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Why don't you count the Sullivan-McCaffery fight as the first "modern" HW title fight since it was the inaugural MoQ HW title fight? And there were others that Sullivan fought as well prior to the Corbett fight.pundit wrote:Well, this depends on how you view boxing pre-Queensberry. For me modern boxing starts with the Queensberry rules, and the first modern heavyweight titlefight was Sullivan-Corbett. The bareknuckle stuff was a precursor to modern boxing. Toughman compeititions and some other recent inventions (cage fighting etc.) breath a bit the spirit of these pre-modern times.
Fine, Sullivan-McCaffery then. I have no strong passions about this. But you're right that there were notably fights under the Queensberry rules some years before Sullivan-Corbett; including also Corbett-Choynksi or Corbett-Jackson. In fact, both could legitly be added to the original list.The Great John L wrote:Why don't you count the Sullivan-McCaffery fight as the first "modern" HW title fight since it was the inaugural MoQ HW title fight? And there were others that Sullivan fought as well prior to the Corbett fight.pundit wrote:Well, this depends on how you view boxing pre-Queensberry. For me modern boxing starts with the Queensberry rules, and the first modern heavyweight titlefight was Sullivan-Corbett. The bareknuckle stuff was a precursor to modern boxing. Toughman compeititions and some other recent inventions (cage fighting etc.) breath a bit the spirit of these pre-modern times.
I didn’t mean that Sullivan-McCaffery should be added to a list of great HW fights, but that Corbett-Sullivan was not the first MoQ HW titlefight. That was, I believe, Sullivan-McCaffery.pundit wrote:Fine, Sullivan-McCaffery then. I have no strong passions about this. But you're right that there were notably fights under the Queensberry rules some years before Sullivan-Corbett; including also Corbett-Choynksi or Corbett-Jackson. In fact, both could legitly be added to the original list.
Typical juvenile, low mentality response:pundit wrote:If we add Sullivan-Kilrain, we should seriously think about also including Molineaux-Cribb or Mendoza-Humphries.
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Write about boxing instead of how much you hate people prove them wrong if they are wrong don't just sitt there and bash them it is getting old.granberry wrote:Typical juvenile, low mentality response:pundit wrote:If we add Sullivan-Kilrain, we should seriously think about also including Molineaux-Cribb or Mendoza-Humphries.
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If you don't know punkit is totally ignorant of earlier boxing he expresses such antagonism for, that is your problem.Thunder and Lightning wrote:Write about boxing instead of how much you hate people prove them wrong if they are wrong don't just sitt there and bash them it is getting old.granberry wrote:Typical juvenile, low mentality response:pundit wrote:If we add Sullivan-Kilrain, we should seriously think about also including Molineaux-Cribb or Mendoza-Humphries.
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