Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte | BT PPV - 23 April 2022

[Terminator666]

I thought Fury would have wanted to fight Usyk. Wonder if he didn’t fancy his chances?

[maverick23]

I thought Fury would have wanted to fight Usyk. Wonder if he didn’t fancy his chances?

Same but he seemingly wanted a tune up. Strange.

[JamesPhilips]

I thought Fury would have wanted to fight Usyk. Wonder if he didn’t fancy his chances?

More likely he didn’t want to pay any money for Joshua to step aside

[brilo33]

hope it happens whyte deserves his shot in a way, i think fury will beat him up 3rd ko,

[jimmystone]

I thought Fury would have wanted to fight Usyk. Wonder if he didn’t fancy his chances?

I think Pukka Cheese's post on the previous page may provide the answer. It looks like he has one fight left on his ESPN deal. Probably wasn't enough money on the plate for Tyson personally to risk it all against Usyk.

It's Tyson's promoters who were offering the step aside. Not Tyson. Tyson's boxing income is fixed until after this fight.

[Terminator666]

Is there a date for the Whyte fight- I presume March 26th is scrapped.?

[coneye]

Don't know why anyone doubted this fight might happen ,,, Fury really look at him regardless of what you think of him , he's fought AN AGING kLITCHKO , then would'nt defend ,, then he was brave and took a chance against one of technicly the worst champs ever , ,, then he was faced with

Usyk ,,, who could probably box his ears off and beat him

AJ ,, who has power , but is a technicly better boxer than Wilder , so stands more than a punchers chance .... OR

Whyte , a flabby , ex kickboxer , who's lost to Aj , got ko'e by an aging boxer

Really given Furys history who really, is suprised when he fights Whyte , for me its a no brainer it was always going to happen , think theve been screwe by Hearn has well , he has cleverly out manouvered them into biding far more than the fights worth , 41 million to see a fat giant drug cheat , V a fat kickboxer drug cheat ..... I think Eddie constantly telling the world he's going in hard to win it has really forced Frank to dig deep

[gregregegg]

fornicate me thats a big bid. I understand this is done, but is it technicaly allowed for a promoter to win a bid and then pay there fighter less than the bid suggests (if its agreed apon)...

If thats what there doing its kinda a joke and brings a mockery to there entire "whyte dosent even deserve 20%" argument, because if they are paying Fury less than his split they are effectivly bidding lower on a more even split.

Wish they could dig out that march date, but ultimently ill just be stoked if it happens.

[daz74]

aren't fa semi finals around then ?

They are the week before.

Saturday, 23 April
2022 FA Cup semi-finals

Connor Benn pencilled in for 23rd

[brilo33]

Don't know why anyone doubted this fight might happen ,,, Fury really look at him regardless of what you think of him , he's fought AN AGING kLITCHKO , then would'nt defend ,, then he was brave and took a chance against one of technicly the worst champs ever , ,, then he was faced with

Usyk ,,, who could probably box his ears off and beat him

AJ ,, who has power , but is a technicly better boxer than Wilder , so stands more than a punchers chance .... OR

Whyte , a flabby , ex kickboxer , who's lost to Aj , got ko'e by an aging boxer

Really given Furys history who really, is suprised when he fights Whyte , for me its a no brainer it was always going to happen , think theve been screwe by Hearn has well , he has cleverly out manouvered them into biding far more than the fights worth , 41 million to see a fat giant drug cheat , V a fat kickboxer drug cheat ..... I think Eddie constantly telling the world he's going in hard to win it has really forced Frank to dig deep

come on con though do you pine for the days of holyfield hmmmmmm v tyson hmmmmm honeslty the only fighter i would say was clean was henry cooper

[dan28uk]

They are the week before.

Saturday, 23 April
2022 FA Cup semi-finals

Connor Benn pencilled in for 23rd

at where ?

[595179]

Saturday, 23 April
2022 FA Cup semi-finals

Connor Benn pencilled in for 23rd

at where ?

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[dan28uk]

[daz74]

Don't know why anyone doubted this fight might happen ,,, Fury really look at him regardless of what you think of him , he's fought AN AGING kLITCHKO , then would'nt defend ,, then he was brave and took a chance against one of technicly the worst champs ever , ,, then he was faced with

Usyk ,,, who could probably box his ears off and beat him

AJ ,, who has power , but is a technicly better boxer than Wilder , so stands more than a punchers chance .... OR

Whyte , a flabby , ex kickboxer , who's lost to Aj , got ko'e by an aging boxer

Really given Furys history who really, is suprised when he fights Whyte , for me its a no brainer it was always going to happen , think theve been screwe by Hearn has well , he has cleverly out manouvered them into biding far more than the fights worth , 41 million to see a fat giant drug cheat , V a fat kickboxer drug cheat ..... I think Eddie constantly telling the world he's going in hard to win it has really forced Frank to dig deep

Yeah, and the fight will end up on DAZN !

