Shields or Marshall

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Penderd94
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Shields or Marshall

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Predictions for Shields v Marshall? Power or skill?
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Re: Shields or Marshall

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I believe Marshall will win no matter where the fight takes place. I don’t know if it will be by decision or knockout.
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I just hope their microphone time is limited. That noise generated when the shit talking started at ringside....uuurgh my ears! :brick: 😖
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Re: Shields or Marshall

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Marshall can pump out that jab for 10x2 rounds easy. She has the height and reach to make Shields pay coming in. Shields is a better boxer I think, but she has not faced this kind of power, easy to get discouraged when your getting hurt coming in or letting your hands go.
Also look at Marshall's record, she stops experienced fighters who have never been stopped.
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/803108
11 with 9 KOs Vs 12 with 2 KOs.
Shields is going to get her chin checked for sure.
Now if this fight is free, I'll watch it.
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Let me know what happens then..
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pillow hands will probably edge a decision........or maybe they draw so they can try to hype a rematch

sav is a cumulative puncher, but i dont think she'll land enough to get claire out of there
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The fight is over. Shields is totally spooked by Marshall's confidence, not to mention her height and reach and power advantages. It was all on display last night as they confronted each other. Everybody knows Shields has dodged SM for years and went to MMA to keep ducking her. Now Shields makes no money and she is cornered and has to fight SM. But SM knows Shields, underneath all her screaming and yelling and BS, is afraid of SM, she wants mayweather easy fights not a big risk like Margarito or Paul Williams. And SM is her worst nightmare.

Last night SM mocked her to her face, calling her pillow fists and "I'll stop ya." Shields was hysterical screaming and barking up a storm, the scared dog barks the loudest.

This fight is already decided SM has won. Shields knows shes gonna lose and is shocked by how confident SM is. Shields is offended by this, she's a delusional spoiled black privileged entitled boring boxer. She can't believe some white cracker from England has her so intimidated. Shields thinks only she can intimidate everyone else But she failed to intimidate Savannah Marshall and when the intimidator fails to intimidate, then they themself become intimidated.

Savannah Marshall has won the mental fight, now the physical victory will be much easier.
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Marshall mocked shields right to her face last night, calling her boring, fans left in the fifth round, had to go ten rounds with an absolute child, I will stop ya. pillow fists. Shields replied I can't wait (to be stopped) and you couldn't clean my drawers whatever the hell that meant. Shields is not match mentally with Marshall and she will be no match physically. Easy fight for Marshall. If Shields doesn't find a way to mayweather her a55 out of the beating.
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Marshal can really whack, Think she will get the win (at least in my eyes)... might lose a decision if it goes the distance, depends how you judge. If you punch count sheilds could defiantly win, but if you track damage Marshal will likely win.
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600450 wrote: 06 Feb 2022, 21:44 Marshall mocked shields right to her face last night, calling her boring, fans left in the fifth round, had to go ten rounds with an absolute child, I will stop ya. pillow fists. Shields replied I can't wait (to be stopped) and you couldn't clean my drawers whatever the hell that meant. Shields is not match mentally with Marshall and she will be no match physically. Easy fight for Marshall. If Shields doesn't find a way to mayweather her a55 out of the beating.
Keep telling yourself that, Savannah.
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gregregegg wrote: 06 Feb 2022, 22:36 Marshal can really whack, Think she will get the win (at least in my eyes)... might lose a decision if it goes the distance, depends how you judge. If you punch count sheilds could defiantly win, but if you track damage Marshal will likely win.
marshall has been hyped as a serious power puncher, but its no 1 punch stuff, just cumulative power when she beats down much smaller and overmatched opponents (which tbf is still a rarity among women), i dont think she'll be able to do that vs shields. i do expect it to go the distance, with shields being faster and landing more, but she could be outworked and marshal''s shots may look better.

id edge shields but like i said i think they could draw it and then do a rematch. there's really very little else to hype in women's boxing for sky, they gotta find it somewhere
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margaret thatcher wrote: 06 Feb 2022, 22:42
gregregegg wrote: 06 Feb 2022, 22:36 Marshal can really whack, Think she will get the win (at least in my eyes)... might lose a decision if it goes the distance, depends how you judge. If you punch count sheilds could defiantly win, but if you track damage Marshal will likely win.
marshall has been hyped as a serious power puncher, but its no 1 punch stuff, just cumulative power when she beats down much smaller and overmatched opponents (which tbf is still a rarity among women), i dont think she'll be able to do that vs shields. i do expect it to go the distance, with shields landing more, but she could be outworked and marshal''s shots may look better.

id edge shields but like i said i think they could draw it and then do a rematch
Its not wilder power.... But she probably hits harder than any other active female boxer, But yea its only been proven at a very low levle.... But sheilds has proven that she lacks power even at a very low levle....

