CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑18 Jan 2022, 10:26
Even a semi motivated Tyson will toy with him in a very similar fight to the Chisora fights. It’ll be an absolute borefest.
Tyson’s box office, Whyte is a fringe guy best known for getting blasted out by AJ. If Whyte gets 20% of say £20m he should consider himself very fortunate.
who knows, wallin was supposed to be a breeze for him too and he ended up getting hurt, and sliced bad so bad no one could moan about it being stopped.
thats why guys have to actually fight the fights and not just win them in fantasy, its the ones that werent expecting that can get you.
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑17 Nov 2021, 04:57
fury vs whyte, good fight, cant get much better than that while waiting for aj-usyk 2. would be laughable if fury retired now, straight up comedy
a lot of fighters would have been stopped with that cut
Also, if Fury doesn't fight Whyte who would he earn as much facing? Joshua and Usyk, obviously, but other than that Whyte is probably his biggest pay day out there.
If he took 65/35 against Whyte he'd probably earn more than an 80/20 split against Parker, Chisora et al.
I'd have Fury as a big favourite but it's still a live heavyweight fight I'd really look forward to and I hope they do a deal.
Fury’s more a clubber and a slapper than a puncher. Worst technique I’ve ever seen at his level bar Calzaghe, who used to be a great puncher before his hands went.
Show me a video of a great Fury punch if you disagree.
I agree that he's not the most elegant to watch. He looks clumsy and off balance a lot, but none of that matters, he does the single most important thing in boxing and that is.... find a way to win.
Yup agree, he’s so much bigger than most they struggle to get to him and when they do he gets those octopus arms all over them.
Usyk will manage to show us where he really stands.
I'm picking Usyk to beat him the same way I did with the Joshua fight. SRL and Tyson say boxing is 75% mental and when the first bell rings, I haven't seen anyone as focused as the Ukrainian for a long time. Fury is big, he's has plenty of skills and he loves the mind games, but I think Usyk will take him.
They ain’t happy with 80-20. They ain’t happy with 5mil guarantee. They don’t really want the fight that’s there to be had. Fury’s never been a huge money fight. He might be the top man but the moneys always been with AJ.
Fury is the kind of guy who wants C grade fights while waiting for the big ones, he’s waiting on Usyk or AJ. That’s where the money is.
Do you know what the fight might be expected to gross ?
Or does anyone else ?
Surely 5m guaranteed is better for The BodySnatcher ? Even £3m is set for a comfortable life - he’s gotta sign the ting !
Only in boxing would 5m for a chance to win the biggest title be classed as not enough. Who the fornicate is whyte anyway? He’s B level. He should have took that first offer. By going to bids and having an issue with the split, he’s showing his intentions.
Why do we need to work out what a fight would gross? It’s supposed to be a sport not a rock concert. Tbh I hardly watch or pay much attention to boxing now it’s pretty much a joke these days with the politics. I used to hope for the day the likes of Arum dropped dead but Eddie is cut from the same cloth. He follows their model.
It DOES seem like he's demanding a lot, but always the chance he could end up on life support, so I don't blame him.
Whyte has earned incredibly well for his talent set, but "you don't get what you deserve, you get what you negotiate" - good for 'The DillWeed I say.
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑18 Jan 2022, 11:22
who knows, wallin was supposed to be a breeze for him too and he ended up getting hurt, and sliced bad so bad no one could moan about it being stopped.
thats why guys have to actually fight the fights and not just win them in fantasy, its the ones that werent expecting that can get you.
Whyte might be a slightly harder night’s work than Wallin but even an under prepared unfocused Tyson should cruise to a win.
By all accounts his preparation for Wilder was very patchy and if he can deal with a dangerous guy like him then a limited slugger like Whyte should pose no problems.
The build up with Tyson taking the mick out of Whyte’s tired old roadman shtick will be great entertainment, the fight less so
stujones wrote: ↑18 Jan 2022, 07:18
More delays - arggh this is freaking annoying now.
Hearn says Whyte vs Fury if next likely to be April or May - WTF - Why? Just fight for gods sake.
This isn’t happening.
Hearn and Whyte want to fight for another version of the WBC title.
Fury is the champ, he doesn’t bend to anyone that’s his style. He’s said he wants to fight March 26th, so now Hearn has said he wants end of April-May, this shows their intentions. He’s also said that Whyte is locked in arbitration with the WBC, hardly a good sign.
Just really fed up with the Heavyweights now - they are not even that good.
Yes there has been covid - but what is the dates of Fury's last two fights, when did Whyte last fight.
If we aren't careful - AJ and Usyk where there was a rematch clause FFS could be a year before their last fight.
stujones wrote: ↑18 Jan 2022, 07:18
More delays - arggh this is freaking annoying now.
Hearn says Whyte vs Fury if next likely to be April or May - WTF - Why? Just fight for gods sake.
