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We’re half way through January now and not one show announced yet on BT.

Frank seemed to jump the gun by saying he wasn’t doing any shows for February because British Boxing refused to sanction shows in January. I don’t quite get why he did that but even still what’s he waiting for in announcing March shows?

Surely the sooner they’re announced, the quicker they start getting tickets sold and can start pushing them?!
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Need to know that paramedics and doctors are available. Once that is sorted, shows will be announced.
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589555 wrote: 15 Jan 2022, 11:21 Need to know that paramedics and doctors are available. Once that is sorted, shows will be announced.
Matchrooms announced they Q1 shows..
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 15 Jan 2022, 11:23
589555 wrote: 15 Jan 2022, 11:21 Need to know that paramedics and doctors are available. Once that is sorted, shows will be announced.
Matchrooms announced they Q1 shows..
Maybe Matchroom are content to rely on their crystal ball. There are people with broken legs waiting over 12 hours for ambulances at the moment. People with anaphylaxis dying from waiting four hours for an ambulance.
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589555 wrote: 15 Jan 2022, 11:21 Need to know that paramedics and doctors are available. Once that is sorted, shows will be announced.
Sky, DAZN, MTK all have shows planned and lined up.

Why not get them announced and then cancel if needed if that’s his concern?
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589555 wrote: 15 Jan 2022, 11:21 Need to know that paramedics and doctors are available. Once that is sorted, shows will be announced.
There are always docs and paras happy to earn some extra money.
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March 19th - headlined by Dubois and Avanesyan also apparently on the card, and neither have an opponent sorted. I don’t know what’s going on with Warren, but things are looking very iffy at the moment.
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Manchester Hitman wrote: 15 Jan 2022, 18:26 March 19th - headlined by Dubois and Avanesyan also apparently on the card, and neither have an opponent sorted. I don’t know what’s going on with Warren, but things are looking very iffy at the moment.
It is what it is, he's got a limited budget and limited amount of talent.
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595179 wrote: 15 Jan 2022, 18:57
Manchester Hitman wrote: 15 Jan 2022, 18:26 March 19th - headlined by Dubois and Avanesyan also apparently on the card, and neither have an opponent sorted. I don’t know what’s going on with Warren, but things are looking very iffy at the moment.
It is what it is, he's got a limited budget and limited amount of talent.
He's got Fury, Joyce, Dubois, Yarde, Parker, McCann, Sheraz, plus many more. That's 3 of the top ten heavyweights plus two number one contenders. Easily the best stable in Britain.
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mickey1975 wrote: 15 Jan 2022, 19:35
595179 wrote: 15 Jan 2022, 18:57
Manchester Hitman wrote: 15 Jan 2022, 18:26 March 19th - headlined by Dubois and Avanesyan also apparently on the card, and neither have an opponent sorted. I don’t know what’s going on with Warren, but things are looking very iffy at the moment.
It is what it is, he's got a limited budget and limited amount of talent.
He's got Fury, Joyce, Dubois, Yarde, Parker, McCann, Sheraz, plus many more. That's 3 of the top ten heavyweights plus two number one contenders. Easily the best stable in Britain.
Why do you always defend Fwank? Serious question.
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595179 wrote: 15 Jan 2022, 19:46
mickey1975 wrote: 15 Jan 2022, 19:35
595179 wrote: 15 Jan 2022, 18:57
It is what it is, he's got a limited budget and limited amount of talent.
He's got Fury, Joyce, Dubois, Yarde, Parker, McCann, Sheraz, plus many more. That's 3 of the top ten heavyweights plus two number one contenders. Easily the best stable in Britain.
Why do you always defend Fwank? Serious question.
I'm stating facts. Name five better fighters in any stable in the UK.
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mickey1975 wrote: 15 Jan 2022, 20:14
595179 wrote: 15 Jan 2022, 19:46
mickey1975 wrote: 15 Jan 2022, 19:35
He's got Fury, Joyce, Dubois, Yarde, Parker, McCann, Sheraz, plus many more. That's 3 of the top ten heavyweights plus two number one contenders. Easily the best stable in Britain.
Why do you always defend Fwank? Serious question.
I'm stating facts. Name five better fighters in any stable in the UK.
Well, for starters, Uncle Bob pays Fury's cheques, not Frank. The last time Frank picked up the tab was in Ireland against Pianeta and that was a loooooong time ago. The best you could possibly hope to connect Frank any of the fights since would be advisor.



