Tyson Fury would have been eaten for dinner in my era, claims Frank Bruno

[fanman]

Fury is enormous. Has already beaten klitschko and wilder. Says he would beat every heavy in history, and why not. He can box well, and has a big size advantage.
There were some great fighters in the 80s and 90s so who knows.

[mickey1975]

You can't be serious ?

I remember the fights. Mike was shocking against Bonecrusher, in his "prime".
Spinks was great, at 12-7. That's tiny to today's boys. And his wins over Holmes were debatable at least.
I know you meant The Truth Williams...

[tonyevs]

Tyson's ego beat him. He enjoyed the celebrity more than the gym pretty soon after winning the titles.

The technique evaporated as he neglected to train and abused the booze, women and drugs instead. But he took his lumps as good as any heavyweight I can think of. Those that stopped the younger Mike Tyson gave him an absolute pounding to get rid of him .. Fury and Joshua have not looked anything as sturdy.

Peak for peak Mike Tyson wouldn't break a sweat knocking out Fury and Joshua

[JamesPhilips]

Tyson would make mincemeat of are Frank

[jameswilson]

Richard ‘The Secret’ Williams?

[mickey1975]

Tyson's ego beat him. He enjoyed the celebrity more than the gym pretty soon after winning the titles.

The technique evaporated as he neglected to train and abused the booze, women and drugs instead. But he took his lumps as good as any heavyweight I can think of. Those that stopped the younger Mike Tyson gave him an absolute pounding to get rid of him .. Fury and Joshua have not looked anything as sturdy.

Peak for peak Mike Tyson wouldn't break a sweat knocking out Fury and Joshua

But couldn't knock out Smith, Tucker, Douglas in his prime? Fury and AJ must be really crap.... Mike broke sweat with James Tillis, Jesse Ferguson and Mitch Green! Do you even know boxing?

[margaret thatcher]

shots fired

[THEBUTCH]

The difference is if you come for the win against Mike you're very likely to get knocked out or stopped. Employing survival tactics might make Mike look bad, but so what, they still tended to lose.

To his credit AJ, I think, would come for the win. He's a gonna and in quick time IMO

Fury has also looked beyond shite against far inferior opposition than Bonecrusher Smith (a peak Smith by the way, who was a hell of a puncher).

I think you might be on shaky ground if we're moving into who looked better and thrilled the crowds

I honestly dont think anyone will ever replicate the nervous excitement Mike Tyson brought to fight night. Surely he's unparalleled ?

[margaret thatcher]

it's true though, when ppl do hypothetical matchups there's a huge bias to pick extreme outcomes, like early ko or shutout decisions. when even the greatest fighters had loads of fights vs inferior opponents who they didnt beat so convincingly

its like ppl feel compelled to make it dominant as a statement about 1 era over another

[mickey1975]

I'll admit, I was a boxing fan anyway but Mike was the first megastar I ever saw. 9.30 am on ITV. He was incredible. As I got older, he seemed more myth than anything. He was undoubtedly unbelievable at a very young age, but his record just doesn't stack up. The Cus excuse is boring. People say Cus made him the way he was by letting him get away with murder.

[jimmystone]

I'll admit, I was a boxing fan anyway but Mike was the first megastar I ever saw. 9.30 am on ITV. He was incredible. As I got older, he seemed more myth than anything. He was undoubtedly unbelievable at a very young age, but his record just doesn't stack up. The Cus excuse is boring. People say Cus made him the way he was by letting him get away with murder.

Forget about Mike Tyson.

How do you think Fury would have got on with prime Bowe?

[mickey1975]

I'll admit, I was a boxing fan anyway but Mike was the first megastar I ever saw. 9.30 am on ITV. He was incredible. As I got older, he seemed more myth than anything. He was undoubtedly unbelievable at a very young age, but his record just doesn't stack up. The Cus excuse is boring. People say Cus made him the way he was by letting him get away with murder.

Forget about Mike Tyson.

How do you think Fury would have got on with prime Bowe?

I think Bowe was hugely underrated. But Golota was beating him up without the low blows.
Who knows? Nobody can say who would win. It would be a good fight.

[THEBUTCH]

M.Thatch, That's probably well observed in some instances, although in Mike Tyson's case he was one of the most destructive heavyweights of all time IMO so it's not really the same stretch of the imagination.

