Keith Thurman vs. Mario Barrios | FOX PPV - February 5, 2022

[KiwiRider]

Thurman wants to fight 3 times this year.

I really can't see why not.

He said he's fully recovered.

Fight again June and then again later in the year.

One can be Crawford.

I can't see why not either, if we just forget how injury prone he is, and how much older he is now, and how rusty.
Actually, I can see why not...

[bobcatbox]

So is the PBC model basically just front a weak PPV every month and roll out a good one once or twice a year, charge $70 bucks regardless of quality, and silo the sport down to its last remaining 50,000 or so fans with who can spend $1,000 a year on TV boxing alone?

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So is the PBC model basically just front a weak PPV every month and roll out a good one once or twice a year, charge $70 bucks regardless of quality, and silo the sport down to its last remaining 50,000 or so fans with who can spend $1,000 a year on TV boxing alone?

They announced the price on this?

[Bandog]

Great fight and matchmaking, but holy crap, this is not PPV-worthy. They're both coming off losses, and Barrios is anything but a PPV draw right now. Going for Thurman by decision, though.

Barrios doesn't have much power, and Thurman can go into run-time mode and outbox most guys.

Lopez or Collazo weren't big punchers either, but had Thurman in serious trouble if I remember right. I'm pulling for Barrios.

[Mexi-Box]

Great fight and matchmaking, but holy crap, this is not PPV-worthy. They're both coming off losses, and Barrios is anything but a PPV draw right now. Going for Thurman by decision, though.

Barrios doesn't have much power, and Thurman can go into run-time mode and outbox most guys.

Lopez or Collazo weren't big punchers either, but had Thurman in serious trouble if I remember right. I'm pulling for Barrios.

I'm pretty sure he was, but Thurman has great recovery. He's been hurt in just about all his biggest fights except Porter and Garcia, IIRC. Dude also got hurt by Soto Karass.

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Barrios: Move To Welterweight Was Long Time Coming, Was Harder And Harder To Make 140

“it was a long time coming already for myself,” Barrios confessed to BS.com and other reporters during a recent virtual press conference. “I have a big frame. It was getting harder and harder to make 140 already. Even before the fight with Tank was made, we were looking to start thinking about fights in the welterweight division.

“When the opportunity came up, I said yes right away. I didn’t want an easy fight for my first fight at 147. I told my manager Luis DeCubas Jr. that I wanted to fight someone who has been at 147 for a while, who has fought the best, been in the ring with the best. Keith Thurman’s name came up. I said yes right away.”

“I could have stayed making 140,” insists Barrios. “Me and my team felt it was the best decision that it was best for my body to move up to fight at a weight more natural for myself.”

[ironbeard]

Can’t find much anything to criticize in that^^^thinking.

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Can’t find much anything to criticize in that^^^thinking.

Nope. A very good statement.

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From 3 cards across DAZN, ESPN and FOX PPV

Now we’re left with just this.

I don’t mind one card a week.

[brilo33]

i think barrios is to thin ,what i mean he dont have the strenght to stop thurman fighting inside and roughing him up, he is a tidy fighter mario just cant see him boxing thurman long also he gets hit with shots thurman ko win for me,

[Bandog]

i think barrios is to thin ,what i mean he dont have the strenght to stop thurman fighting inside and roughing him up, he is a tidy fighter mario just cant see him boxing thurman long also he gets hit with shots thurman ko win for me,

Barrios had problems making 140, so I see him being stronger and will give an excellent account of himself. Maybe not win, but it will be a good scrap. It would not shock me if he wins. Thurman has been out a long time.

[brilo33]

i think barrios is to thin ,what i mean he dont have the strenght to stop thurman fighting inside and roughing him up, he is a tidy fighter mario just cant see him boxing thurman long also he gets hit with shots thurman ko win for me,

Barrios had problems making 140, so I see him being stronger and will give an excellent account of himself. Maybe not win, but it will be a good scrap. It would not shock me if he wins. Thurman has been out a long time.

i agree barrios looks the part and can box got a long frame, but i just feel he gets tagged a lot and againgst thurman thats danger, i agree thurman has been out for a long time also has not looked sharp even in his last fights , i just think barrios looks vulnerable, ill be cheering barrios any way

[Bandog]

i think barrios is to thin ,what i mean he dont have the strenght to stop thurman fighting inside and roughing him up, he is a tidy fighter mario just cant see him boxing thurman long also he gets hit with shots thurman ko win for me,

Barrios had problems making 140, so I see him being stronger and will give an excellent account of himself. Maybe not win, but it will be a good scrap. It would not shock me if he wins. Thurman has been out a long time.

i agree barrios looks the part and can box got a long frame, but i just feel he gets tagged a lot and againgst thurman thats danger, i agree thurman has been out for a long time also has not looked sharp even in his last fights , i just think barrios looks vulnerable, ill be cheering barrios any way

Thurman is/was a great boxer but has his whole career riding on this fight, so he'll fight his ass off. He needs to perform well if he wants to get the Crawford fight in the summer. If it's a close fight, he may as well retire imo.

[KiwiRider]

i think barrios is to thin ,what i mean he dont have the strenght to stop thurman fighting inside and roughing him up, he is a tidy fighter mario just cant see him boxing thurman long also he gets hit with shots thurman ko win for me,

Barrios had problems making 140, so I see him being stronger and will give an excellent account of himself. Maybe not win, but it will be a good scrap. It would not shock me if he wins. Thurman has been out a long time.

