Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte | BT PPV - 23 April 2022

[maverick23]

Be interesting to see where they go with this , indoors at Manchester or O2 or risk an outdoors fight ? I'd imagine be pretty easy to shift tickets and get PPV buys if it is a 10pm ring time

I would have thought their biggest revenue stream will be U.K. PPVs. Whyte isn’t a big name in the US so PPV over there will be tough so I think they’ll go U.K. time and in an outdoor stadium.

[forcefraser]

We should see the Usyk v Joshua rematch announv3d soon, unless AJ doesn't fancy it?

[CaptainSpacerod]

Be interesting to see where they go with this , indoors at Manchester or O2 or risk an outdoors fight ? I'd imagine be pretty easy to shift tickets and get PPV buys if it is a 10pm ring time

It’’ll have to be indoors. These two can’t sell out a 50k plus stadium.

[maverick23]

Be interesting to see where they go with this , indoors at Manchester or O2 or risk an outdoors fight ? I'd imagine be pretty easy to shift tickets and get PPV buys if it is a 10pm ring time

It’’ll have to be indoors. These two can’t sell out a 50k plus stadium.

Disagree. I think it does 50k and probably more. Fury isn’t fighting a random that the casuals would have never of.

[595179]

Be interesting to see where they go with this , indoors at Manchester or O2 or risk an outdoors fight ? I'd imagine be pretty easy to shift tickets and get PPV buys if it is a 10pm ring time

It’’ll have to be indoors. These two can’t sell out a 50k plus stadium.

Mickey reckons Fury is bigger than Joshua, so it'll sell 80k easy. I'm surprised there isn't a Mega Stadium being erected just for this fight.

[Manchester Hitman]

Be interesting to see where they go with this , indoors at Manchester or O2 or risk an outdoors fight ? I'd imagine be pretty easy to shift tickets and get PPV buys if it is a 10pm ring time

It’’ll have to be indoors. These two can’t sell out a 50k plus stadium.

I think the fight will be in London not Wales. Late April the weather will be fine for a stadium without a roof. My money is on either the Emirates or West Ham.

[CaptainSpacerod]

It’’ll have to be indoors. These two can’t sell out a 50k plus stadium.

Disagree. I think it does 50k and probably more. Fury isn’t fighting a random that the casuals would have never of.

I don’t think Whyte has a sufficiently high profile to get stadium numbers. He’s a slightly younger version of Chisora. Would Fury Chisora 3 sell out a stadium

[CaptainSpacerod]

I think the fight will be in London not Wales. Late April the weather will be fine for a stadium without a roof. My money is on either the Emirates or West Ham.

I think the only conceivable way this fight justifies a stadium setting is if Tyson plays the homecoming / United fan angle and they hold it at Old Trafford

[595179]

I think the fight will be in London not Wales. Late April the weather will be fine for a stadium without a roof. My money is on either the Emirates or West Ham.

I think the only conceivable way this fight justifies a stadium setting is if Tyson plays the homecoming / United fan angle and they hold it at Old Trafford

Doesn't Luke Fury class himself as Irish?

[CaptainSpacerod]

Doesn't Luke Fury class himself as Irish?

He seemed to be very proud to be an Englishman at Euro 2016

[595179]

Doesn't Luke Fury class himself as Irish?

He seemed to be very proud to be an Englishman at Euro 2016

Is his fake birth certificate Irish or English?

[Coco]

Doesn't Luke Fury class himself as Irish?

He seemed to be very proud to be an Englishman at Euro 2016

Is his fake birth certificate Irish or English?

He didn't have one but he got a signed affidavit from Andy Lee to say their grandparents were brother and sister.
In Ireland you only need one grandparent to be Irish to claim nationality.

[coneye]

He seemed to be very proud to be an Englishman at Euro 2016

Is his fake birth certificate Irish or English?

He didn't have one but he got a signed affidavit from Andy Lee to say their grandparents were brother and sister.
In Ireland you only need one grandparent to be Irish to claim nationality.

Think Tyson would say he's Nigerian if it would help make some more money ,,,

[maverick23]

It’’ll have to be indoors. These two can’t sell out a 50k plus stadium.

Disagree. I think it does 50k and probably more. Fury isn’t fighting a random that the casuals would have never of.

I don’t think Whyte has a sufficiently high profile to get stadium numbers. He’s a slightly younger version of Chisora. Would Fury Chisora 3 sell out a stadium

No - it wouldn’t because we’ve seen it twice.

Anyway, it doesn’t matter as we’ll find out within a couple of weeks.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Tyson Fury vs Dillian Whyte Fight Set For April 23rd, Reports Say

As fight fans are aware, Tyson Fury will defend his WBC heavyweight title against his mandatory challenger Dillian Whyte next; allegedly having won the purse bid to promote the fight along with Bob Arum. Now, according to a news story from UK tabloid The Sun, the date for the fight is April 23rd, with an official announcement expected next week. The Principality Stadium in Cardiff is the frontrunner to host the fight, yet Fury’s home-town of Manchester is also said to be in the frame.