[coneye]

Don't know why anyone doubted this fight might happen ,,, Fury really look at him regardless of what you think of him , he's fought AN AGING kLITCHKO , then would'nt defend ,, then he was brave and took a chance against one of technicly the worst champs ever , ,, then he was faced with

Usyk ,,, who could probably box his ears off and beat him

AJ ,, who has power , but is a technicly better boxer than Wilder , so stands more than a punchers chance .... OR

Whyte , a flabby , ex kickboxer , who's lost to Aj , got ko'e by an aging boxer

Really given Furys history who really, is suprised when he fights Whyte , for me its a no brainer it was always going to happen , think theve been screwe by Hearn has well , he has cleverly out manouvered them into biding far more than the fights worth , 41 million to see a fat giant drug cheat , V a fat kickboxer drug cheat ..... I think Eddie constantly telling the world he's going in hard to win it has really forced Frank to dig deep

come on con though do you pine for the days of holyfield hmmmmmm v tyson hmmmmm honeslty the only fighter i would say was clean was henry cooper

You Cheat your a cheat , simple , does'nt make it right to rob your neigbors house , because most in the street are robbers ,,, Besides being cheats these two are both cherry pickers , , sooner Usyk cleans out the division the better

[daz74]

Without a robust guaranteed pathway to a future shot at the Undisputed there was never likely to be step asides. Fury’s behaviour is more erratic than usual, it’s a little sad to see him unravelling. His ego won’t allow him to fight on a Matchroom card and so the pressure is on for Top Rank to bid real big tomorrow.

Would Fury vacate before fighting on a Matchroom card? It's definitely plausible. I hope it does go ahead. The press conferences between Frank/Eddie and Fury/Whyte will be glorious.

Why would Tyson vacate rather than fight on a Matchroom show? I find that attitude really strange. The fight with Whyte will either be in the U.K. (where he’ll have more fans than Whyte) or Saudi (where he had his match with WWE) so it’s not like he’ll have to fight somewhere completely unknown. It’s also not like it’s Triller promoting the fight and there will be chances of delays etc. Matchroom have a good reputation and I don’t really remember any away fighters (bar Teofimo Senior) having an issue with how they were dealt with.

your logic is absolutely sound, but fury’s logic is anything but ….

[gregregegg]

Imagine Eddie putting a big free dazn card on same time… would be a laugh.

[coneye]

Imagine Eddie putting a big free dazn card on same time… would be a laugh.

And would'nt suprise me ,,, Benn ---- Broner ,,, which would pull the numbers

[brilo33]

Don't know why anyone doubted this fight might happen ,,, Fury really look at him regardless of what you think of him , he's fought AN AGING kLITCHKO , then would'nt defend ,, then he was brave and took a chance against one of technicly the worst champs ever , ,, then he was faced with

Usyk ,,, who could probably box his ears off and beat him

AJ ,, who has power , but is a technicly better boxer than Wilder , so stands more than a punchers chance .... OR

Whyte , a flabby , ex kickboxer , who's lost to Aj , got ko'e by an aging boxer

Really given Furys history who really, is suprised when he fights Whyte , for me its a no brainer it was always going to happen , think theve been screwe by Hearn has well , he has cleverly out manouvered them into biding far more than the fights worth , 41 million to see a fat giant drug cheat , V a fat kickboxer drug cheat ..... I think Eddie constantly telling the world he's going in hard to win it has really forced Frank to dig deep

come on con though do you pine for the days of holyfield hmmmmmm v tyson hmmmmm honeslty the only fighter i would say was clean was henry cooper

You Cheat your a cheat , simple , does'nt make it right to rob your neigbors house , because most in the street are robbers ,,, Besides being cheats these two are both cherry pickers , , sooner Usyk cleans out the division the better

i agree it dont make it right but Usyk how did he build so much muscle in his 30s when most men are losing muscle after 28 , i dont like it but i am such a distrusting person i belive there all tainted makes it easier to watch. wwf wrestlers were like santa claus when you realsied they were fake it was over

[oogiebe]

Did I hear that Fwankie made a 41m bid for this fight and won? Yes I did!

ESPN: Fury's co-promoter, allegedly's Queensberry Promotions, won the rights to the WBC heavyweight title fight between Fury and Dillian Whyte with a commitment of $41,025,000 at Friday's purse bid. Fury, the champion, will earn $29,538,000.

[gregregegg]

come on con though do you pine for the days of holyfield hmmmmmm v tyson hmmmmm honeslty the only fighter i would say was clean was henry cooper

You Cheat your a cheat , simple , does'nt make it right to rob your neigbors house , because most in the street are robbers ,,, Besides being cheats these two are both cherry pickers , , sooner Usyk cleans out the division the better

i agree it dont make it right but Usyk how did he build so much muscle in his 30s when most men are losing muscle after 28 , i dont like it but i am such a distrusting person i belive there all tainted makes it easier to watch. wwf wrestlers were like santa claus when you realsied they were fake it was over

how much muscle did he build how quick?? he went from about 215ish lb ripped his entire pro carrer while watching his calories, to 220lb with a higher bodyfat percent, over a couple of years.. is that undoable in your 30s....

