Lest known world champions
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JamesPhilips
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Lest known world champions
Who are the least well known world champions ever? Obviously this is British forum so the lesser known Brit ones are not ‘unknown’ to a British mind. So not talking Paul Weir / Brian Magee etc. i mean globally.
For me: Morris East a black guy from Philippines
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/8201
And the guy he won the title off Akinobu Hiranaka, who beat Edwin Rosario
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/8196
Who are yours?
For me: Morris East a black guy from Philippines
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/8201
And the guy he won the title off Akinobu Hiranaka, who beat Edwin Rosario
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/8196
Who are yours?
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mickey1975
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Re: Lest known world champions
I don't know them.
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JamesPhilips
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Re: Lest known world champions
Fair play to them both might not be big names but they won legit world titles and will always have their names in the record books.
More high profile names have tried and failed, at least they took their big chance when they got it.
More high profile names have tried and failed, at least they took their big chance when they got it.
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They had “British World Champions since 2000” as a category on Pointless…,
I was all like, “does Paul Ingle (won belt in ‘99 lost in 2000) count?” and, “was Jason ‘The Method Man’ Mathews after 2000…”
Eventually I settled on, Nicky ‘Cookie’ Cook, Glen ‘CatMan’ Catley and Kal ‘everyone forgets about him’ Yafai.
When he gave the answers..,
EVERYONE apart from Lewis, Calzaghe and Hatton were Pointless!
I was all like, “does Paul Ingle (won belt in ‘99 lost in 2000) count?” and, “was Jason ‘The Method Man’ Mathews after 2000…”
Eventually I settled on, Nicky ‘Cookie’ Cook, Glen ‘CatMan’ Catley and Kal ‘everyone forgets about him’ Yafai.
When he gave the answers..,
EVERYONE apart from Lewis, Calzaghe and Hatton were Pointless!
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mickey1975
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Re: Lest known world champions
Ingle was quite well known, unless I'm wrong because he's from up here. I'd go Silky Jones.skanksta wrote: ↑10 Feb 2022, 17:19 They had “British World Champions since 2000” as a category on Pointless…,
I was all like, “does Paul Ingle (won belt in ‘99 lost in 2000) count?” and, “was Jason ‘The Method Man’ Mathews after 2000…”
Eventually I settled on, Nicky ‘Cookie’ Cook, Glen ‘CatMan’ Catley and Kal ‘everyone forgets about him’ Yafai.
When he gave the answers..,
EVERYONE apart from Lewis, Calzaghe and Hatton were Pointless!![]()
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handsofstone
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Re: Lest known world champions
Murray Sutherland from Edinburgh, first ever IBF champ at 168 I believe
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rubberneck
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Re: Lest known world champions
Surely Naseem Hamed wasn’t a pointless answer?skanksta wrote: ↑10 Feb 2022, 17:19 They had “British World Champions since 2000” as a category on Pointless…,
I was all like, “does Paul Ingle (won belt in ‘99 lost in 2000) count?” and, “was Jason ‘The Method Man’ Mathews after 2000…”
Eventually I settled on, Nicky ‘Cookie’ Cook, Glen ‘CatMan’ Catley and Kal ‘everyone forgets about him’ Yafai.
When he gave the answers..,
EVERYONE apart from Lewis, Calzaghe and Hatton were Pointless!![]()
Re: Lest known world champions
Morris East was well-known because of his features. From memory, his father is a black serviceman and his mother, Filipino. Moreover, his fight with Hiranaka was a gut-wrenching thriller with Morris on the verge of defeat several times before outlasting the big-hitting Japanese in one of the best fights of the 1990s. Hiranaka himself ranks as reasonably well-known because he had previously challenged Juan Martin Coggi for the world title, prior to his stunning first-round knockout of Rosario, who could win world titles but never hold on to them.JamesPhilips wrote: ↑10 Feb 2022, 15:30 Who are the least well known world champions ever? Obviously this is British forum so the lesser known Brit ones are not ‘unknown’ to a British mind. So not talking Paul Weir / Brian Magee etc. i mean globally.
