Manuel Charr vs. Trevor Bryan - WBA Ordered

Who wins?

Poll ended at 11 Feb 2022, 07:04

Charr - Decision
1
3%
Charr - T/KO
8
25%
DRAW
5
16%
Bryan - T/KO
7
22%
Bryan - Decision
11
34%
 
Total votes: 32

Perkin Warbeck
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Re: Manuel Charr vs. Trevor Bryan - WBA Ordered

Post by Perkin Warbeck »

I'd never heard of Jonathan Guidry until now, he's ranked #256 at heavyweight on BoxRec. The WBA is letting Trevor Bryan have a title defense against someone he can beat - and they had to dig low to find Guidry.
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Perkin Warbeck wrote: 04 Jan 2022, 13:38 I'd never heard of Jonathan Guidry until now, he's ranked #256 at heavyweight on BoxRec. The WBA is letting Trevor Bryan have a title defense against someone he can beat - and they had to dig low to find Guidry.
he was due to appear on the card already, but DKP must have then said to the WBA, get him in the top 15, so he can challenge Bryan.

I hope Guidry beats Bryan. :TU:
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never heard of him either, i see bryan beat him in the ams 10 years ago
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Late November 2021, Jonathan Guidry was scheduled to appear on the undercard of the January 29th Makabu-Mchunu event, which included the Bryan-Charr bout.

Jonathan Guidry was suddenly rated as the 13th best heavyweight fighter on the planet when the WBA released their December rankings (he was previously unrated).

For the record, Jonathan Guidry has fought five times within the last three years, with his opposition only having a combined total record of 52 wins from 112 fights.

All five opponents had tasted defeat in the vast majority of their preceding six bouts immediately prior to facing Jonathan Guidry (i.e. six wins from 30 fights).

Guidry is basically a white version Christopher Lovejoy, who was coincidentally promoted by Don King, and also weirdly benefited from an undeserved top-15 WBA world rating!

In my opinion, the WBA knew for certain that Don King wouldn’t allow Mahmoud Charr to face Trevor Bryan, because the timing of their weird decision to suddenly grant Jonathan Guidry a ludicrously undeserved world-rating seems far too convenient to be coincidental!

The WBA have allowed history to repeat itself, but the only person being “punished” (regardless as to whether you like or loathe him) is Mahmoud Charr.

What’s just happened can only be described as corruption!
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Re: Manuel Charr vs. Trevor Bryan - WBA Ordered

Post by gregregegg »

DDD needs to stay busy, As long as Don king has a part of that WBA reg belt, he should have zero faith in smooth sailing to get his shot. fight as if its not happening, if you get contracts signed then sure commit 10 weeks to it, but have a back up plan. Having Charr fucked about sucks, but if DDD lost a year it would be terrible.
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Re: Manuel Charr vs. Trevor Bryan - WBA Ordered

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Fingers crossed for a Guidry flash KO upset :lol:
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joshj909 wrote: 04 Jan 2022, 14:57 Fingers crossed for a Guidry flash KO upset :lol:
King will have options on him so it will be same stuff but with a different fighter.
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Post by margaret thatcher »

late replacement, unexpected title shot, out of nowhere challenger, good ol american boi with usa flag trunks

we got ourselves a rocky on our hands :oo
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Post by Enlightened-One »

Ruthless-RKO wrote: 04 Jan 2022, 13:44 I hope Guidry beats Bryan. :TU:
Aren’t Bryan and Guidry both Don King fighters?

He doesn’t lose whatever the outcome.

A better solution would be for both guys to fail drug tests, and receive bans.
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Jonathan Guidry has worked long and hard for this opportunity and to think, in just a few days time he could be the heavyweight champion of the world.
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Jonathan Guidry (17-0-2, 10KOs), an unbeaten but largely unproven heavyweight who has magically appeared in the top 15 of the most recent WBA rankings released at the start of the new year.

:lol: you can't make this crap up. He is 5'11'' and that is probably an exaggeration, and has never fought for any org title, interim, area, nothing. He lost to Trevor Bryan in the Ams.
It's like they sent the team who found Wilders first 25 opponents out and they came up with this guy.
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margaret thatcher wrote: 04 Jan 2022, 17:30
Nice tits!
He is an obese middle weight.
This is going to be stupid.
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Post by Ruthless-RKO »

Joshua dropped to #5

The WBA’s rankings for January 2022:

1. Daniel Dubois
2. Michael Hunter
3. Robert Helenius
4. Hughie Fury
5. Anthony Joshua
6. Deontay Wilder
7. Agit Kabayel
8. Arslanbek Makhmudov
9. Zhan Kossobutskiy
10. Martin Bakole
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 05 Jan 2022, 07:09 Joshua dropped to #5

The WBA’s rankings for January 2022:

1. Daniel Dubois
2. Michael Hunter
3. Robert Helenius
4. Hughie Fury
5. Anthony Joshua
6. Deontay Wilder
7. Agit Kabayel
8. Arslanbek Makhmudov
9. Zhan Kossobutskiy
10. Martin Bakole
AJ at 5 isn't even the worst of that disaster of a rankings. :lol:
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Post by margaret thatcher »

its actually not even that bad compared to some divisions, these rankings are usually loaded with total randos ive never even heard of :oo
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 05 Jan 2022, 07:09 Joshua dropped to #5

The WBA’s rankings for January 2022:

1. Daniel Dubois
2. Michael Hunter
3. Robert Helenius
4. Hughie Fury
5. Anthony Joshua
6. Deontay Wilder
7. Agit Kabayel
8. Arslanbek Makhmudov
9. Zhan Kossobutskiy
10. Martin Bakole
Can someone explain to me what Dubois has done to deserve a #1 rating?
Or for that matter what has he done to deserve to be a top 10 contender?