If the fight ends and sheilds has landed 100 punches and marshal has landed 50 i think marshal should be winner (but i think the judges will disagree), thats how big the difference is in how i think they whack, its not pre 2010 amature, so i just hope they arnt punch counting.
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i think if it goes to point shields will win , think marshall needs to put it on her
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I was unimpressed by Claressa’s performance last weekend against Ema Kozin.

But I realise the American was either too eager to please the UK audience or she didn’t take her opponent seriously.

So she might have simply experienced a “bad day at the office”.

Anyway, Savannah Marshall will have advantages over the American, such as size, power and competing in her own backyard.

But the Brit is relatively inexperienced and unproven in comparison to Claressa Shields (even though Marshall beat the American a decade ago in the amateurs).

My knowledge of women’s boxing is rather limited, probably because there are very few female competitors (i.e. lots of novices with losing records rated in the world’s top-thirty), coupled with there being very few bouts being covered by the media.

So my prediction of a competitive decision victory for Claressa Shields should be taken with a pinch of salt, because I suspect there are other people far more knowledgeable about female boxing than me.
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could see them becoming a couple
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Marshall will batter her.
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This is kind of off-topic, but kind of relevant also, because these stats provide context to the calibre of women’s boxing for the middleweight division, coupled with the resume stats of Claressa Shields and Savannah Marshall:

• According to BoxRec, there are only 28 world-rated female middleweights competing today.

• 18 of them have only won three or less bouts.

• Five of those ladies have never won a fight.

• And thirteen of those women have lost more fights than they’ve won.

• 20 of those fighters have competed in fewer than ten bouts.

• The average amount of victories gained by one of the top 28 world-rated female middleweights is only 4.5 wins.

• The lady that’s rated 28th by BoxRec has never won, lost or drawn a fight. She’s only engaged in one no-contest that went three rounds.

• Claressa Shields has engaged in 12 fights, nine of them were world title bouts. The combined total record of her opposition is: 166 wins; 16 losses; and six draws, resulting in an average W-L-D resume of 14-1-1.

• Savannah Marshall has engaged in 11 fights, three of them were world title bouts. The combined total record of her opposition is: 85 wins; 113 losses; and 13 draws, resulting in an average W-L-D resume of 8-10-1.

In my humble opinion, this leads me to conclude that women’s boxing for the middleweight division is very weak (almost disgracefully-bad) and Savannah Marshall’s resume is vastly inferior than Claressa Shields.

I’m not suggesting these stats can be used to reliably predict the winner of the Shields-Marshall bout, but they do help fill knowledge gaps and also provide context (if you’re like me, relatively unfamiliar with women’s boxing).

I guess one of the biggest questions about these stats are their accuracy:

• If BoxRec’s stats are deemed to be wildly inaccurate, then where can we obtain better information?

• If BoxRec’s stats are factually-accurate, then they obviously make a complete mockery of female boxing.
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I agree, I think you need to go primarily on the ‘eye test’ when it comes to women’s boxing, because it’s such an incredibly shallow talent pool.
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It's very clear shields has lost her mind regarding having to fight Marshall. Listen to her the other night, she's hysterical with panic and fear. She's screaming like a banshee at Marshall. She's desperate. Because Marshall knows shields ducked her and used absurd excuses to duck her. Now she is cornered and is forced to finally face Marshall because shields makes no money anywhere else. The panic and fear are very obvious now and it will only escalate as the fight nears. In the ring will be even worse for poor shields.
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600450 wrote: 07 Feb 2022, 10:53 It's very clear shields has lost her mind regarding having to fight Marshall. Listen to her the other night, she's hysterical with panic and fear. She's screaming like a banshee at Marshall. She's desperate. Because Marshall knows shields ducked her and used absurd excuses to duck her. Now she is cornered and is forced to finally face Marshall because shields makes no money anywhere else. The panic and fear are very obvious now and it will only escalate as the fight nears. In the ring will be even worse for poor shields.
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