Hammer is a harder opponent, but the quality of the fight itself will probably drop. I mean, Sanchez could handle Negron fast and at least KO him spectacularly, while Hammer can survive better and he'll do it in a dull fashion.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑28 Dec 2021, 17:19 Frank Sanchez is no longer fighting Negron (COVID).
He’ll instead fight spoiler Christian Hammer.
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Re: Luis Ortiz vs. Charles Martin | FOX PPV - January 1, 2022
Press Conference Tonight
Re: Luis Ortiz vs. Charles Martin | FOX PPV - January 1, 2022
Available in the UK on FITE Tv. Price £10.99
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Re: Luis Ortiz vs. Charles Martin | FOX PPV - January 1, 2022
A show like this at 3am wouldn’t drive many viewers so networks won’t pay much, if anything, for it and PBC are too greedy to give it to a TV network for free to the hope that it builds the fighters a little more in the U.K.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑30 Dec 2021, 06:23Should be free, or via one of our existing sub plans on BN, or Premier Sports etc.
Imagine if DAZN could pick these cards up.
PBC would probably ask for too much anyway.
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Re: Luis Ortiz vs. Charles Martin | FOX PPV - January 1, 2022
No one cares about building profile anymore.maverick23 wrote: ↑30 Dec 2021, 09:35A show like this at 3am wouldn’t drive many viewers so networks won’t pay much, if anything, for it and PBC are too greedy to give it to a TV network for free to the hope that it builds the fighters a little more in the U.K.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑30 Dec 2021, 06:23Should be free, or via one of our existing sub plans on BN, or Premier Sports etc.
Imagine if DAZN could pick these cards up.
PBC would probably ask for too much anyway.
It's just money.
How many fans can we rinse and keep doing it.
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one thing this matchup has made me curious about, is how louis ortiz would look with charles martin dreadlocks
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Martin has said how twice negotiations broke down for him to fight Wilder.
Wilder don't want that smoke from the Prince.
Wilder don't want that smoke from the Prince.
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the negotiations broke down like prince charles woulda broke deontay down 
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Re: Luis Ortiz vs. Charles Martin | FOX PPV - January 1, 2022
Could this do buys…. On the one hand it’s trash, on the other it’s a close ish heavyweight card after a couple of weeks of no good boxing or ufc. Fuk all on the horizon, Uk has basicaly binned early year, bakole yoka gonee.
I’ll stream it cause it won’t be available in Australia, but this card is actualy pretty decent when compared to the 2 weeks prior and 2 weeks after.. .
I’ll stream it cause it won’t be available in Australia, but this card is actualy pretty decent when compared to the 2 weeks prior and 2 weeks after.. .
Re: Luis Ortiz vs. Charles Martin | FOX PPV - January 1, 2022
I hope Ortiz gets at least as much credit as AJ did beating Martin, especially at his age. I think he KOs Martin.
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lol ppl treated aj-martin as a joke, josh gets no credit at all for that win because of how easy it was 
would still be one of louis's very best wins though, better than his usual can crushes
would still be one of louis's very best wins though, better than his usual can crushes
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To be fair martins best actual win at the time was Joey Dawejeko (no offence mr Dwek).... and that remained his best win untill last year. Hard for someone with that kind of resume to be credited as an AJ opponent.margaret thatcher wrote: ↑30 Dec 2021, 20:17 lol ppl treated aj-martin as a joke, josh gets no credit at all for that win because of how easy it was
would still be one of louis's very best wins though, better than his usual can crushes![]()
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Re: Luis Ortiz vs. Charles Martin | FOX PPV - January 1, 2022
Hammer paying $10. charles martin by stoppage $5... Pretty juicey lil 50-1 accumulator/multi.
Franks shit, ortiz is old. just need hammer to want it, and ortiz to be clean...
Franks shit, ortiz is old. just need hammer to want it, and ortiz to be clean...
Re: Luis Ortiz vs. Charles Martin | FOX PPV - January 1, 2022
Big Frank "the Cuban flash" Sanchez is one of the most fluid, skilled HW's in the top 20. I know that's not really saying a lot, but he isn't sh*t either.gregregegg wrote: ↑30 Dec 2021, 21:50 Hammer paying $10. charles martin by stoppage $5... Pretty juicey lil 50-1 accumulator/multi.
Franks shit, ortiz is old. just need hammer to want it, and ortiz to be clean...
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Re: Luis Ortiz vs. Charles Martin | FOX PPV - January 1, 2022
betting anything on hammer to win is wasted money, id be hesistant to even bet on him winning a round. luis will be turning 217 next year though so who knows with him, chuck has a much better chance than chris does
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Re: Luis Ortiz vs. Charles Martin | FOX PPV - January 1, 2022
The Luis Ortiz hate looks rooted in racism or something. The fellow almost beat Wilder, has a win over David Allen and a bunch of other good fignters. He would surely smash the beloved princess Dillian Whyte as well as Anthony Joshua. The guy has a really good southpaw jab and a bunch of other good tools and is simply just ancient so his competing at this high leval at this age is something remarkable. As for the juicing everyone does that, I myself popped a couple of vials just now this morning as soon as I woke up, all joking aside the fellow is only 6"4, hardly a monsterously large heavyweight by todays standards and he is 42 years old so he gets a pass on any and all juicing that he does in my humble opinion.