Look what he did to Holmes the moment Larry changed his tactics in their 4th round.

I won't insult anyone by saying that was a peak Holmes, but that isn't the point.

In the history of boxing who could have ever smashed Holmes to pieces and knock him out cold ?

[jimmystone]

I'll admit, I was a boxing fan anyway but Mike was the first megastar I ever saw. 9.30 am on ITV. He was incredible. As I got older, he seemed more myth than anything. He was undoubtedly unbelievable at a very young age, but his record just doesn't stack up. The Cus excuse is boring. People say Cus made him the way he was by letting him get away with murder.

Forget about Mike Tyson.

How do you think Fury would have got on with prime Bowe?

I think Bowe was hugely underrated. But Golota was beating him up without the low blows.
Who knows? Nobody can say who would win. It would be a good fight.

Of the late 80s to mid 90s fighters I used to have Bowe, Lewis, Holyfield and Tyson beating Fury on all their best nights,

Since the second Wilder fight I only have Bowe beating him. Prime Bowe is the best of that era but his prime was short.

p.s. the Bowe who fought Golota was shot to shit.

[tonyevs]

Tyson's ego beat him. He enjoyed the celebrity more than the gym pretty soon after winning the titles.

The technique evaporated as he neglected to train and abused the booze, women and drugs instead. But he took his lumps as good as any heavyweight I can think of. Those that stopped the younger Mike Tyson gave him an absolute pounding to get rid of him .. Fury and Joshua have not looked anything as sturdy.

Peak for peak Mike Tyson wouldn't break a sweat knocking out Fury and Joshua

But couldn't knock out Smith, Tucker, Douglas in his prime? Fury and AJ must be really crap.... Mike broke sweat with James Tillis, Jesse Ferguson and Mitch Green! Do you even know boxing?

To be honest Mick it's a waste of time discussing boxing with you when Fury is mentioned, you go into meltdown and come across as a typical casual.

I agree the myth of Mike Tyson gets bigger each passing decade. Although nothing as over inflated and over hyped as Tyson Fury.

[jimmystone]

Although nothing as over inflated and over hyped as Tyson Fury.

Tyson Fury isn't overhyped. He's grossly underrated by most spectators. Ask anybody who has moved around with him how good he is (and he's moved around with almost everybody). He and Usyk are elite. The rest trail by a distance.

[dr_devious]

Do you honestly think Fury is better than a peak Mike Tyson?.........

No not at all, just very significantly bigger (a foot height and reach) and good enough to keep away.

[mickey1975]

Although nothing as over inflated and over hyped as Tyson Fury.

Tyson Fury isn't overhyped. He's grossly underrated by most spectators. Ask anybody who has moved around with him how good he is (and he's moved around with almost everybody). He and Usyk are elite. The rest trail by a distance.

That's correct. Everyone he's ever sparred say he's next level. Including top pros. But Tony knows better.

[mickey1975]

Tyson's ego beat him. He enjoyed the celebrity more than the gym pretty soon after winning the titles.

The technique evaporated as he neglected to train and abused the booze, women and drugs instead. But he took his lumps as good as any heavyweight I can think of. Those that stopped the younger Mike Tyson gave him an absolute pounding to get rid of him .. Fury and Joshua have not looked anything as sturdy.

Peak for peak Mike Tyson wouldn't break a sweat knocking out Fury and Joshua

But couldn't knock out Smith, Tucker, Douglas in his prime? Fury and AJ must be really crap.... Mike broke sweat with James Tillis, Jesse Ferguson and Mitch Green! Do you even know boxing?

To be honest Mick it's a waste of time discussing boxing with you when Fury is mentioned, you go into meltdown and come across as a typical casual.

I agree the myth of Mike Tyson gets bigger each passing decade. Although nothing as over inflated and over hyped as Tyson Fury.

If Fury ends up getting chinned by Kevin McBride, at any age, I'll admit he was terrible. The Mike Tyson fanboys actually thought he was back in contention after the Roy Jones exhibition!

[Riddick Bowie]

Well Spinks was fantastic light heavyweight who twice bested Larry Holmes and destroyed Gerry Cooney, but was completely obliterated by Mike.

The win over Tony Tucker was impressive too as a result. For a big puncher like Tyson who finished fights early, he showed good stamina against a tall, live heavyweight who came mostly to survive.

