The Top 100 Greatest Boxers Pound per Pound of All-Time

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man, 95th out of 100, he;s bottom of the barrel isnt he

Biggest upset since Douglas beat Tyson that he didn’t have Pedroza #1. Now I have to wonder until 2030 who the greatest boxer of all time is, if I live that long

Pedroza was the most complete fighter I have ever seen.

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The great Manuel Ortiz's films on YouTube are scarce. There are not too many videos of him. The only 2 fights that I have seen of him are clips of his third fight against Luis Castillo and his last championship fight with South Africa's Vic Toweel.

Ortiz as I see him on film, was a slugger/brawler with great inside-fighting techniques. But, could be outfoxed if fighting from long range.

I wonder if the guys from the West Coast forum had any anecdotes about this great Chicano fighter.

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[Ambling Alp II]

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elmer, of all of your posts over the years, this one makes the most sense.

[DrDuke]

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elmer, of all of your posts over the years, this one makes the most sense.

I guess, the thread can be finished on this note.

[elmersalsa]

Right off the hat, I made a personal list of the greatest Chicano/Mexican American boxers pound per pound of all-time

1. Manuel Ortiz
2. Oscar De La Hoya
3. Michael Carbajal
4. Genaro "Chicanito" Hernandez
5. Bobby Chacon
6. Carlos Palomino
7. Danny "Little Red" Lopez
8. Johnny Tapia
9. Orlando Canizalez
10. Fernando Vargas
11. Armando "Mando" Ramos
12. Raul Rojas
13. Art Aragon
14. Paulie Ayala
15. Andy Ruiz, Jr
16. Gabriel Ruelas
17. Jesse James Leija
18. Ruben Castillo
19. Gaby Canizalez
20. Enrique Bolanos

Is there anyone on the list you think that should be in?

[oogiebe]

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elmer, of all of your posts over the years, this one makes the most sense.

Very "Kronk-like" wouldn't you say?

[Ambling Alp II]

Guess it was kind of mean, but I just couldn't resist.
Yes it was Kronk-like.

[elmersalsa]

Well, at #75, we got another great Mexican boxer of recent times. His name is the Baby Face Assassin, Marco Antonio Barrera! Another great fighter!

#75. Marco Antonio Barrera
Record: 67-7, (1NC), with 44KOs
KO Pct is 66%
Career: 1989-2011
World Titles Held: WBC World Featherweight Champion (2002), WBC World Jr. Lightweight Champion (2004-2007), IBF World Jr. Lightweight Champion (2005)
Highlights: Won his first 43 professional fights. (Record: 43-0, with 31KOs). From February 1998 to September 2006, lost only 2 fights in 23 encounters. (Record: 20-2, (1NC), with 11KOs). Beat 9 out of 13 world champions he faced. (Record vs world champions is 10-7, 5KOs). Beat 3 out of 5 Hall of Fame boxers. (Record vs Hall of Famers is 4-4, 0KOs). Was only stopped once in 74 bouts. Was also Mexican and NABF Super Flyweight Champion.
Historical Impact: His 3-fight series with fellow countryman Erik "El Terrible" Morales produced one of the greatest boxing rivalries in history, in which he won narrowly 2 out of the 3. One of Mexico's all-time great idols, is also one of the best super bantamweight fighters in history.

Defining Fight: WTKO12 Kennedy McKinney.....February 3, 1996......."Became a certified legend in a thriller"
Other Defining Bouts: LDQ5 Junior Jones, L12 Erik "El Terrible" Morales, W12 Naseem Hamed, W12 Erik "El Terrible" Morales (III), and LTKO11 Manny Pacquiao.

Any thoughts about this great fighter. A great warrior indeed!

[elmersalsa]

Well, at #75, we got another great Mexican boxer of recent times. His name is the Baby Face Assassin, Marco Antonio Barrera! Another great fighter!

75. Marco Antonio Barrera
Record: 67-7, (1NC), with 44KOs
KO Pct is 66%
Career: 1989-2011
World Titles Held: WBC World Featherweight Champion (2002), WBC World Jr. Lightweight Champion (2004-2007), IBF World Jr. Lightweight Champion (2005)
Highlights: Won his first 43 professional fights. (Record: 43-0, with 31KOs). From February 1998 to September 2006, lost only 2 fights in 23 encounters. (Record: 20-2, (1NC), with 11KOs). Beat 9 out of 13 world champions he faced. (Record vs world champions is 10-7, 5KOs). Beat 3 out of 5 Hall of Fame boxers. (Record vs Hall of Famers is 4-4, 0KOs). Was only stopped once in 74 bouts. Was also Mexican and NABF Super Flyweight Champion.
Historical Impact: His 3-fight series with fellow countryman Erik "El Terrible" Morales produced one of the greatest boxing rivalries in history, in which he won narrowly 2 out of the 3. One of Mexico's all-time great idols, is also one of the best super bantamweight fighters in history.