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Re: Luis Ortiz vs. Charles Martin | FOX PPV - January 1, 2022
The Luis Ortiz hate looks rooted in racism or something. The fellow almost beat Wilder, has a win over David Allen and a bunch of other good fignters. He would surely smash the beloved princess Dillian Whyte as well as Anthony Joshua. The guy has a really good southpaw jab and a bunch of other good tools and is simply just ancient so his competing at this high leval at this age is something remarkable. As for the juicing everyone does that, I myself popped a couple of vials just now this morning as soon as I woke up, all joking aside the fellow is only 6"4, hardly a monsterously large heavyweight by todays standards and he is 42 years old so he gets a pass on any and all juicing that he does in my humble opinion.
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Re: Luis Ortiz vs. Charles Martin | FOX PPV - January 1, 2022
The Luis Ortiz hate looks rooted in racism or something. The fellow almost beat Wilder, has a win over David Allen and a bunch of other good fignters. He would surely smash the beloved princess Dillian Whyte as well as Anthony Joshua. The guy has a really good southpaw jab and a bunch of other good tools and is simply just ancient so his competing at this high leval at this age is something remarkable. As for the juicing everyone does that, I myself popped a couple of vials just now this morning as soon as I woke up, all joking aside the fellow is only 6"4, hardly a monsterously large heavyweight by todays standards and he is 42 years old so he gets a pass on any and all juicing that he does in my humble opinion.
Re: Luis Ortiz vs. Charles Martin | FOX PPV - January 1, 2022
Hate towards him is caused by him sticking to Wilder and the WBC, rejecting an offer of the Joshua shot and many other deals against top fighters, facing tomato cans instead and claiming that he was avoided.H8Usernames wrote: ↑31 Dec 2021, 04:26 The Luis Ortiz hate looks rooted in racism or something. The fellow almost beat Wilder, has a win over David Allen and a bunch of other good fignters. He would surely smash the beloved princess Dillian Whyte as well as Anthony Joshua. The guy has a really good southpaw jab and a bunch of other good tools and is simply just ancient so his competing at this high leval at this age is something remarkable. As for the juicing everyone does that, I myself popped a couple of vials just now this morning as soon as I woke up, all joking aside the fellow is only 6"4, hardly a monsterously large heavyweight by todays standards and he is 42 years old so he gets a pass on any and all juicing that he does in my humble opinion.
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I realise you’re being tongue-in-cheek with your remarks, but it’s hard to appreciate media hype jobs like Ortiz.
Luis Ortiz ducked Joshua, Whyte, Joyce, Wallin and Ustinov.
He looked deeply unimpressive during his bouts against the likes of Scott, Allen, Hammer and Kauffman.
Luis Ortiz’s team lies about his age, they lied about his amateur record (considering the fact he hasn’t won any truly meaningful tournaments), they lied about being low-balled by AJ, and they also constantly lie when they claim he’s being ducked.
Luis Ortiz has only won one fight within the last 39 months, requiring only 30 seconds of pugilistic action, with the Cuban landing only two punches.
His opponent in that fight temporarily had his purse withheld, because he quit claiming an injury to his eye, but the only punches the Cuban landed connected to the body and the bicep!
Luis Ortiz can only beat bums. It’s been more than six years since the Bryant Jennings fight.
Luis Ortiz has also tested positive for banned substances on two separate occasions.
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You lie and you are blind. The man is deeply talented. You can't see that? All this posting on boxing bulletinboards and you can't recognize talent?Enlightened-One wrote: ↑31 Dec 2021, 04:49I realise you’re being tongue-in-cheek with your remarks, but it’s hard to appreciate media hype jobs like Ortiz.
Luis Ortiz ducked Joshua, Whyte, Joyce, Wallin and Ustinov.
He looked deeply unimpressive during his bouts against the likes of Scott, Allen, Hammer and Kauffman.
Luis Ortiz’s team lies about his age, they lied about his amateur record (considering the fact he hasn’t won any truly meaningful tournaments), they lied about being low-balled by AJ, and they also constantly lie when they claim he’s being ducked.
Luis Ortiz has only won one fight within the last 39 months, requiring only 30 seconds of pugilistic action, with the Cuban landing only two punches.
His opponent in that fight temporarily had his purse withheld, because he quit claiming an injury to his eye, but the only punches the Cuban landed connected to the body and the bicep!
Luis Ortiz can only beat bums. It’s been more than six years since the Bryant Jennings fight.
Luis Ortiz has also tested positive for banned substances on two separate occasions.
Re: Luis Ortiz vs. Charles Martin | FOX PPV - January 1, 2022
PPV LOL ffs
you would need to pay me to watch this !
you would need to pay me to watch this !
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Re: Luis Ortiz vs. Charles Martin | FOX PPV - January 1, 2022
Ortiz was 243 all time high.
Looks like muscle and not lard, hope he's done his cardio
Looks like muscle and not lard, hope he's done his cardio