This isn’t happening.
Hearn and Whyte want to fight for another version of the WBC title.
Fury is the champ, he doesn’t bend to anyone that’s his style. He’s said he wants to fight March 26th, so now Hearn has said he wants end of April-May, this shows their intentions. He’s also said that Whyte is locked in arbitration with the WBC, hardly a good sign.
Just really fed up with the Heavyweights now - they are not even that good.
Yes there has been covid - but what is the dates of Fury's last two fights, when did Whyte last fight.
If we aren't careful - AJ and Usyk where there was a rematch clause FFS could be a year before their last fight.
It’s the wording of these ‘press releases’ that gets me. You just know, like when AJ was supposed to fight Fury, that they are going to do all they can to scupper the fight. Truthfully, Hearn will be hoping that AJ beats Usyk and Tyson slips past another journeyman so he can take cream off the AJ v Fury fight. He wants Whyte to get a belt but not the fight with Fury. He’s not daft. He is completely self serving though.
knockout wrote: ↑18 Jan 2022, 19:35
Is Eddie trying to delay things so it doesn’t clash with AJ v Usyk ? At one point it looked like both fights could be Late March / early April.
Hard to do stadium events so close to each other
I really doubt that. no way AJ vs usyk is march, doubt it will be april... then wont be early may (canelo dates)... Late may early june i recon. Eddie would be keen as a bean to get Whyte vs Fury on in march or early april, however i dont know if he has figured out the financials. If he bids less than 25 million whyte gets less than he has already been offered. it takes 50 million bid to get whyte what he wants. only bids worth making are somewhere inbetween and i just dont know if dazn wanna be bidding that much, to pay another networks fighter 80% of it, and gamble a UK PPV attempt/no american involved subscription show.
mickey1975 wrote: ↑19 Jan 2022, 10:12
Eddie doesn't even think the purse bids are going ahead by the sounds of it. Bob and Eddie are more talking Fury-Usyk.
The whole thing is a fcuken mess. I’m being a parrot, but there was never going to be a purse bid for this fight - not at the level of money involved.
mickey1975 wrote: ↑19 Jan 2022, 10:12
Eddie doesn't even think the purse bids are going ahead by the sounds of it. Bob and Eddie are more talking Fury-Usyk.
I think that’s a good thing for AJ actually (assuming Tyson doesn’t retire). Will give him longer to adjust to a new trainer.
I can’t see how Whyte can be happy with it though.
mickey1975 wrote: ↑19 Jan 2022, 10:12
Eddie doesn't even think the purse bids are going ahead by the sounds of it. Bob and Eddie are more talking Fury-Usyk.
I think that’s a good thing for AJ actually (assuming Tyson doesn’t retire). Will give him longer to adjust to a new trainer.
I can’t see how Whyte can be happy with it though.
nobody is happy with this drawn out saga style of doing things - worse than Brexit !
if they werent earning big money from celeb endorsements and instagram and whatever else then maybe there would be some hunger .
mickey1975 wrote: ↑19 Jan 2022, 10:12
Eddie doesn't even think the purse bids are going ahead by the sounds of it. Bob and Eddie are more talking Fury-Usyk.
mickey1975 wrote: ↑19 Jan 2022, 10:12
Eddie doesn't even think the purse bids are going ahead by the sounds of it. Bob and Eddie are more talking Fury-Usyk.
mickey1975 wrote: ↑19 Jan 2022, 10:12
Eddie doesn't even think the purse bids are going ahead by the sounds of it. Bob and Eddie are more talking Fury-Usyk.
Does Hearn promote Usyk?
i believe that contract is coming to an end unless they do the joshua rematch according to an arcticle in the sun
Bob and Frank must know Fury is a great talent but that the wheels may come off at any moment. I thought they threw him in with Wilder too soon. They really need him in with C grade type opponents or the biggest money makers. The guys in between, like Whyte, are exactly the kind of guys he might take lightly.
Having said that Fury had a hell of a time in the run up to Wilder III so perhaps it's unfair.
Eddie is implying that if purse bids happen tommorow, and the appeal changes the split, that the purse bids would still be valid you would just change the split %.... surely not.
likely wont matter as purse bids are unlikely for tommorow but geeze that would be very very messy... I would of thought if the spits get changed it goes back to purse bids again.
gregregegg wrote: ↑20 Jan 2022, 20:10
Eddie is implying that if purse bids happen tommorow, and the appeal changes the split, that the purse bids would still be valid you would just change the split %.... surely not.
likely wont matter as purse bids are unlikely for tommorow but geeze that would be very very messy... I would of thought if the spits get changed it goes back to purse bids again.
Yeah - that would be mental and Bob/Tyson/Frank would be kicking off then.
The WBC have created a proper mess here.
Anyone know if the purse bid is actually happening today?
