Top 10 P4P since 2000: Non Champ

[Coco]

Alex Arthur

[stujones]

Alex Arthur

Officially a world champion.

[Coco]

Alex Arthur

Officially a world champion.

Interims count?

[stujones]

arguably, though a few other guys on his record who might have beaten cox

if he got the decision over cal it wouldnt have been unfair tbf

Agree on Ryder not having a solid win on a resume, but he argueably beat two Brits who were in the top 3 (arguably) p4p in 2021 - Smith AND Saunders.

He definitely wouldn't be high on the list if he makes the 10 though - but it could be argued he should be considered as good as Murray. He ran the #1 in the division (Smith) as close as Murray did when he fought the #1 in his division - and neither have chalked up a solid win. Whereas someone like Macklin did win at European Level (and some good European fighters) before moving up to world title.

Maybe a "sleeper" to be mentioned here for the lower portion of the top 10 - Adrian Stone - not a bad final three fighters to lose to - Vernon Forrest, Shane Mosley and Sergio Martinez. Again maybe more talent than accomplishment.

[Coco]

At this rate Paul Smith will make the list

[Coco]

Jason Booth

[Coco]

Jay Harris

[Coco]

Terry Dunstan

[Wee Tommy]

Kash Farooq
Dappa Napa
John Simpson

[Coco]

Brian Magee

[Coco]

Colin Lynes
Wayne Alexander

[Coco]

Jason Cook
Bernard Dunne
Michael Hunter
Rend all Munroe
Gavin Mcdonall

[Coco]

Damien Kelley

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Terry Dunstan

Great shout ! Pre prison Dunstan was a talent ..

[BigEars]

Jason Cook
Bernard Dunne
Michael Hunter
Rend all Munroe
Gavin Mcdonall

Dunne held the WBA (regular) belt while Caballero was "Super" Champion, so probably doesn't count.

Damien Kelly, as you mentioned in your next post is a great shout though.

[mickey1975]

Terry Dunstan

Great shout ! Pre prison Dunstan was a talent ..

Terry had a straightener in prison with an officer who really fancied himself. The bloke ended up having 3 months off work.

[dookus]

Brian Magee

Great call. If it weren't for the booze and fags..

[margaret thatcher]

having done a quick boxrec, magee was much more accomplished than id remembered, olympian too before going pro

seems a bit forgotten

[JamesPhilips]

David Starie

[stujones]

Brian Magee

As Alex Arthur - he was upgraded to "full" world title. His WBA title fight with Kessler was a defence for Brian - even though Kessler was the last person to hold that belt.

[stujones]

Brian Magee

Great call. If it weren't for the booze and fags..

Were both Magee's known for their Booze and Fags - Brain and Eamonn?

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[quote=Coco post_id=5700253 time=<a href="tel:1644270793">1644270793</a> user_id=12204]Terry Dunstan

Great shout ! Pre prison Dunstan was a talent ..
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Terry had a straightener in prison with an officer who really fancied himself. The bloke ended up having 3 months off work.
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Someone didn’t do their due diligence :))

[dookus]

Brian Magee

Great call. If it weren't for the booze and fags..

Were both Magee's known for their Booze and Fags - Brain and Eamonn?

sorry, confused the two!

I thought Brian Magee was WBA interim? But I guess for this thread we're ignoring those baubles

[stujones]

Great call. If it weren't for the booze and fags..

Were both Magee's known for their Booze and Fags - Brain and Eamonn?

sorry, confused the two!

I thought Brian Magee was WBA interim? But I guess for this thread we're ignoring those baubles

Magee was a full champion - awarded out of the ring and defended (and lost) vs Kessler - Kessler was the champion in recess but he was stripped when they fought.

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Kirkland Lang
Tony Sibson