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592073
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Hello,

Does anyone know of an "expanded" view of the boxer information on BoxRec that can be downloaded into a CSV?

For a school project I wanted to look at boxers data and organize the information into categories like nationality/division, Height&reach/division, height&reach/nationality, etc.

The ratings page in boxrec.com has some info, but not all of it, so I was wondering if there was an expanded database that could be downloaded,
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Cut and paste into excel and create a database. A bit of effort.
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Depending on the nature of the class and the project, you could always just manually key-in some fake heights and reaches.

By the way, if you aren't already aware of this, you should look into how pivot tables work.
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592073 wrote: 08 Jan 2022, 18:24 Hello,

Does anyone know of an "expanded" view of the boxer information on BoxRec that can be downloaded into a CSV?

For a school project I wanted to look at boxers data and organize the information into categories like nationality/division, Height&reach/division, height&reach/nationality, etc.

The ratings page in boxrec.com has some info, but not all of it, so I was wondering if there was an expanded database that could be downloaded,
You picked the worst subject to try to do this for. There will be no easy way to do this unless you can find someone that runs this website to give you the data, which might not be an easy feat. BoxRec would be the best place to do this, but their data isn't public. I also think web scraping it is against the terms of use.

I would say your best bet, if you know how to use Python, is to use Wikipedia's RESTful API. I did a very quick job on Usyk.

class="infobox-label">Height</th><td class="infobox-data">6 ft 3 in (191 cm)<sup id="cite_ref-stats2018_2-0" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-stats2018-2">[2]</a></sup></td></tr><tr><th scope="row" class="infobox-label">Reach</th><td class="infobox-data">78 in (198 cm)</td></tr><tr><th scope="row" class="infobox-label">Nationality</th><td class="infobox-data">Ukrainian</td></tr><tr><th scope="row" class="infobox-label">Born</th><td class="infobox-data"><span style="display:none">

The infobox-data would have everything you need, which includes the natationality, weight class, height, and reach. You can see some of it in the code above. There is some CSS/HTML code that gets in the way, though, but as long as you have the line, you can easily use regular expression to only grab the data then save it into a series of lists that you merge together into a Pandas data frame then export the data frame into a CSV file when you have all the data you need or just export them boxer-by-boxer then just merge it all back at the end.

If you don't know anything about Python or XML, your best bet is to just do a copy/paste job or ask the BoxRec admins for help.
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592073 wrote: 08 Jan 2022, 18:24 Hello,

Does anyone know of an "expanded" view of the boxer information on BoxRec that can be downloaded into a CSV?

For a school project I wanted to look at boxers data and organize the information into categories like nationality/division, Height&reach/division, height&reach/nationality, etc.

The ratings page in boxrec.com has some info, but not all of it, so I was wondering if there was an expanded database that could be downloaded,
You won’t be given access to that information.

It’s pointless asking. It’s actually silly (to the point of being hideously moronic) to think you’d receive this information for free.

The information contained within the BoxRec website is worth a lot of money.

The owners aren’t just going to grant anyone with read access to its database.

The best you can do is use Excel macros to acquire the information in tue relevant format.
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Unless your school project topic is mandated as boxing (unlikely) then I’d strongly suggest picking one of the literally millions of free datasets around the internet which you can easily download to csv/xlsx for free.
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Yeah, agreed with that. There are API's for other sports, especially NFL. Typically, they even have it all in nice .CSV format for you. What you're asking is not difficult, but it'll take time to learn Wikipedia's API system. It's kind of convoluted, and I doubt a high schooler will be able to pay my going rate. That's if I could be asked to drop my own work and help you out, of course, which is a negative even if you could pay.

Anyways, best of luck with your high school project, but I think you should maybe try MMA websites if you really want to do a project with a fighter's reach and nationality. I've read that most of the data there is open-source, but I've not checked.

Of course, you could always try copy/paste into an Excel spreadsheet. I don't think a high school project would require more than 100 fighters, honestly. At worst, a random sample of 30 fighters (probably from the top 100) from each division would be more than sufficient if you were my student. It aligns, albeit controversially, with the central limit theorem so you could do parametric statistics on it. I'm unsure what you're trying to do other than make a fancy pivot table from the sound of it.
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Mexi-Box wrote: 09 Jan 2022, 01:01
592073 wrote: 08 Jan 2022, 18:24 Hello,

Does anyone know of an "expanded" view of the boxer information on BoxRec that can be downloaded into a CSV?

For a school project I wanted to look at boxers data and organize the information into categories like nationality/division, Height&reach/division, height&reach/nationality, etc.

The ratings page in boxrec.com has some info, but not all of it, so I was wondering if there was an expanded database that could be downloaded,
You picked the worst subject to try to do this for. There will be no easy way to do this unless you can find someone that runs this website to give you the data, which might not be an easy feat. BoxRec would be the best place to do this, but their data isn't public. I also think web scraping it is against the terms of use.