Defining Fight: WTKO12 Kennedy McKinney.....February 3, 1996......."Became a certified legend in a thriller"
Other Defining Bouts: LDQ5 Junior Jones, L12 Erik "El Terrible" Morales, W12 Naseem Hamed, W12 Erik "El Terrible" Morales (III), W12 Johnny Tapia[/b], and LTKO11 Manny Pacquiao.

Any thoughts about this great fighter. A great warrior indeed!

[elmersalsa]

Having won already the Mexican and NABF Super Flyweight titles, Barrera at 20 years old, somehow didn't challenged for the 115-pound crown by any means. Maybe he was too big for the weight class and couldn't make weight.

Barrera gained 7 pounds by the year 1994, and on November 3rd of that year was matched against former WBA World Bantamweight Champion Eddie Cook of St. Louis, MO but now a Las Vegas, NV resident. It was THE FIRST BIG TEST for Barrera at world class level.

Cook was a fast and hard-hitting southpaw with a respectable record of 19-2, with 16KOs. A pretty good boxer.

The FIRST BIG TEST almost ended very easy for the young rising Mexican boxer. He corralled Cook in a corner and with a series of fast and hard blows, Cook, although that didn't went down, received a mandatory 8-count.

By next round, Cook recovered like a real champ and started to work on Barrera. Both fighters exchanged telling shots each round that was passing by. It was very entertaining until the 8th round when Barrera put Cook down this time. A barrage of blows followed and the referee stopped the fight. Barrera is the winner by an 8th round technical knockout and is a step closer for a world crown title shot.

It was also Cook's last professional fight.

[elmersalsa]

You all should see a fight of the great Marco Antonio Barrera of Mexico City, Mexico, when he faced at age 17 against an experienced opponent countryman named Javier "Suzuki" Diaz.

Diaz had a terrible record of 42-25-2 with only 9 fights won by knockout. Suzuki was an experienced veteran of over 70 fights. Barrera only had 14. At the beginning of the broadcast, Barrera was speaking about studying in Mexico City at the university for architecture degree if this boxing Business did not went as planned. He had very long hair all the way down to his shoulders.

The fight was maybe for Barrera to gain experience. Diaz was very short and stocky. He was also a southpaw. But during the match, he wasn't a problem for the young rising star. Barrera was too tall for Diaz. And he was dominating the fight.

By round 7, at the end of the round, something strange happened. At the bell, the cameras showed clearly that Barrera hit Diaz behind the head area, almost about the back of the neck.

There was a big confusion and the boxing commission and fight judges at Mexico City's Arena Coliseo were in conference with the referee. It seemed that the Baby Faced Assassin was about to be disqualified for the blow behind of the neck. To the crowd's surprise, the referee lifted Barrera's hand as the winner...Unbelievable! Barrera is the winner by a 7th round disqualification win!

[elmersalsa]

I just saw 3 fights of the extraordinary and sensational boxer Marco Antonio Barrera of Mexico City, Mexico.

In his title fight with champion Daniel Jimenez, of Puerto Rico, Barrera won easily by Unanimous Decision in 12 for the WBO World Super Bantamweight Championship. Is the WBO a legit organization? Do the fans need a 4th champion in a weight class?

It is hard for me to recognize a boxer that holds the WBO belt as champion. It really is. I don't consider a fighter that holds a WBO as a legit champion. If the champion at any weight class does not holds the WBA, WBC or IBF belts, he is not a world champion in my book.

Well, Barrera took the WBO route. And in the fight, the only thing he suffered was a clash of heads in the 1st round. He pummeled Jimenez with left and right the whole fight. He won easily. Probably, too easy.

Then, in first defense, he stops Frankie Maldonado in 2 rounds. In the second title defense, it was much more easier. He stops countryman Maui Diaz in only one round.

These 3 fights were in the legacy of The Baby Faced Assassin who got a record of 37-0, with 26KOs.

[elmersalsa]

I just saw 3 fights of the extraordinary and sensational boxer Marco Antonio Barrera of Mexico City, Mexico.

In his title fight with champion Daniel Jimenez, of Puerto Rico, Barrera won easily by Unanimous Decision in 12 for the WBO World Super Bantamweight Championship. Is the WBO a legit organization? Do the fans need a 4th champion in a weight class?

It is hard for me to recognize a boxer that holds the WBO belt as champion. It really is. I don't consider a fighter that holds a WBO as a legit champion. If the champion at any weight class does not holds the WBA, WBC or IBF belts, he is not a world champion in my book.

Well, Barrera took the WBO route. And in the fight, the only thing he suffered was a clash of heads in the 1st round. He pummeled Jimenez with left and right the whole fight. He won easily. Probably, too easy.

