Untapped areas UK/Ire boxing

[Coco]

Bournemouth is a working class place?

[maverick23]

Southampton/Portsmouth area (& nearby Bournemouth )

Very working class places. Feel and look more like Northern cities than the other south coast towns.

A lot of talent around there - Chris Billam-Smith, Michael Mckinson, Joe Pigford, Ryan Garner, Mark Chamberlain, Lewis Edmondson, Ebonie Jones, Royston Barney-Smith

I think if a Hearn or Warren or whoever put on a show there it'd sell well. But for some reason they never do.

Where would they be able to have a show down there? I guess they’d need somewhere big enough for c.6,000 for the bigger promoters.

[Coco]

Tony Oakey always sold out the Mountbatten Centre

[mickey1975]

Bournemouth is a working class place?

I've no idea, but I understand you get that perception here as well. We have some crap areas, they just don't put them in the tourist brochure.

[Coco]

Bournemouth is a working class place?

I've no idea, but I understand you get that perception here as well. We have some crap areas, they just don't put them in the tourist brochure.

I've been a few times, a really nice place, done some security jobs there too, a real walk in the park.
I guess the poor folk have to live in Southhampton!

[mickey1975]

Bournemouth is a working class place?

I've no idea, but I understand you get that perception here as well. We have some crap areas, they just don't put them in the tourist brochure.

I've been a few times, a really nice place, done some security jobs there too, a real walk in the park.
I guess the poor folk have to live in Southhampton!

I've been to Portsmouth, working, that did have some shitholes.

[583940]

Bournemouth is a working class place?

I meant southampton and portsmouth

[583940]

I've no idea, but I understand you get that perception here as well. We have some crap areas, they just don't put them in the tourist brochure.

I've been a few times, a really nice place, done some security jobs there too, a real walk in the park.
I guess the poor folk have to live in Southhampton!

I've been to Portsmouth, working, that did have some shitholes.

Definitely does lol. It's the 2nd most densely populated place in the Uk after London.

[dookus]

Seen quite a few Portsmouth boxers on the white-collar shows in London

[mickey1975]

Seen quite a few Portsmouth boxers on the white-collar shows in London

Billy from here runs most of the unlicensed lads down there.

[dookus]

Seen quite a few Portsmouth boxers on the white-collar shows in London

Billy from here runs most of the unlicensed lads down there.

That's interesting to learn. Is there a bit more crossover between the amateurs and white collars up north these days? I remember seeing Billy at All Saints when he was turning over (nearly twenty years ago) and such things didn't exist then..

[mickey1975]

Seen quite a few Portsmouth boxers on the white-collar shows in London

Billy from here runs most of the unlicensed lads down there.

That's interesting to learn. Is there a bit more crossover between the amateurs and white collars up north these days? I remember seeing Billy at All Saints when he was turning over (nearly twenty years ago) and such things didn't exist then..

It's a very mixed bag. Some opponents are woeful. Really bad. Then you have some ex pros having a final go who could really hurt someone. Some ex schoolboy amateurs who can't be arsed to go through the medicals, etc to box am. I must say, though, one of the best fights I've ever seen live was Michael Fafera v Mark Holmes, over five rounds. Brilliant in the championship rounds! And Mikey turned over after that and has never fought am in his life.

[Manchester Massive]

If we're to go off the theory that deprived areas produce more boxers then in England you'd expect there is untapped potential talent in areas like Blackpool and Middlesbrough. Also Burnley, Blackburn, Bradford.

Is there much happening in these areas? Brian Rose from Blackpool still on the go.

Blackpool is a good shout, Sharpstyle ABC is a top notch amateur gym there that has produced a lot of national champions, have always been impressed with their lads when have seen them out. Re: Burnley. Blackburn, Oldham, Rochdale - a lot of those old mill towns have a huge muay thai scene, lots of clubs and loads of decent fighters.

[583940]

Salford is another place there should be more boxing clubs in. Very working class city full of high crime areas, poverty, angry youths who like a fight. They just need something to do constructive with their time. To my knowledge theres only 2 boxing clubs there in a city of 300,000 people.

There's been Jamie Moore, Stephen Foster and a Stephen Foster Jr and a few others. Marc Leach currently. But you'd think there there should have been more. I really think this could be a good breeding ground for fighters.

Jamie Moore has just opened up one - Walkden ABC and I think it'll do well there.. It's near the notorious Little Hulton.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Salford is another place there should be more boxing clubs in. Very working class city full of high crime areas, poverty, angry youths who like a fight. They just need something to do constructive with their time. To my knowledge theres only 2 boxing clubs there in a city of 300,000 people.

There's been Jamie Moore, Stephen Foster and a Stephen Foster Jr and a few others. Marc Leach currently. But you'd think there there should have been more. I really think this could be a good breeding ground for fighters.

Jamie Moore has just opened up one - Walkden ABC and I think it'll do well there.. It's near the notorious Little Hulton.

There is Team Greaves ABC in Oldham, just off the M60.

I know there's kids all the way from Bolton who come there.

[high tower 1]

Where would be the worst areas for boxing ??? I’d say Surrey must be shite apart from gypsys.

