Anthony Joshua reveals how Tyson Fury taunt helped cause Oleksandr Usyk defeat!

[thereverend]

Lippy Durocher said 'Nice guys finish last' and Joshua acts like a nice guy. Strange that he doesn't understand how dumb these sort of statements sound. 'Practiced his boxing' for 12 rounds? Did he show up for a spar and get tricked into fighting a world title fight? If he wasn't trying to kill Usyk, knock his head off, then he's in the wrong sport. The truth is he boxed a hell of a fight, fought his heart out and lost. There's no shame in that.

These kind of statements are bad for his legacy, make him seem like an amateur. The truth is that he's a boxer, he can box, better then a lot of other heavyweights. His stamina is his weakest point actually. When people look back at his career they'll come back to statements like this. If he doesn't win another title, wrack up a few more big wins, it'll be hard to argue he's a hall of famer or an all time great..

[dan28uk]

he brutally ko'd whyte in a brawl actually

if he shouldn't be more aggressive, what should he do?

whyte did put his shoulder out in that fight might it turned out different might not

[Jason Calara]

It is fine to be methodical but being tentative is different. Joshua was very tentative and looks slow both on hands and feet vs USYK that night..
Joshua needs to improve his stamina and timing. Joshua can take the punch of USYK, but Joshua was not able to give his best punch, if he was able to do that, Joshua will have a good chance.

[oogiebe]

It is clear from the beginning of the fight that AJ is a good boxer but USYK is better. Forget what other people have said, what others are saying and will say. Go back to the drawing with a clear mind. Study your opponent, train and come ready and get the W.

No sir. AJ proved otherwise. He isn't a good boxer. He's a decent fighter.

[lazboy]

It is clear from the beginning of the fight that AJ is a good boxer but USYK is better. Forget what other people have said, what others are saying and will say. Go back to the drawing with a clear mind. Study your opponent, train and come ready and get the W.

No sir. AJ proved otherwise. He isn't a good boxer. He's a decent fighter.

As much as AJ looks awkward, upright and limited, I still believe he’s a good boxer and agree with Calara. He also has tremendous power.

[Jason Calara]

That is precisely my point. AJ has power, he can handle the best punches of USYK but AJ was not able to land his best punches. For AJ to do that, he needs to do his homework, more jabs and added footwork, AJ needs stamina and timing. Otherwise, it will be a long night for AJ.

[adislav123]

aj 'handling' usyk's best punches is a very arguable assumption.

first he'd have to try to step into striking distance and be first at throwing anything potentially damaging himself and not airjabbing & shadowboxing for 12 rounds.

why not start with a stiff fully extended jab he actually steps into and see how it goes from there.

his measured, gunshy approach of zero aggression won't win him shit against any of the 'top guys' if they come to win, no matter who.

somehow aj has to crack thru that safety first shell he got himself caught up after his ruiz 1 trauma.

he always had a phlegma to overcome but now it's like PTSD. i doubt he can overcome that. i might be wrong.

[adislav123]

only when buzzed, then his survival instinct kicks in and he actually 'fights'.

[lazboy]

That is precisely my point. AJ has power, he can handle the best punches of USYK but AJ was not able to land his best punches. For AJ to do that, he needs to do his homework, more jabs and added footwork, AJ needs stamina and timing. Otherwise, it will be a long night for AJ.

I actually don’t think he can beat Usyk for the record. What I agreed with was that AJ is a good boxer. He showed that against Parker, Ruiz 2 and Pulev. He showed his power punching ability against Vlad, Povetkin and many others.

[Thomastearns]

AJ fights stiff and upright. He ain't Chisora, Whyte or Andy Ruiz jr to brawl. AJ is gonna get countered in flurries by Usyk. Actually AJ is the most tailor made type of hw for Usyk.

But as I said, big props to AJ for taking risky opponents like Usyk.

This is AJs main problem.

He's stylistically perfect for Usyk.

As things stand.

Joshua should get far more credit for taking on his mandatories.

Just how many mandatories has Fury taken on?

[margaret thatcher]

well, fury has made 0 mandatory defenses and 1 title defense (vs a guy he'd fought twice)............but every time he takes a dump his bois count it as another lineal defense in the big

and he recently went on a rant about usyk and aj, that counts as 2 more lineal title defenses

lineal. lineal lineal. lineal!

[oogiebe]

well, fury has made 0 mandatory defenses and 1 title defense (vs a guy he'd fought twice)............but every time he takes a dump his bois count it as another lineal defense in the big

and he recently went on a rant about usyk and aj, that counts as 2 more lineal title defenses

lineal. lineal lineal. lineal!

No need to defend your belt when...

Fury would beat Usyk
Fury would beat Ali
Fury would beat...

[margaret thatcher]

[ironbeard]

I think that AJ has a reasonable chance if he goes after the kill early. He can and will hurt Usyk if he lands. If he fails to get him out of there within 5, or at least hurt Usyk enough to put him on his bike the rest of the way, AJ will likely be stopped around 9.