Maybe stronger, I'm picking better stamina for sure. Thurman better shake the rust off quickly as I can see Barrios taking the early rounds.
Still backing Thurman for the win, but he will definitely know he has been in a fight.

[Bandog]

LOL @ boxrec's listing Thurman's height at 5'9 1/2". He's about 5'7".

[adislav123]

i think barrios is to thin ,what i mean he dont have the strenght to stop thurman fighting inside and roughing him up, he is a tidy fighter mario just cant see him boxing thurman long also he gets hit with shots thurman ko win for me,

to thin that's some expert observation. congratulations on that one.

not strong enuff to stop thurman fighting inside another nugget of observatory brilliance.

also u can't see barrios boxing long AND he gets hit with shots. the anticipation and vision of your beautiful boxing mind leaves me admiring it in awe.

thurman ko win i'm speechless.

ur simply one of the best on here. a genuine expert. u most certainly are extremely successful placing high value bets on bouts too.

[ironbeard]

LOL @ boxrec's listing Thurman's height at 5'9 1/2". He's about 5'7".

Maybe Once Upon A Time has been doing rack therapy for the last year and a half.

[Bandog]

LOL @ boxrec's listing Thurman's height at 5'9 1/2". He's about 5'7".

Maybe Once Upon A Time has been doing rack therapy for the last year and a half.

[Bandog]

i think barrios is to thin ,what i mean he dont have the strenght to stop thurman fighting inside and roughing him up, he is a tidy fighter mario just cant see him boxing thurman long also he gets hit with shots thurman ko win for me,

to thin that's some expert observation. congratulations on that one.

not strong enuff to stop thurman fighting inside another nugget of observatory brilliance.

also u can't see barrios boxing long AND he gets hit with shots. the anticipation and vision of your beautiful boxing mind leaves me admiring it in awe.

thurman ko win i'm speechless.

ur simply one of the best on here. a genuine expert. u most certainly are extremely successful placing high value bets on bouts too.

I hate condescending assholes.

[adislav123]

condescending? pretty harsh word.

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Leo Santa Cruz: After This Fight As Long Everything Goes Good, My Next One Will Be At 126

Leo Santa Cruz doesn’t foresee any issues in returning to the featherweight division.

The reigning WBA “Super” featherweight titlist has a plan in place to make his way back down to a weight that he has not seen since 2019. His only request was to take one more fight at junior lightweight, where he will return for a scheduled 12-round clash with Phoenix’s Keenan Carbajal on February 5 at Michelob ULTRA Arena in Las Vegas.

With a win, the intention is to return to the featherweight division where he has held a title since August 2015.

“I wanted to make sure how I feel. I was out for a year,” Santa Cruz explained to BS.com of the decision to remain put at 130-pounds for the time being. “I went up in weight (during the layoff) and was the heaviest I’ve ever been. I was like 153, 154. So I was like, “Maybe I’ll have trouble making 126.’”

Santa Cruz (37-2-1, 19 KOs) has been permitted to retain his title despite having not defended it—nor has fought at featherweight—since February 2019. Two fights have followed at junior lightweight. First was a twelve-round win over Miguel Flores to claim the vacant WBA “Super” 130-pound title in becoming a four-division titlist. Santa Cruz then returned the belt to Gervonta ‘Tank’ Davis (26-0, 24 KOs) via sixth round knockout in their October 2020 title fight at Alamodome in San Antonio.

An unwelcome 15-month inactive period will precede his ring return in February, which comes as the co-feature of a Fox Sports Pay-Per-View event.

In his time away from the ring, Santa Cruz was since named as part of a title consolidation process where he is on the hook to next face the winner of the planned fight between WBA “World” featherweight titlist Leigh Wood and two-time Irish Olympian and 2012 Olympic bronze medalist Michael Conlan, which—barring a postponement due to the Omicron variant—is penciled in for March 12 in Nottingham, England.

There is no issue on the part of Santa Cruz to honor the WBA mandate.

“I think after this fight as long as everything goes good my next fight will be at 126,” Santa Cruz insists. “I told my team to first let me fight at 130, make sure I can drop to 130.

“I did, I got there fast. I’m already like 133 (as of December 29, more than five weeks from the official weigh-in).”

Santa Cruz-Carbajal is part of a PPV event topped by former unified welterweight titlist Keith Thurman (29-1, 22 KOs), who returns after 30 months inactive to face former secondary junior welterweight titlist Mario Barrios (26-1, 17 KOs).

[KiwiRider]

This is going to cost $75 USD


Who the heck is going to pay that?
This could be the lowest performing ppv ever.
Thurman makes history

[ironbeard]

This is going to cost $75 USD


Who the heck is going to pay that?
This could be the lowest performing ppv ever.
Thurman makes history

Don’t look at me that way, Kiwi.

[maverick23]

This is going to cost $75 USD


Who the heck is going to pay that?
This could be the lowest performing ppv ever.
Thurman makes history

It’s madness. My guess would be that they were expecting a much higher number of buys for the Ortiz/Martin show at the lower price point, it didn’t happen (was anything actually reported re: how many buys it achieved?) so they’ve said it ‘Screw it….if only 40,000 people are going to buy it then let’s just charge the full price’.

It’s complete greed and demonstrates no care for the sport. Fox will be out of boxing once their contract expires.

The undercard isn’t even much good.