[coneye]

Salford is another place there should be more boxing clubs in. Very working class city full of high crime areas, poverty, angry youths who like a fight. They just need something to do constructive with their time. To my knowledge theres only 2 boxing clubs there in a city of 300,000 people.

There's been Jamie Moore, Stephen Foster and a Stephen Foster Jr and a few others. Marc Leach currently. But you'd think there there should have been more. I really think this could be a good breeding ground for fighters.

Jamie Moore has just opened up one - Walkden ABC and I think it'll do well there.. It's near the notorious Little Hulton.

Little Hulton , mention of that place brought back some memories , used to do a lot of work on that estate in the early 80's , remember they had a great chippy there , he didled me out of my change , so i told him not gonna argue , keep it to fix the window , then went to the van , walked back with an hammer and gave the window a hard tap . , cut my nose off to spite my face really had to go elswhere for my hollans steak and kidney pie and chips

[Coco]

Where would be the worst areas for boxing ??? I’d say Surrey must be shite apart from gypsys.

Most of Home Counties are pretty poor other than for the travellers.
These days places around Croydon which is still a London borough and in the London divs has a Surrey postcode and are producing plenty.

[Counter-puncher]

If we're to go off the theory that deprived areas produce more boxers then in England you'd expect there is untapped potential talent in areas like Blackpool and Middlesbrough. Also Burnley, Blackburn, Bradford.

Is there much happening in these areas? Brian Rose from Blackpool still on the go.

Blackpool is a good shout, Sharpstyle ABC is a top notch amateur gym there that has produced a lot of national champions, have always been impressed with their lads when have seen them out. Re: Burnley. Blackburn, Oldham, Rochdale - a lot of those old mill towns have a huge muay thai scene, lots of clubs and loads of decent fighters.

That’s a really good point about that concentration of Muay Thai gyms, it’s been the case since at least the 90s probably 80s. That lad who was a bit of a pioneer, god can’t remember his name. Had an ‘interesting’ hair cut, he was from round that way I’m sure. Rochdale rings a bell. Still can’t remember his name though

[jimmystone]

If we're to go off the theory that deprived areas produce more boxers then in England you'd expect there is untapped potential talent in areas like Blackpool and Middlesbrough. Also Burnley, Blackburn, Bradford.

Is there much happening in these areas? Brian Rose from Blackpool still on the go.

Blackpool is a good shout, Sharpstyle ABC is a top notch amateur gym there that has produced a lot of national champions, have always been impressed with their lads when have seen them out. Re: Burnley. Blackburn, Oldham, Rochdale - a lot of those old mill towns have a huge muay thai scene, lots of clubs and loads of decent fighters.

That’s a really good point about that concentration of Muay Thai gyms, it’s been the case since at least the 90s probably 80s. That lad who was a bit of a pioneer, god can’t remember his name. Had an ‘interesting’ hair cut, he was from round that way I’m sure. Rochdale rings a bell. Still can’t remember his name though

Do you mean Sandy Holt (Bolton)?

[Counter-puncher]

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Thanks mate. He did have an interesting’ haircut, didn’t he?

[583940]

Salford is another place there should be more boxing clubs in. Very working class city full of high crime areas, poverty, angry youths who like a fight. They just need something to do constructive with their time. To my knowledge theres only 2 boxing clubs there in a city of 300,000 people.

There's been Jamie Moore, Stephen Foster and a Stephen Foster Jr and a few others. Marc Leach currently. But you'd think there there should have been more. I really think this could be a good breeding ground for fighters.

Jamie Moore has just opened up one - Walkden ABC and I think it'll do well there.. It's near the notorious Little Hulton.

Little Hulton , mention of that place brought back some memories , used to do a lot of work on that estate in the early 80's , remember they had a great chippy there , he didled me out of my change , so i told him not gonna argue , keep it to fix the window , then went to the van , walked back with an hammer and gave the window a hard tap . , cut my nose off to spite my face really had to go elswhere for my hollans steak and kidney pie and chips

Hahaha didn't think it'd be a story of you doing something to them. Good for you ha.

A lot of delivery drivers, taxi/bus drivers etc refuse to go there. It can be a very lively place, lot of stuff goes on there.

[Black Sam Bellamy]

The Thames Valley is quite an untapped area IMO.

The only shows you tend to see are in Bracknell Leisure Centre. I've never understood why there arent shows in Reading for example. Unless there's a local council licensing issue. There is plenty of interest in the sport in Reading, PROs and Amateur. A couple of venues which could take a decent indoor crowd [Rivermead, Reading FC].

[jimmystone]

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Thanks mate. He did have an interesting’ haircut, didn’t he?

Yes. Nice bloke. Hard as nails.

[high tower 1]

Where would be the worst areas for boxing ??? I’d say Surrey must be shite apart from gypsys.

Most of Home Counties are pretty poor other than for the travellers.
These days places around Croydon which is still a London borough and in the London divs has a Surrey postcode and are producing plenty.

Croydon’s a rough shit hole so I’d be surprised if it didn’t churn out good fighters.