Fury, who has vowed to give the 28-2(19) Whyte a beating before knocking him out, also said that this fight is “the biggest British dust-up since Lennox Lewis Vs. Frank Bruno.” Interestingly, the 1993 battle between Lewis and Bruno took place in Cardiff. Fury is a hefty favourite to get the win over Whyte yet some good judges are predicting a tough night for both men, and an exciting fight for us fans. Bob Arum has gone as far as to say Whyte, with his punching power, presents more of a threat to Fury and his belt and unbeaten record than Deontay Wilder did. Agree with that if you want.

But Whyte IS a dangerous fighter; he is hungry, having been made to wait an age for his first crack at a world title, and he has said numerous times that he got the best of Fury in the gym in sparring. We all know, ‘what happens in sparring stays in sparring,’ and time and again we’ve heard how Fighter A bossed Fighter B in sparring, only for Fighter A to destroy Fighter B in the only place that matters: in the ring.

Fury, 31-0-1(22) may not destroy Whyte, and he may not even get a stoppage win, but for some people it’s tough to make a case for Whyte winning. What we can expect is for Whyte to give his absolute all. He’s been made to wait, he’s convinced he has what it takes to beat Fury and now “The Bodysnatcher” is less than three months away from the single biggest fight of his life. Wherever this fight is held, you can expect the tickets to move fast for this one.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Bob Arum predicting 500,000 PPV buys on ESPN for Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte

Top Rank CEO Bob Arum predicts 500,000 pay-per-view buys on ESPN in the U.S for the British heavyweight match-up between WBC champion Tyson Fury and Dillian Whyte.

With the vast $41 million winning bid put in by Top Rank last Friday at the purse bid for the Fury-Whyte fight, the fight must draw huge pay-per-view numbers in the U.S and the UK.

It likely won’t be enough for the investors to recoup their $41 million for the Fury vs. Whyte might if it only sells a lot of PPV buys in the UK and fills a stadium. They’re probably going to need a large number of buys in the U.S as well, and that’s where the problem lies.

Scott Gilfoid is predicting Fury vs. Whyte will sell between 100,000 to 150,000 PPV buys on ESPN in the U.S. That’s under ideal circumstances, assuming that Whyte will help out with the hard work of promoting the event.

Fury vs. Whyte = non-seller on ESPN PPV

It’s just not a great fight on paper, and whatever chance it has of doing decent numbers will go down the drain if Whyte chooses not to help out in the event’s promotion.

If Whyte drags his feet and chooses not to help Fury promote the fight to interest U.S boxing fans, we could see the match bringing in only 50K buys on ESPN PPV. In plain English, it would be a DISASTER.

Whyte, 34, isn’t a recognizable name among the casual boxing fans in America. Indeed, you can argue that YouTuber Jake Paul is far better known in the U.S than Whyte, meaning that it’s going to be challenging to attract American fans to want to open their wallets to pay the likely $75 asking price for Fury-Whyte.

If ESPN PPV dropped the price for Fury vs. Whyte to around $15, it would bring in massive numbers. They’re not going to do that, though, because it would still require a tremendous amount of buys to help the investors make their money back.

500K PPV buys are VERY ambitious numbers that Arum is predicting for the Fury-Whyte fight, as that would mean the match will bring in more buys than the two Deontay Wilder-Fury fights that took place on PPV.



The odds of Fury vs. Whyte coming anywhere close to 500,000 PPV buys in the U.S are virtually zero. What’s working against the fight bringing in those types of numbers are the following:

• Whyte an unknown with U.S fans
• Dillian’s recent knockout loss to Alexander Povetkin
• No visibility in the U.S for Whyte
• Scheduling fight for UK time slot

[maverick23]

Didn’t Bob also say Wilder/Fury 2 would do several million PPVs and that Crawford/Porter could do a million?!

A mid/late afternoon PPV between 2 Brits isn’t doing 500k buys in the US at c.$70!

[Ruthless-RKO]

Didn’t Bob also say Wilder/Fury 2 would do several million PPVs and that Crawford/Porter could do a million?!

A mid/late afternoon PPV between 2 Brits isn’t doing 500k buys in the US at c.$70!

I really think they should consider the price for the US fans..

But it may get them the same revenue.. Not always about buys, it's the revenue.

100k buys at $50 = $5m

60k buy at $75 = $5.25m

People do look at the price first though.

[daz74]

Warren on IFL - nothing yet from Whyte, no date yet, so no contracts agreed …….

[Ruthless-RKO]

Is Dillian Whyte preparing to pull out of Tyson Fury fight?

There is growing speculation on social media that Dillian Whyte is preparing to pull out of his fight with WBC heavyweight champion Tyson Fury due to his unhappiness at the 80/20 purse split.

Whyte (28-2, 19 KOs) and his promoter Eddie Hearn hasn’t said a word since they lost last Friday’s purse bid to promoters Frank W, Bob Arum, and Top Rank.

Initially, it was thought that Whyte’s silence was an indication that he was going to sulk and choose not to help out with the promotion of his title fight against the unbeaten Fury (31-0-1, 22 KOs), but it’s not believed by many fans that Dillian is going to pull out of the fight.