I'll bite and say........

AJ (#2 at HW)
Okolie (#4 at CW)
Callum Smith (#1 at MW) Yarde #11
BJS (#2 at SMW) or John Ruder (#4 at SMW) Parker #14
Liam Smith (#5 at SWW)


After that, you're just dreaming man, have a whisky and go to bed.
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who promotes usyk?
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margaret thatcher wrote: 15 Jan 2022, 20:35 who promotes usyk?
Eddie had a 50+% stake until after the Joshua fight.
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595179 wrote: 15 Jan 2022, 20:34
mickey1975 wrote: 15 Jan 2022, 20:14
595179 wrote: 15 Jan 2022, 19:46

Why do you always defend Fwank? Serious question.
I'm stating facts. Name five better fighters in any stable in the UK.
Well, for starters, Uncle Bob pays Fury's cheques, not Frank. The last time Frank picked up the tab was in Ireland against Pianeta and that was a loooooong time ago. The best you could possibly hope to connect Frank any of the fights since would be advisor.



I'll bite and say........

AJ (#2 at HW)
Okolie (#4 at CW)
Callum Smith (#1 at MW) Yarde #11
BJS (#2 at SMW) or John Ruder (#4 at SMW) Parker #14
Liam Smith (#5 at SWW)


After that, you're just dreaming man, have a whisky and go to bed.
Bjs is retired. Is L Smith with Hearn? Didn't FW return big profits this year?
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mickey1975 wrote: 15 Jan 2022, 21:00
595179 wrote: 15 Jan 2022, 20:34
mickey1975 wrote: 15 Jan 2022, 20:14
I'm stating facts. Name five better fighters in any stable in the UK.
Well, for starters, Uncle Bob pays Fury's cheques, not Frank. The last time Frank picked up the tab was in Ireland against Pianeta and that was a loooooong time ago. The best you could possibly hope to connect Frank any of the fights since would be advisor.



I'll bite and say........

AJ (#2 at HW)
Okolie (#4 at CW)
Callum Smith (#1 at MW) Yarde #11
BJS (#2 at SMW) or John Ruder (#4 at SMW) Parker #14
Liam Smith (#5 at SWW)


After that, you're just dreaming man, have a whisky and go to bed.
Bjs is retired. Is L Smith with Hearn? Didn't FW return big profits this year?
Liam Smith is most definitely with Hearn. Do yourself a favor, have a look at BoxRec's Top 20 P4P, look at those boxer's last two fights, then count how many of them Eddie Hearn promoted and how many Frank promoted. If that doesn't make you either biased or a troll, then nothing will.
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What's Smith's contract? Wasn't he on a foreign show a couple of fights ago?
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What's BJS's contract, also? I'm genuinely interested.
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according to wikipedia this is heartens current stable