For me: Morris East a black guy from Philippines
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/8201
And the guy he won the title off Akinobu Hiranaka, who beat Edwin Rosario
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/8196
Who are yours?
Re: Lest known world champions
Yeah he must’ve been and I think Froch* too - he was doing some reality TV dancing at the time.rubberneck wrote: ↑10 Feb 2022, 17:48Surely Naseem Hamed wasn’t a pointless answer?skanksta wrote: ↑10 Feb 2022, 17:19 They had “British World Champions since 2000” as a category on Pointless…,
I was all like, “does Paul Ingle (won belt in ‘99 lost in 2000) count?” and, “was Jason ‘The Method Man’ Mathews after 2000…”
Eventually I settled on, Nicky ‘Cookie’ Cook, Glen ‘CatMan’ Catley and Kal ‘everyone forgets about him’ Yafai.
When he gave the answers..,
EVERYONE apart from Lewis, Calzaghe and Hatton were Pointless!![]()
I’ve searched for the clip, but can’t find it.
The point stands though - the general public know F all and even the “household names” scored really low.
* Can anyone else with an iPhone type “shift F, roch- for Froch and see if it thinks you want to write…. agrochemical !?!? Wanna see if it’s just me ?
WTAF
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mickey1975
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Re: Lest known world champions
I don't think I've ever got a boxing question wrong on a quiz show. Not even Mastermind, I remember a guy who's specialist subject was the super middles, and he was crap. I think it might have been Cog looking back.
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Riddick Bowie
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Re: Lest known world champions
A guy on Mastermind once did 'heavyweight title fights since 2000' and I mopped the floor with him. He didn't even know who had boxed a trilogy with John Ruiz! Piece of piss.mickey1975 wrote: ↑11 Feb 2022, 06:54 I don't think I've ever got a boxing question wrong on a quiz show. Not even Mastermind, I remember a guy who's specialist subject was the super middles, and he was crap. I think it might have been Cog looking back.
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rubberneck
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Re: Lest known world champions
I remember on Pointless one of the categories in the final was Floyd Mayweather opponents!!! Every answer bar Hatton and Pac was pointless.skanksta wrote: ↑11 Feb 2022, 06:05Yeah he must’ve been and I think Froch* too - he was doing some reality TV dancing at the time.rubberneck wrote: ↑10 Feb 2022, 17:48Surely Naseem Hamed wasn’t a pointless answer?skanksta wrote: ↑10 Feb 2022, 17:19 They had “British World Champions since 2000” as a category on Pointless…,
I was all like, “does Paul Ingle (won belt in ‘99 lost in 2000) count?” and, “was Jason ‘The Method Man’ Mathews after 2000…”
Eventually I settled on, Nicky ‘Cookie’ Cook, Glen ‘CatMan’ Catley and Kal ‘everyone forgets about him’ Yafai.
When he gave the answers..,
EVERYONE apart from Lewis, Calzaghe and Hatton were Pointless!![]()
I’ve searched for the clip, but can’t find it.
The point stands though - the general public know F all and even the “household names” scored really low.
* Can anyone else with an iPhone type “shift F, roch- for Froch and see if it thinks you want to write…. agrochemical !?!? Wanna see if it’s just me ?
WTAF![]()
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There're so many of them, especially with the emerge of the abc era.
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Fray Bentos
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Re: Lest known world champions
mickey1975 wrote: ↑11 Feb 2022, 06:54 I don't think I've ever got a boxing question wrong on a quiz show. Not even Mastermind, I remember a guy who's specialist subject was the super middles, and he was crap. I think it might have been Cog looking back.
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Old bones Ian
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Re: Lest known world champions
I'd put Liam Smith in this category 2 time world champion , fought the p4p . No one outside of Liverpool or core boxing fans would know he held a title
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Old bones Ian
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Old bones Ian
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Prior to the Internet, I used to love reading the rankings in the Ring magazine and wondering what the story was behind the names, fighting styles ect. It's great now as anything can be YouTube'd in a second.