Then, in first defense, he stops Frankie Maldonado in 2 rounds. In the second title defense, it was much more easier. He stops countryman Maui Diaz in only one round.

These 3 fights were in the legacy of The Baby Faced Assassin who got a record of 37-0, with 26KOs.

[elmersalsa]

The Baby Faced Assassin, the great Marco Antonio Barrera of Mexico City, Mexico fought 5 times in the year 1995. Something unheard of of these recent times.

With a record of 39-0 with 26KOs, he faces a good former champion named Kennedy McKinney, a former gold medalist of 1988 Olympics.

McKinney 30, of Memphis, TN, gave Barrera his toughest fight ever. He almost stopped Barrera in the 9th round. Barrera was in bad shape. In the 11th, McKinney surfaced after being knocked down 3 times in previous rounds. Barrera stops McKinney in the 12th and last round to retain his WBO World Super Bantamweight title.

It was an unbelievable slugfest between two highly skilled fighters. Barrera, ironically, never gave McKinney a rematch. A classic gem of 1996.

[elmersalsa]

Next, The Baby Faced Assassin destroys former WBO World Super Bantamweight Champion Orlando Fernandez of Puerto Rico.

It was a slugfest from start to finish. But the 33-year old Puerto Rican couldn't cope with the youth and speed of the young and prime champion Marco Antonio Barrera, who at 22 was at the very best of his career.

It was Barrera's 6th title defense of the low regarded WBO World Super Bantamweight title.

Barrera wins by TKO in 7, and is undefeated at 42-0 with 29KOs.

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Barrera at this point was 42-0, with 30KOs. Next, is challenger American Jesse Magana.

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After defeating American Jesse Magana by knockout in 11 in a hard fight, the Baby Faced Assassin from Mexico, Marco Antonio Barrera, improves to his undefeated record of 43-0, with 31KOs.

Next opponent? Was former WBA World Bantamweight Champion Junior Jones of Brooklyn, NY, who at 42-2, with 26KOs, was coming from a 9-fight win streak.

For 5 exciting rounds, Barrera and Jones hit each other at will. Jones, at 5'8", was taller than Barrera and looked buffed and toned for this fight. He looked really strong. He took this fight very seriously. Jones also had a good reach reminding us the great Thomas Hearns.

And Barrera finally lost his aura of invincibility in a shocking fashion. A big right hand that looked like a half hook put him on the canvas. When Barrera got up, Jones gave Barrera an barrage of punches and the referee stopped the fight.

Ironically, Jones did not win by knockout but by disqualification. According to the referee, Barrera's cornermen entered the ring before the referee stopped the bout.

It was November 22, 1996 at The Ice Palace in Tampa, FL.

That same month in that year, the great Evander Holyfield shocked the world when he stopped the great Mike Tyson for the WBA World Heavyweight Championship.

Barrera loses his WBO World Super Bantamweight crown to Jones. His aura of invincibility was in question. Unbeaten no more.

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The rematch between "Poison" Junior Jones and the great Marco Antonio Barrera, The Baby Faced Assassin from Mexico City, Mexico was underway on a Friday night of April 18, 1997 at Las Vegas Hilton Hotel.

Both fighters were prepared for the fight. It was a fantastic contest. It was a close fight. Especially, in the first 5 rounds just like in the first fight.

But, after round 7, "Poison" Jones of Brooklyn, NY started to take over. To me, Barrera seemed a little gun shy in throwing his wicked combinations that were accustomed to see. Was he wary of Poison's right hand? I believe yes. Jones was throwing that right hand at will. He was taking the initiative from round 7 on.

In round 9, Barrera got a point deducted for a hitting a low blow under Jones's waist. I didn't see it as a low blow. It was a perfect hook to the middle of the stomach, but because the American referee, the legendary Mills Lane warned him twice already, he thought that Barrera threw a low blow for the third time. It was a 10-8 round for Jones.

They kept throwing leather for the rest of the fight. Too bad that it wasn't 15 rounds. Barrera in my view, won the last 2 rounds. In my view, Jones won the fight. No controversy this time. Jones won fair and square and retained his WBO World Super Bantamweight title.

I had it 115-113, in favor of Jones.

Barrera loses for the second time in his career. His only 2 losses so far against the same man: "Poison" Junior Jones!

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Barrera falls to 43-2, with 31KOs.

Ironically, Junior Jones had at the time as many fights as Barrera. He improves to 44-2, with 26KOs.

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After losing back to back fights versus American Junior Jones, The Baby Faced Assassin, the great Marco Antonio Barrera of Mexico City, Mexico won 3 fights in a row against inferior competition. All by knockout.

This prompted Barrera for a title shot in a vacant championship bout for the WBO World Super Bantamweight title.

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Barrera now is 46-2, with 32KOs.