Fury v Whyte?

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Fury v Whyte?

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It looks as if this is finally on, but it took a ridiculous 80/20 split in favour of Fury to do it.

So whatever might happen in the ring Fury can't lose this one. No wonder Fury didn't want to face Usyk when he can get £25 million to face Whyte.

Once again highlighting the fact that this is a business more than a sport.

Basically Dillian Whyte must win or risk being short changed once again.

Meanwhile FW might wonder whether his £31 million winning bid was a little overambitious.

In any case it should be a good fight and it also green lights the AJ / Usyk rematch.

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Warren bid £31m while Matchroom offered £24m giving Fury's team control of the all-British heavyweight fight which must happen by 29 April.

The split is set to be 80/20 in the favour of Fury, who will pocket £25m to Whyte's £6m. That split may change if Whyte is successful in his appeal to the WBC for a bigger share.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/60162281
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Its actualy a 72-18 split with 10 to the winner. Either way its not crazy, i thought whyte should of got 70-30ish, but he played sneaky money games with his discolsed purses (and therefor sanctioning fees) and therefor WBC were never going to do him any favors. Whyte still stands to make 7.5 million dollars even if he loses so i dont think he can have any massive complaints.
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Are people actually excited for this one? Don't think it's all that interesting to be honest.
Lots of fuss being made about purse bids, it seems folks are more interested in the promotions side of the sport than any actual boxing.
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im up for it, you never know with fury. sure he beat up wilder , but otto wallin easily couldve been given a stoppage win over him and hurt him. consistently getting out and fighting a mix of good opposition is something furys never done, lets see how discplined he is in being champ
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margaret thatcher wrote: 29 Jan 2022, 08:34 im up for it, you never know with fury. sure he beat up wilder , but otto wallin easily couldve been given a stoppage win over him and hurt him. consistently getting out and fighting a mix of good opposition is something furys never done, lets see how discplined he is in being champ
Good post. I'm curious if he is motivated to do anything but run his mouth
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Fightnight Scores wrote: 29 Jan 2022, 08:17 Are people actually excited for this one? Don't think it's all that interesting to be honest.
Lots of fuss being made about purse bids, it seems folks are more interested in the promotions side of the sport than any actual boxing.
I'm excited about it. Main reason is Whyte deserved his shot and is always entertaining.
He will give 100%
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Whyte's such a plodder and falls in love with his power. The only path I can see for him is if he bombs out Fury, which is a possibility. Outside of a puncher's chance, I just see no pathway to victory for him.

Still, it's a fight that needs to happen. Whyte probably has the 3rd best resume in the division, so it's a no-brainer that he gets a title shot. I just wish the Wallin fight happened before this. Would've been a great "eliminator."
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tiny_acres wrote: 29 Jan 2022, 10:52
Fightnight Scores wrote: 29 Jan 2022, 08:17 Are people actually excited for this one? Don't think it's all that interesting to be honest.
Lots of fuss being made about purse bids, it seems folks are more interested in the promotions side of the sport than any actual boxing.
I'm excited about it. Main reason is Whyte deserved his shot and is always entertaining.
He will give 100%
Granted he has been waiting his turn forever! But I just think Fury is levels above in every department. Whyte I suppose has the preverbial punchers chance, but since Fury got up from Wilder I'm not sure Whyte could keep fury down. He is, to me, somewhat of a slugger with not much in the way of boxing IQ.

I suppose when Fury has Joshua or Usyk as potential opponents, a bout vs Whyte is just underwhelming. but needs must!
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if the fight actually happens, it'll mean the end of Whyte moaning about being ignored. should be some meat and potato slugging going on though. you need that sometimes
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This will be a fun affair. Hot verbal exchanges in the buildup and a one guy beating the hell out of the other one in the ring. A case, when no intrigue match can become entertaining.
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who knows, easy to say fury just batters him easy, but fury couldnt easily beat the hell out of otto wallin and couldve easily had the fight stopped against him + was hurt . given problems other times by lesser fighters than whyte. that's why they gotta fight da fights, we will see :box:
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margaret thatcher wrote: 29 Jan 2022, 14:41 who knows, easy to say fury just batters him easy, but fury couldnt easily beat the hell out of otto wallin and couldve easily had the fight stopped against him + was hurt . given problems other times by lesser fighters than whyte. that's why they gotta fight da fights, we will see :box:
Fury surely will take Whyte more seriously than Otto back in the day. Furthermore, the cut caused problems that time.
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ya, back in the day just a couple fights ago

in fact, at everry stage of furys career, young prospect, emerging contender, and this latest one, he's had problems with lesser fighters than whyte. he should win but im looking forward to seeing him actually show it in the ring in a title defense
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margaret thatcher wrote: 29 Jan 2022, 14:45 ya, back in the day just a couple fights ago

in fact, at everry stage of furys career, young prospect, emerging contender, and this latest one, he's had problems with lesser fighters than whyte. he should win but im looking forward to seeing him actually show it in the ring in a title defense
A couple fights ago... and a couple of years. A bizarre situation, but the point isn't in this stuff. Fury prepares to fights in accordance with stakes and a level of his opponents. Whyte stays between the Gypsy King and the undisputed championship bout.
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Fightnight Scores wrote: 29 Jan 2022, 13:44
tiny_acres wrote: 29 Jan 2022, 10:52
Fightnight Scores wrote: 29 Jan 2022, 08:17 Are people actually excited for this one? Don't think it's all that interesting to be honest.
Lots of fuss being made about purse bids, it seems folks are more interested in the promotions side of the sport than any actual boxing.
I'm excited about it. Main reason is Whyte deserved his shot and is always entertaining.
He will give 100%
Granted he has been waiting his turn forever! But I just think Fury is levels above in every department. Whyte I suppose has the preverbial punchers chance, but since Fury got up from Wilder I'm not sure Whyte could keep fury down. He is, to me, somewhat of a slugger with not much in the way of boxing IQ.