[margaret thatcher]

ya a good start is key for aj

[lazboy]

ya a good start is key for aj

But what if he plays possum for the first 10 rounds...takes the rounds off saving his energy, pretending to be outclassed, pretending to be fatigued and mentally broken. AJs corner is yelling at him: "Brilliant work AJ, brilliant!" - just so Usyk's corner doesn't get suspicious. Then all of a sudden in rd 11, just when Usyk thinks he has it in the bag, AJ explodes. He throws a endless barrage of uppercuts, you know the ones he used against Wlad, and catches Usyk off guard and tired. He KO's Usyk.

In the post fight interview AJ reveals that when he was 17 years of age someone on MSN chat said boxers are not effective with huge muscles, poor stamina, an upright stance, and heavy slow weird footwork. AJ explained that he wanted to prove that person wrong and decided to ignore his natural fighting style in place of this new style. AJ explains that he's a changed man. He was always trying to prove something but those days are now over and the real AJ is here and the only person he needs to prove something to is himself, and Eddie Hearn, and Eddie Hearns dad, and Tyson Fury…

[Counter-puncher]

I think that AJ has a reasonable chance if he goes after the kill early. He can and will hurt Usyk if he lands. If he fails to get him out of there within 5, or at least hurt Usyk enough to put him on his bike the rest of the way, AJ will likely be stopped around 9.

i think the first time he misses with a big shot and all the energy drains out of those big muscles all the mental demons from knowing how badly Usyk out-skills him will return and he'll be as tentative as ever. I don't think we're ever seeing 'AJ the Killer' again any more than we're seeing a fit focussed trim Tyson Fury.

[ironbeard]

I think that AJ has a reasonable chance if he goes after the kill early. He can and will hurt Usyk if he lands. If he fails to get him out of there within 5, or at least hurt Usyk enough to put him on his bike the rest of the way, AJ will likely be stopped around 9.

i think the first time he misses with a big shot and all the energy drains out of those big muscles all the mental demons from knowing how badly Usyk out-skills him will return and he'll be as tentative as ever. I don't think we're ever seeing 'AJ the Killer' again any more than we're seeing a fit focussed trim Tyson Fury.

I tend to agree. That seems to have been stolen from him by Ruiz Jr.. But, he did what he had to do to rectify that loss, and he possesses the tools to do the same here.

Will he manage it? Unlikely. However, I think that too many are giving him too little respect for what he has done in the past. He can absolutely stop Usyk.

[IRONFIST]

Joshua's best chance is to fight dirty and hope for a cuts stoppage win.

[ironbeard]

AJ can 100% ktfo Usyk. He will have to go do or die to have a chance to do so.

Usyk does not have an iron beard at HW.

[margaret thatcher]

ya a good start is key for aj

But what if he plays possum for the first 10 rounds...takes the rounds off saving his energy, pretending to be outclassed, pretending to be fatigued and mentally broken. AJs corner is yelling at him: "Brilliant work AJ, brilliant!" - just so Usyk's corner doesn't get suspicious. Then all of a sudden in rd 11, just when Usyk thinks he has it in the bag, AJ explodes. He throws a endless barrage of uppercuts, you know the ones he used against Wlad, and catches Usyk off guard and tired. He KO's Usyk.

In the post fight interview AJ reveals that when he was 17 years of age someone on MSN chat said boxers are not effective with huge muscles, poor stamina, an upright stance, and heavy slow weird footwork. AJ explained that he wanted to prove that person wrong and decided to ignore his natural fighting style in place of this new style. AJ explains that he's a changed man. He was always trying to prove something but those days are now over and the real AJ is here and the only person he needs to prove something to is himself, and Eddie Hearn, and Eddie Hearns dad, and Tyson Fury…

well actually now that you say it, maybe his strategy should be to place one cornerman right next to each judge and have them yell 'BRILLIANT AJ' in their ear constantly, to brainwash them

[splashitallover]

If Joshua wants a chance at not just being a belt holder, but being the Lineal Champion too, why does he not just forget the rematch clause (As Usyk likely beats him again!) and tell Eddie to make the Fury fight asap. Fury needs an opponent as Whyte cries over his purse, Joshua could slip in and go for the lineal belt and the WBC strap he has never held. That writes his legacy............

[Enlightened-One]

Whilst I personally have my doubts about AJ’s chances of avenging the Usyk loss, it does surprise me to see so many people completely writing him off.

I really do hope all this scepticism translates in Usyk being regarded as the overwhelming betting favourite, resulting in the consensus opinion considering the AJ rematch as a mismatch.

For sure, even though I feel Usyk beats AJ again in a more competitive bout than their previous affair, I sincerely believe there’s a strong possibility of an upset, which will inevitably compel me to place a decent-sized bet on the underdog.

You don’t really profit from placing bets on huge betting favourites in boxing, hence the reason why I’m enjoying the recent trend of the betting websites wrongly perceiving competitive bouts as one-sided mismatches.

[margaret thatcher]

ya, looks like one to predict a usyk win but bet on aj

[Evander]

Joshua has become an almighty pain in the ass, I don't particularly like him very much anymore.
His organization has made it pretty clear they have no problem with employing former drug dealers like Joshua and racists like Devin Haney as long as it makes money for them.
It's a very odd business model to say the least.