I would say your best bet, if you know how to use Python, is to use Wikipedia's RESTful API. I did a very quick job on Usyk.

class="infobox-label">Height</th><td class="infobox-data">6 ft 3 in (191 cm)<sup id="cite_ref-stats2018_2-0" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-stats2018-2">[2]</a></sup></td></tr><tr><th scope="row" class="infobox-label">Reach</th><td class="infobox-data">78 in (198 cm)</td></tr><tr><th scope="row" class="infobox-label">Nationality</th><td class="infobox-data">Ukrainian</td></tr><tr><th scope="row" class="infobox-label">Born</th><td class="infobox-data"><span style="display:none">

The infobox-data would have everything you need, which includes the natationality, weight class, height, and reach. You can see some of it in the code above. There is some CSS/HTML code that gets in the way, though, but as long as you have the line, you can easily use regular expression to only grab the data then save it into a series of lists that you merge together into a Pandas data frame then export the data frame into a CSV file when you have all the data you need or just export them boxer-by-boxer then just merge it all back at the end.

If you don't know anything about Python or XML, your best bet is to just do a copy/paste job or ask the BoxRec admins for help.
This is probably my best bet. Thank you.
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Thanks, everyone

I was hoping to be able to accomplish my data analysis project by using one of my favorite sports--boxing. I understand now that it won't be that easy.
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I’d recommend taking a look at this link if you’re looking for ideas on what to base your project on, hundreds of easily downloadable files on a wide range of random topics. It’s widely used by people practicing data analysis / visualisations, I used to use it a lot for Tableau practice

https://www.makeovermonday.co.uk/data/
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592073 wrote: 08 Jan 2022, 18:24 Hello,

Does anyone know of an "expanded" view of the boxer information on BoxRec that can be downloaded into a CSV?

For a school project I wanted to look at boxers data and organize the information into categories like nationality/division, Height&reach/division, height&reach/nationality, etc.

The ratings page in boxrec.com has some info, but not all of it, so I was wondering if there was an expanded database that could be downloaded,
Nice to see there are still dedicated young boxing fans out there in amongst the cluster of other sports now available.
I can't really give any further help from what others have mentioned, but good luck with your project. 👍🏻

PS as for the poster who labled your innocent question as 'hideously moronic', he's one of the biggest morons on here who quite regularly gets his bum smacked. Ignore him. :TU:
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Agreed with the above. Boxing just isn't as popular as something like the NLF/CFB. They have tons of publicly available data and algorithms for that sport. It's epically stupid that a promotional body or sanctioning body hasn't been keeping their records or data, to my knowledge. Something like that would help immensely with rankings and scoutings. It just seems like no one cares enough to create a public-facing database because BoxRec does it already, and of course, it's outright hostile to anyone trying to get their data--from what I've read.

As a last resort, it will cost money, but you can try the Compubox website. They have official punchstats, and they might have height and reach in addition to their tallies. They also allow people to download their data, but of course, you have to pay for it. I'm unsure how much they charge too.
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I found my Grandfather's profile, Harry Keith Holmes, on BoxRec website. He was a professional boxer out of OH in the late 1920s and throughout the 30s. Wasn't anyone special. A record of 7-8-3 with a no contest but he earned a living and took care of 2 families (my grandmother was his 2nd wife, unfortunately he never divorced the first or told her that he had another wife and 5
children with her but being a professional fighter and pro wrestler, Clown Holmes after boxing career ended was great profession to have if you have a secret family. We just found out 3 yrs ago that he had an entire other family and he passed away in the early 80s. We were actually the secret fam since he married my grandmother second but I'm getting sidetracked.) As interesting as I find his life and story I'm sure nobody else care's so back to my reason for posting. Is there any way for me to add his picture to his profile. My mother has a picture of him in his prime that would really bring his profile to life. Thank you for allowing my post and any feedback would be greatly appreciated. I'm only recently learning about my family history and trying to find out about my direct relatives and my grandfather has turned out to be pretty awesome for his story. Not a great or even good man but a pro fighter turned pro wrestler that decided to drink himself to death when his body couldn't take it anymore rather than settle down. But in his prime a great looking 1920s professional boxer whose picture would set his profile at boxrec.com off if there's any way for me to add it.
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1044029 wrote: 24 Jun 2022, 10:30 I found my Grandfather's profile, Harry Keith Holmes, on BoxRec website. He was a professional boxer out of OH in the late 1920s and throughout the 30s. Wasn't anyone special. A record of 7-8-3 with a no contest but he earned a living and took care of 2 families (my grandmother was his 2nd wife, unfortunately he never divorced the first or told her that he had another wife and 5
children with her but being a professional fighter and pro wrestler, Clown Holmes after boxing career ended was great profession to have if you have a secret family. We just found out 3 yrs ago that he had an entire other family and he passed away in the early 80s. We were actually the secret fam since he married my grandmother second but I'm getting sidetracked.) As interesting as I find his life and story I'm sure nobody else care's so back to my reason for posting. Is there any way for me to add his picture to his profile. My mother has a picture of him in his prime that would really bring his profile to life. Thank you for allowing my post and any feedback would be greatly appreciated. I'm only recently learning about my family history and trying to find out about my direct relatives and my grandfather has turned out to be pretty awesome for his story. Not a great or even good man but a pro fighter turned pro wrestler that decided to drink himself to death when his body couldn't take it anymore rather than settle down. But in his prime a great looking 1920s professional boxer whose picture would set his profile at boxrec.com off if there's any way for me to add it.
Just send it to [email protected], we’ll add it. Any additional biographical info is welcome too: date/place of birth, date of death etc.
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