Holding/mauling against a good Mike Tyson wasn't anywhere near enough to win. Take away Fury's holding/mailing and he ain't going to do a lot against Mike. The big achievement would be lasting the distance.

As for AJ, he'd go the same way as Berbick, Williams, Stewart, Spinks, Tubbs, Holmes, Seldon

Danny Williams?
Tucker wasn't great. Lewis and Hide did much better with him.

I can't believe someone who would insist in one thread they 'know their sh1t' would in another compare the old fat drug addict Herbie Hide beat with the young peak undefeated Tucker Tyson fought. Do you have any concept of time? Age? Wear and tear?

'Lewis and Tyson were the same age when they fought' - Lewis was having only his second pro fight at the bottom of Tyson's undercard when Mike was 37-0 and king of the world. That you don't understand how certain fighters can put extra miles on the clock is illustrated here and in your hilarious attempt to sell Wlad's win over a dead Ray Mercer.

Maybe chill out on the hero worship of Tyson Fury as it's forcing you to make laughable arguments.

[HomicideHenry]

As much as I like Frank Bruno he's talking out of his ass a little bit. With the exception of Larry Holmes and Mike Tyson in the '80s everybody else in the heavyweight division could have been beaten by the likes of Tyson Fury.

For some reason in the '80s most of the heavyweights were inconsistent and often fell off the rails due to drugs or alcohol abuse. When they were good they were damn good but when they were bad they were just horrible.

[Riddick Bowie]

As much as I like Frank Bruno he's talking out of his ass a little bit. With the exception of Larry Holmes and Mike Tyson in the '80s everybody else in the heavyweight division could have been beaten by the likes of Tyson Fury.

For some reason in the '80s most of the heavyweights were inconsistent and often fell off the rails due to drugs or alcohol abuse. When they were good they were damn good but when they were bad they were just horrible.

Didn't Tyson Fury drop out 2 years by going off the rails with drink and drugs?

It's too early to be saying Fury would beat all these guys of yesteryear. Perception of a fighter changes so much when they lose, and how they lose. A 40 year old Wlad who wouldn't fight and a clueless Deontay who couldn't fight don't make you a lock to beat everyone in history. Or is it Otto Wallin or Steve Cunningham that's making you rate him so highly?

[mickey1975]

Well Spinks was fantastic light heavyweight who twice bested Larry Holmes and destroyed Gerry Cooney, but was completely obliterated by Mike.

The win over Tony Tucker was impressive too as a result. For a big puncher like Tyson who finished fights early, he showed good stamina against a tall, live heavyweight who came mostly to survive.

Holding/mauling against a good Mike Tyson wasn't anywhere near enough to win. Take away Fury's holding/mailing and he ain't going to do a lot against Mike. The big achievement would be lasting the distance.

As for AJ, he'd go the same way as Berbick, Williams, Stewart, Spinks, Tubbs, Holmes, Seldon

Danny Williams?
Tucker wasn't great. Lewis and Hide did much better with him.

I can't believe someone who would insist in one thread they 'know their sh1t' would in another compare the old fat drug addict Herbie Hide beat with the young peak undefeated Tucker Tyson fought. Do you have any concept of time? Age? Wear and tear?

'Lewis and Tyson were the same age when they fought' - Lewis was having only his second pro fight at the bottom of Tyson's undercard when Mike was 37-0 and king of the world. That you don't understand how certain fighters can put extra miles on the clock is illustrated here and in your hilarious attempt to sell Wlad's win over a dead Ray Mercer.

Maybe chill out on the hero worship of Tyson Fury as it's forcing you to make laughable arguments.

Yes, I have every concept of time. Lennox wasn't sat on the sofa whilst Mike was building his record. He was attending two Olympic games. The ones Mike couldn't quality for. I'd say Bowe in the final was much tougher opposition than anything Mike had faced at that time.

[THEBUTCH]

Mike did a lot more walking and Fury does a lot more talking.

When you fight demanding opposition as infrequently as Fury does, the mileage won't accumulate....however, neither will his standing in the history books.

[THEBUTCH]

As for Bowe....oh dear !

Yes, a truly scintillating win to claim the title from Holyfield, but then showed his colours by avoiding Lewis and then only two successful defences against possibly 2 of the worst title challengers in the history of the sport

Dokes & Ferguson should have been non-title fights they so were bad.