Is Whyte pulling out of fight?

Fans think that Matchroom Boxing promoter Hearn has a better deal for Whyte against either Anthony Joshua or Oleksandr Usyk, which would leave Fury high & dry, without a dance partner for his next fight.

It’s hard to believe that after years of complaining about not getting a title shot, Whyte would pull out of a fight after finally getting his wish to battle for a strap, but it could be happening.

It’s no secret that the 34-year-old Whyte is unhappy with the WBC over the purse split, as he wanted a split closer to 55/45 instead of the 80/20 split. His promoter Hearn isn’t happy either.

“It’s nothing to do with Matchroom. We’re dealing directly with [Dillian’s] team. It’s up to him. If he wants us to go through Matchroom, then we will. If we don’t have to, then we won’t,” said F Warren to Boxing Social on the Fury vs. Whyte fight. “That’s going to be up to Dillian.

“It’s a straightforward contract. It’s a purse bid, there’s no options. This is the fight, this is what you’re getting paid, as per the purse bid. This is where it’s at. Just be there,” Warren continued on the Fury vs. Whyte fight,” said Warren.

Assuming Whyte does choose to pull out of the title fight, Fury’s promoters Warren and Arum will need to scramble for an opponent for his next fight. Can they get Andy Ruiz Jr. to step in as a replacement for Whyte?



Warren hoping Dillian cooperates

“Hopefully, I hope, will help us promote the thing because it’s a great fight for the fans,” said Warren. “It’s going to be a big occasion. It’s going to be great for Tyson and great for Dillian to be involved in such a spectacle.

“It’ll be great for him to cooperate. I hope he does. I hope he behaves professionally as we will towards him. He’s strong, he’s tough and if you look at the background he’s coming from, he’s done exceptionally well,” Warren said of Whyte.

“He definitely has got a lot of self-belief, he can punch and he fancies the job with Tyson. He’s been sitting there for over 1000 days waiting for his opportunity. Well, he’s got it now, and here’s his chance to prove what he’s worth, what he’s got in the tank.

“He’s continually said he can beat Tyson. He obviously feels he’s seen some kind of chink in Tyson’s armor. He’s got his chance now to exploit it and get very well paid for it,” Warren said of Whyte.

“He’s [Fury] had one fight in the last two years. What do I think? I think Dillian is going to have a really tough fight, but he knows that better than anybody.

“Tyson, he knows this guy is coming to give him a tough fight, and you know these domestic big fights, there’s always something extra in them. Nothing is forgone. There are always twists and turns. You know Dillian is a warrior and he’s going to come to fight,” said Warren.

[maverick23]

Hmmm….

So Eddie might be looking at Whyte vs Usyk next to give AJ time to prepare to fight the winner.

Whyte will probably get more for that than his purse against Fury, it’s for more belts and it’s a more winnable fight for him. Also allows him to continue to push legally against the WBC.

It’s strange hearing Frank saying he hopes Whyte helps the promotion given how openly happy Frank was at Whyte losing against Povetkin. If Whyte takes the fight then he’ll get paid exactly the same regardless of how much promotion he does so he’s unlikely to want to help them out.

It’s infuriating how long things are dragging on at the moment. I don’t really care who fights who - I just want to see some fights!

[polecateddy]

I think it’s all about Fury’s weight.

17 stone (unlikely!) - light on his feet, easy decision/maybe late stoppage
18 stone - not vintage Fury, but gets the job done 3-4 points up on the cards
19 stone - it’s a maul, Tyson is hurt. It could have gone either way
19 and a half stone+ - Tyson looks a shell. Hurt regularly and stopped for the first time.

It seems completely bonkers to try and rate Fury near the top historically if his response to a big fight is to come in with 25% plus body fat, and as a non-puncher, then try and walk down the opponent. If that wasn’t an eventual recipe for disaster, I don’t know what is?!

[unknownman79]

Whyte the coward has gone into hiding gets a title shot and still not happy. What a whinging chicken.

[garethhop]

fornicate Dillian Whyte.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Hmmm….

So Eddie might be looking at Whyte vs Usyk next to give AJ time to prepare to fight the winner.

Whyte will probably get more for that than his purse against Fury, it’s for more belts and it’s a more winnable fight for him. Also allows him to continue to push legally against the WBC.

It’s strange hearing Frank saying he hopes Whyte helps the promotion given how openly happy Frank was at Whyte losing against Povetkin. If Whyte takes the fight then he’ll get paid exactly the same regardless of how much promotion he does so he’s unlikely to want to help them out.

It’s infuriating how long things are dragging on at the moment. I don’t really care who fights who - I just want to see some fights!

He won't be the A side against Usyk..

It would be on DAZN, so not PPV.

he'd had to give sanction fees to 3 orgs instead of 1 or even 4 if you include the IBO.

I really don't think he'd get THAT much more.

Plus there's the 10% sitting there for the winner. If he's confident enough.

$7.4m is currently £5.5m today. Could change, but it won't be a big change up or down ..

The additional 10% if he wins is $4.1m which today converts around £3.1m..

Imagine Hearn was the winning bid? Whyte would have been worse off..