Only 2 of those fighters deserve to be in the top 10 on that list. And both are coming off losses. These ratings are the worst
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Re: Manuel Charr vs. Trevor Bryan - WBA Ordered

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Bryan: Sorry That Charr Can't Make It For The Second Time But The Show Must Go On

Trevor Bryan was never concerned with anything other than making his way to the ring on January 29.

On that note, the unbeaten secondary WBA heavyweight titlist couldn’t be more grateful that Jonathan Guidry rose to the occasion when an opponent was needed once plans fell through for a rescheduled fight with Mahmoud Charr. The other side of Bryan, however, was left to feel as if there remains unresolved business.

“Of course. I’m a fighter,” Bryan confessed of the letdown that came with Charr dropping out of a planned fight for the second straight year. “When my promoter and manager say this is my next fight and who I’m fighting, all I can do is prepare and get ready for that. All the other fighting outside the ring is what my promoter and manager does.

“I’m sorry that [Charr] can’t make it for the second time. I’m sorry for that but the show must go on.”

The show will go on, with Bryan (21-0, 15KOs) making the first defense of his title on a Don King-distributed Pay-Per-View event (iTube247.com, SRP $49.95) from Packard Music Hall in Warren, Ohio. For the second time in exactly one year, Bryan saw an ordered fight with Charr fall by the wayside over a visa issue preventing the Germany-based Turkish heavyweight from traveling to the U.S.

With that came the elevation of Louisiana’s Guidry (17-0-2, 10KOs) from the undercard, agreeing to take the fight on short notice to salvage the evening’s co-feature attraction.

“I have a strong opponent, a replacement who’s 17-0 with two draws,” notes Bryan, who won the vacant WBA “World” titlist following an eleventh-round stoppage of former WBC titlist Bermane Stiverne last January. “I have to continue what Trevor Bryan does best. Whoever else they put in there with me in the future, I can’t think about what should have happened. I’m thinking about who’s next and ready to go.”

Little footage is available on the relatively obscure Guidry, whose entire career has taken place within a four-hour radius of his Dulac, Louisiana hometown. Much like who is standing in the opposite corner on fight night, the absence of fight film is of little concern to the unbeaten Schenectady, New York native.

“I sat down and watched a few times with the couple of fights he had. We don’t really worry about what other opponents do,” insists Bryan. “We worry about what the dream team does best. I have my key (sparring partners) that I use for every fight and plan to capitalize on that, continue to work hard and get this win I need to get on the 29th.”

Headlining the January 29 PPV event, WBC cruiserweight titlist Ilunga ‘Junior’ Makabu (28-2, 25KOs) faces Thabiso Mchunu (23-5, 13KOs) in a mandatory title fight and rematch to their May 2015 clash, which Makabu won via eleventh-round stoppage in Durban, KwaZulu-Natal, South Africa.
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The WBA thinks Jonathan Guidry is better than Joseph Parker and Tony Yoka! :lol:

Fantastic! :TU:
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Enlightened-One wrote: 25 Jan 2022, 12:42 The WBA thinks Jonathan Guidry is better than Joseph Parker and Tony Yoka! :lol:

Fantastic! :TU:
Guidry obviously deserves it.

I've always felt the WBA regular/interim seems like it's another dimension. The boxers WBA pull outta their asses.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 25 Jan 2022, 12:46
Enlightened-One wrote: 25 Jan 2022, 12:42 The WBA thinks Jonathan Guidry is better than Joseph Parker and Tony Yoka! :lol:

Fantastic! :TU:
Guidry obviously deserves it.

I've always felt the WBA regular/interim seems like it's another dimension. The boxers WBA pull outta their asses.
Literally.
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ironbeard wrote: 25 Jan 2022, 15:49
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 25 Jan 2022, 12:46
Enlightened-One wrote: 25 Jan 2022, 12:42 The WBA thinks Jonathan Guidry is better than Joseph Parker and Tony Yoka! :lol:

Fantastic! :TU:
Guidry obviously deserves it.

I've always felt the WBA regular/interim seems like it's another dimension. The boxers WBA pull outta their asses.
Literally.
Glad I’m Not the only one.

Just feels like a different universe. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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KiwiRider wrote: 05 Jan 2022, 04:29
margaret thatcher wrote: 04 Jan 2022, 17:30
Nice tits!
He is an obese middle weight.
This is going to be stupid.
In all fairness this was 7 years ago and only his second pro fight after only a few amateur bouts. He has improved. He is far from world class but he is not this fighter anymore
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tiny_acres wrote: 25 Jan 2022, 17:17
KiwiRider wrote: 05 Jan 2022, 04:29
margaret thatcher wrote: 04 Jan 2022, 17:30
Nice tits!
He is an obese middle weight.
This is going to be stupid.
In all fairness this was 7 years ago and only his second pro fight after only a few amateur bouts. He has improved. He is far from world class but he is not this fighter anymore
Time does not change his size. He is middle weight size is what I was getting at.
As for his cup size, we will have to see.
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Re: Manuel Charr vs. Trevor Bryan - WBA Ordered

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KiwiRider wrote: 25 Jan 2022, 17:21
tiny_acres wrote: 25 Jan 2022, 17:17
KiwiRider wrote: 05 Jan 2022, 04:29

Nice tits!
He is an obese middle weight.
This is going to be stupid.
In all fairness this was 7 years ago and only his second pro fight after only a few amateur bouts. He has improved. He is far from world class but he is not this fighter anymore
Time does not change his size. He is middle weight size is what I was getting at.
As for his cup size, we will have to see.
Sorry I do agree he is an obese oompa loompa lookin muthfukcer.
Should be no more than 175
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