Boxer Nationality Weight Signed Title
Nikita Ababiy United States American Middleweight 17 July 2018
Murodjon Akhmadaliev Uzbekistan Uzbekistan Bantamweight 25 April 2019
Demetrius Andrade United States American Middleweight 17 July 2018 WBO middleweight champion
Qais Ashfaq England English Bantamweight 1 February 2018
Martin Bakole Democratic Republic of the Congo Congolese Heavyweight 10 July 2019
Zelfa Barrett England English Super-featherweight March 2020 Commonwealth super-featherweight champion
Reece Bellotti England English Featherweight 30 June 2015
Conor Benn England English Welterweight 30 March 2016
Chris Billam-Smith England English Cruiserweight Commonwealth cruiserweight champion
Dmitry Bivol Russia Russian Light-heavyweight 15 January 2019 WBA light-heavyweight champion
Arthur Biyarslanov Canada Canadian Light-welterweight 29 March 2019
Cecilia Brækhus Norway Norwegian Welterweight 22 October 2019
Joshua Buatsi England English Light-heavyweight 5 June 2017
Ricky Burns Scotland Scottish Lightweight 11 March 2013
Chantelle Cameron England English Light-welterweight WBC female light-welterweight champion
Luke Campbell England English Lightweight 23 April 2013
Felix Cash England English Middleweight 11 May 2016 Commonwealth middleweight champion
Marc Castro United States American Featherweight
Ted Cheeseman England English Light-middleweight 9 April 2015 British light-middleweight champion
Souleymane Cissokho France French Light-middleweight
Kieron Conway England English Light-middleweight 12 July 2019
Joe Cordina Wales Welsh Lightweight 1 February 2017 British lightweight champion
Shannon Courtenay England English Super-featherweight
Robbie Davies Jr England English Light-welterweight
John Docherty Scotland Scottish Super-middleweight 11 July 2018
Sam Eggington England English Light-middleweight 1 October 2014
Alexis Espino United States American Middleweight 28 October 2018
Juan Francisco Estrada Mexico Mexican Super-flyweight 28 June 2019 WBA (Super) and The Ring super-flyweight champion
Tevin Farmer United States American Super-featherweight 23 August 2018
Ukashir Farooq England English Bantamweight
Aqib Fiaz England English Lightweight
Rocky Fielding England English Super-middleweight 6 June 2012
Scott Fitzgerald England English Light-middleweight 21 September 2015 British light-middleweight champion
Raymond Ford United States American Super-featherweight
Anthony Fowler England English Light-middleweight 20 April 2017
Charles Frankham England English Featherweight 14 January 2019
Hughie Fury England English Heavyweight 26 July 2019
Kid Galahad England English Featherweight
Jordan Gill England English Featherweight 29 October 2018
Shakhram Giyasov Uzbekistan Uzbekistan Welterweight 25 April 2019
Devin Haney United States American Lightweight 25 April 2019 WBC lightweight champion
Terri Harper England English Super-featherweight 24 September 2019 WBC, and IBO female super-featherweight champion
John Hedges England English Super-middleweight
Filip Hrgović Croatia Croatian Heavyweight 14 February 2019
Daniel Jacobs United States American Middleweight 23 September 2017
Callum Johnson Scotland Scottish Light-heavyweight 30 June 2015
Natasha Jonas England English Lightweight 20 June 2017
Otha Jones III United States American Welterweight 16 January 2019
Anthony Joshua England English Heavyweight 24 July 2013
Josh Kelly England English Welterweight 8 February 2017
Israil Madrimov Uzbekistan Uzbekistan Light-middleweight 7 March 2019
Magomedrasul Majidov Uzbekistan Uzbekistan Heavyweight 10 September 2019
Florian Marku Albania Albanian Welterweight 27 November 2020
Savannah Marshall England English Super-middleweight 1 August 2019
Julio Cesar Martinez Mexico Mexican Flyweight 11 October 2019 WBC flyweight champion
Reshat Mati United States American Lightweight 17 July 2018
Lawrence Okolie England English Cruiserweight 18 January 2017 WBO cruiserweight champion
Diego Pacheco United States American Middleweight 5 October 2018
Joseph Parker New Zealand New Zealander Heavyweight 31 May 2019
Hopey Price England English Super-bantamweight 11 October 2018
Craig Richards England English Light-heavyweight
Lewis Ritson England English Light-welterweight 10 October 2017
Srisaket Sor Rungvisai Thailand Thai Super-flyweight 30 January 2019
John Ryder England English Super-middleweight
Billy Joe Saunders England English Super-middleweight 13 August 2019
Ellie Scotney England English Featherweight
Lee Selby Wales Welsh Lightweight
Amanda Serrano Puerto Rico Puerto Rican Featherweight 28 October 2018 WBO and WBC interim female champion
Callum Smith England English Super-middleweight 3 October 2012
Dalton Smith England English Light-welterweight 21 March 2019
Liam Smith England English Light-middleweight 9 January 2019
Katie Taylor Republic of Ireland Irish Lightweight 27 October 2016 WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO, and The Ring female lightweight champion
James Tennyson Northern Ireland Northern Irish Lightweight
Oleksandr Usyk Ukraine Ukrainian Heavyweight 7 September 2018
Jessie Vargas United States American Light-middleweight 17 July 2018
Josh Warrington England English Featherweight February 2020
Martin Joseph Ward England English Super-featherweight 31 May 2012
Fabio Wardley England English Heavyweight
Dillian Whyte England English Heavyweight 20 May 2016
Thomas Whittaker Hart England English Light-heavyweight
Austin Williams United States American Middleweight 26 February 2019
Gamal Yafai England English Super-bantamweight
Khalid Yafai England English Super-flyweight 14 May 2012
Daniyar Yeleussinov Kazakhstan Kazakhstani Welterweight 5 March 2018
Zhang Zhilei China Chinese Heavyweight 24 September 2020
Canelo Alvarez Mexico Mexican Super-middleweight 19 December 2020 WBA, WBC, WBO, IBF, and The Ring super middleweight champion
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Wonder if DazN taking over bt sports will effect frank, will they drip him cause dazn has enough boxing?
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I'm giving Queensbury one more year. If we get the same this year as last with knockover after knockover then I'm giving up on them and BT Sports. I don't want to spend my Saturday nights watching prospects fight journeymen with losing records. My interest in boxing has never been lower. Bring me back from the brink please FW.
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595179 wrote: 15 Jan 2022, 18:57
Manchester Hitman wrote: 15 Jan 2022, 18:26 March 19th - headlined by Dubois and Avanesyan also apparently on the card, and neither have an opponent sorted. I don’t know what’s going on with Warren, but things are looking very iffy at the moment.
It is what it is, he's got a limited budget and limited amount of talent.
He’s with BT - why do you think he’s got a limited budget? His U.K. stable is probably bigger than anyone else’s bar MTK.
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There's loads on that list who aren't even with him.
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mickey1975 wrote: 16 Jan 2022, 04:41 There's loads on that list who aren't even with him.

