three light heavy champions go down to 68, or any catchweight or shitty rehydration stipulation other than he's bot confident beating em at the full 175.

of course they would do it and not say a fornicating thing but that wouldn't make it a less shitty move.