I suppose when Fury has Joshua or Usyk as potential opponents, a bout vs Whyte is just underwhelming. but needs must!
So are we just supposed to give Fury credit for a fight he has not encountered, because most think he will win easily?
Should a fighter who has done all that has been asked of him not get a title shot because we as fans do not give him a chance?
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I don't see how anyone can complain about this fight.
No.1 vs No.4 (ish).

Whyte talks a great game and is fun to watch too.
GET IT ON ! :box:
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skanksta wrote: 29 Jan 2022, 17:10 I don't see how anyone can complain about this fight.
No1 vs No.4 (ish).

Whyte talks a great game and is fun to watch too.
GET IT ON ! :box:


The buildup will be hilarious.

Whyte is not one to get intimidated easily as too many of Fury's opponents have been.

At the very least the HW division will look a lot clearer than it's been for years.

I'm guessing most neutrals will want Fury and AJ to win and set up a superfight, but there's little guarantee of that.

Even if Whyte and Usyk win, AJ v Fury is still a fight that should happen soon.
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tiny_acres wrote: 29 Jan 2022, 16:38
Fightnight Scores wrote: 29 Jan 2022, 13:44
tiny_acres wrote: 29 Jan 2022, 10:52

I'm excited about it. Main reason is Whyte deserved his shot and is always entertaining.
He will give 100%
Granted he has been waiting his turn forever! But I just think Fury is levels above in every department. Whyte I suppose has the preverbial punchers chance, but since Fury got up from Wilder I'm not sure Whyte could keep fury down. He is, to me, somewhat of a slugger with not much in the way of boxing IQ.

I suppose when Fury has Joshua or Usyk as potential opponents, a bout vs Whyte is just underwhelming. but needs must!
So are we just supposed to give Fury credit for a fight he has not encountered, because most think he will win easily?
Should a fighter who has done all that has been asked of him not get a title shot because we as fans do not give him a chance?
No not at all, and Whyte has earned his chance.....

My point is more that the last several years has been more about the heavyweight fights we've not seen than the ones we've had. Joshua and Wilder flirted for years before Fury came out of limbo and threw his spanner in the works.
Usyk-Fury to unite all the belts, Fury and Joshua in a huge UK fight are much more appealing than this bout.
It's a case of we have to wait, as we always do, for the stella bouts, but these guys are all getting older and none of them fight more than once a year.

Watch Whyte pull off the big upset now and put another spanner in the works :lol:
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Lol, Imagine Whyte vs Usyk for All The Marbles with AJ vs Fury on their undercard ! :lol:
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skanksta wrote: 29 Jan 2022, 17:37 Lol, Imagine Whyte vs Usyk for All The Marbles with AJ vs Fury on their undercard ! :lol:
Image Josh beats Usyk and we get the Whyte-AJ rematch for them all :KO:
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Not sure how anyone could think Whyte is being screwed at 80-20. Guy just got knocked cold by old man Povetkin. Lost to Joshua. Without a master promoter he really shouldn’t be in the position. Fury wins easy against the plodder. Whyte deserves a shot finally but by no means is he being screwed. Look at his record!
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Boxingguru75 wrote: 29 Jan 2022, 18:00 Not sure how anyone could think Whyte is being screwed at 80-20. Guy just got knocked cold by old man Povetkin. Lost to Joshua. Without a master promoter he really shouldn’t be in the position. Fury wins easy against the plodder. Whyte deserves a shot finally but by no means is he being screwed. Look at his record!
HIs record stands out ?! :maybe:
Not many consistently fight the best available like he has. His average quality of opponent is probably better than Fury's.

I think Dill is well worth 25% - he's good to watch and sells a fight as well as anyone.
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Very interesting fight because there is some grudge, bad blood and tension between the two dating back years, when Whyte supposedly manhandled Fury in sparring. The two have fired verbal shots at each other for years. It seemed Fury tried to duck mandatory Whyte like Wilder did for over two years. Both are very outspoken and not afraid to insult or speak ugly truths about the other. This grudge aspect has been largely missing in recent years. Wilder and Fury seemed like a scripted WWF rivalry more than a real fight. AJ vs Usyk and Ruiz were boring events, more like business events. Too nice to each other. Whyte vs Fury seems more like a real grudge fight and it will be a very colorful couple of months as the hype heats up. Love this fight.
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Boxingguru75 wrote: 29 Jan 2022, 18:00 Not sure how anyone could think Whyte is being screwed at 80-20. Guy just got knocked cold by old man Povetkin. Lost to Joshua. Without a master promoter he really shouldn’t be in the position. Fury wins easy against the plodder. Whyte deserves a shot finally but by no means is he being screwed. Look at his record!
He is walking away with nearly 8 million bucks.
No one should worry if he is making enough :lol:

I'm just curious how much this card is going to lose?
No way are either that big of draws
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I wonder what percentage of revenue will be UK, what percentage USA and what percentage "rest of the world".

Im completly ignorant on it, i dont know if it will be 70-20-10 or 30-40-30, or any other combo of numbers.
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