i knew you'd pipe up :lol: that's why i put according to wikipedia, not sure when it was last updated you say bjs is retired but i don't know if that's official and is he still under contract with eddie ?
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mickey1975 wrote: 15 Jan 2022, 21:00
595179 wrote: 15 Jan 2022, 20:34
mickey1975 wrote: 15 Jan 2022, 20:14
I'm stating facts. Name five better fighters in any stable in the UK.
Well, for starters, Uncle Bob pays Fury's cheques, not Frank. The last time Frank picked up the tab was in Ireland against Pianeta and that was a loooooong time ago. The best you could possibly hope to connect Frank any of the fights since would be advisor.



I'll bite and say........

AJ (#2 at HW)
Okolie (#4 at CW)
Callum Smith (#1 at MW) Yarde #11
BJS (#2 at SMW) or John Ruder (#4 at SMW) Parker #14
Liam Smith (#5 at SWW)


After that, you're just dreaming man, have a whisky and go to bed.
Bjs is retired. Is L Smith with Hearn? Didn't FW return big profits this year?
Billy hasn’t announced his retirement and still has one fight on his deal with Matchroom from memory.

Liam Smith is with Matchroom. They were ok with him fighting on the Russian show.

And no, Frank didn’t return big profits this year. The company that do the promotional activities has Frank’s sons as directors. It made £4m profit last year but still has an overall net liability position of £6.4m. The controlling party of the company is a Mrs S Warren. For what it’s worth Matchroom’s profit before tax was 5 times higher than that.

I would imagine the bulk of Queensbury’s profit comes from Tyson. Do they really do enough to justify it?

Due to the amount of times FW has wound up companies to avoid paying people I don’t think he’d be allowed to be actually on the books for it.
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