[brilo33]

You Cheat your a cheat , simple , does'nt make it right to rob your neigbors house , because most in the street are robbers ,,, Besides being cheats these two are both cherry pickers , , sooner Usyk cleans out the division the better

i agree it dont make it right but Usyk how did he build so much muscle in his 30s when most men are losing muscle after 28 , i dont like it but i am such a distrusting person i belive there all tainted makes it easier to watch. wwf wrestlers were like santa claus when you realsied they were fake it was over

how much muscle did he build how quick?? he went from about 215ish lb ripped his entire pro carrer while watching his calories, to 220lb with a higher bodyfat percent, over a couple of years.. is that undoable in your 30s....

yea it is naturaly , especially if he has lifted weights before , a natural lifter can look to gain about 40 pounds of muscle ever, most will come from newbie gains as a young man in early 20s after in your 30s you will be happy to gain a few pounds of muscle again unless your a real body builder , wheres he fit the boxing in

[polecateddy]

i agree it dont make it right but Usyk how did he build so much muscle in his 30s when most men are losing muscle after 28 , i dont like it but i am such a distrusting person i belive there all tainted makes it easier to watch. wwf wrestlers were like santa claus when you realsied they were fake it was over

how much muscle did he build how quick?? he went from about 215ish lb ripped his entire pro carrer while watching his calories, to 220lb with a higher bodyfat percent, over a couple of years.. is that undoable in your 30s....

yea it is naturaly , especially if he has lifted weights before , a natural lifter can look to gain about 40 pounds of muscle ever, most will come from newbie gains as a young man in early 20s after in your 30s you will be happy to gain a few pounds of muscle again unless your a real body builder , wheres he fit the boxing in

You'd have to be incredibly naive to think Usyk's body recomposition from cruiserweight to heavyweight wasn't fueled by a big fat stack of PED's. The Holyfield blueprint. The PED's both massively assist with size and strength gains, and also quite importantly maintain muscle mass when trying to get bodyfat down to be at least in the ballpark of 10-12%. I don't think you'd find many clean heavyweight boxers. For someone like Whyte he would absolutely need drugs to elevate his level, as he is in no way naturally talented enough to make it internationally any other way.

[brilo33]

how much muscle did he build how quick?? he went from about 215ish lb ripped his entire pro carrer while watching his calories, to 220lb with a higher bodyfat percent, over a couple of years.. is that undoable in your 30s....

yea it is naturaly , especially if he has lifted weights before , a natural lifter can look to gain about 40 pounds of muscle ever, most will come from newbie gains as a young man in early 20s after in your 30s you will be happy to gain a few pounds of muscle again unless your a real body builder , wheres he fit the boxing in

You'd have to be incredibly naive to think Usyk's body recomposition from cruiserweight to heavyweight wasn't fueled by a big fat stack of PED's. The Holyfield blueprint. The PED's both massively assist with size and strength gains, and also quite importantly maintain muscle mass when trying to get bodyfat down to be at least in the ballpark of 10-12%. I don't think you'd find many clean heavyweight boxers. For someone like Whyte he would absolutely need drugs to elevate his level, as he is in no way naturally talented enough to make it internationally any other way.

i know it is enhanced , when i wrote yea it is naturaly i was answering the quote question was it impossible, yes it is impossible to naturaly to grow that size with out help banfg on it

[gregregegg]

how much muscle did he build how quick?? he went from about 215ish lb ripped his entire pro carrer while watching his calories, to 220lb with a higher bodyfat percent, over a couple of years.. is that undoable in your 30s....

yea it is naturaly , especially if he has lifted weights before , a natural lifter can look to gain about 40 pounds of muscle ever, most will come from newbie gains as a young man in early 20s after in your 30s you will be happy to gain a few pounds of muscle again unless your a real body builder , wheres he fit the boxing in

You'd have to be incredibly naive to think Usyk's body recomposition from cruiserweight to heavyweight wasn't fueled by a big fat stack of PED's. The Holyfield blueprint. The PED's both massively assist with size and strength gains, and also quite importantly maintain muscle mass when trying to get bodyfat down to be at least in the ballpark of 10-12%,

He was about 215 when he was a cruiser weight and thats watching his diet. if your 215 on a restricted diet, and you unrestrict it, is it outragous to put in 3 lb of mucle and 3lb of fat over 3 years... because honestly if you look at usyk, thats about the extent of his "Body recomposition"... People act like he put on 20 lbs of mucel overnight.... he was never really 200lbs, he cut water weight to 200lbs.

That said, i dont know if he is on PEDS, he is an elite athlete so there is a fair chance. But his "body transformation" is absolutly not evidence of that.