Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte | BT PPV - 23 April 2022

[Ruthless-RKO]

Fury has just said that Whyte would be his 6th best HW win.

How did he count Wilder? 1, 2 or 3 wins?

Nope.

"It'd probably be Deontay Wilder [as my biggest win], then Wladimir Klitschko, then Derek Chisora, then Otto Wallin, then Steve Cunningham, and then [Whyte]," Fury said to Queensberry TV.

[handsofstone]

Anyone else see the clip of Fury saying he's glad Eddie never won purse bid because he couldn't pay for Kambosos/Lopez?

Suffice to say Umar IFL Umar shat the bed and never pulled him on it

[maverick23]

Anyone else see the clip of Fury saying he's glad Eddie never won purse bid because he couldn't pay for Kambosos/Lopez?

Suffice to say Umar IFL Umar shat the bed and never pulled him on it

I saw Umar try and have it with Eddie the other day over Umar people a pussy with other promoters - I wish Umar showed that fire with everyone. He compliments them far too much and doesn’t push at all. I guarantee he’ll be super positive about Frank’s Avanesyan card and say how stacked it is etc.

[handsofstone]

Anyone else see the clip of Fury saying he's glad Eddie never won purse bid because he couldn't pay for Kambosos/Lopez?

Suffice to say Umar IFL Umar shat the bed and never pulled him on it

I saw Umar try and have it with Eddie the other day over Umar people a pussy with other promoters - I wish Umar showed that fire with everyone. He compliments them far too much and doesn’t push at all. I guarantee he’ll be super positive about Frank’s Avanesyan card and say how stacked it is etc.

Yeh it's not that I think Eddie gets a particularly hard time from IFL in general, I'm all for probing questions, it's just that they don't push Frank or Bob nearly as hard

[Boxerbeetle]

Anyone else see the clip of Fury saying he's glad Eddie never won purse bid because he couldn't pay for Kambosos/Lopez?

Suffice to say Umar IFL Umar shat the bed and never pulled him on it

I saw Umar try and have it with Eddie the other day over Umar people a pussy with other promoters - I wish Umar showed that fire with everyone. He compliments them far too much and doesn’t push at all. I guarantee he’ll be super positive about Frank’s Avanesyan card and say how stacked it is etc.

Yeh it's not that I think Eddie gets a particularly hard time from IFL in general, I'm all for probing questions, it's just that they don't push Frank or Bob nearly as hard

I think, to be fair to Eddie, he is generally more honest and open than Frank or Bob, so IFL know they can push a bit more.

[handsofstone]

I saw Umar try and have it with Eddie the other day over Umar people a pussy with other promoters - I wish Umar showed that fire with everyone. He compliments them far too much and doesn’t push at all. I guarantee he’ll be super positive about Frank’s Avanesyan card and say how stacked it is etc.

Yeh it's not that I think Eddie gets a particularly hard time from IFL in general, I'm all for probing questions, it's just that they don't push Frank or Bob nearly as hard

I think, to be fair to Eddie, he is generally more honest and open than Frank or Bob, so IFL know they can push a bit more.

Yeh that's true, still there's no excuse for being a pussy when it comes to burning questions, especially with all the skullduggery and accusations going on, if people are gonna lie or make claims then they need pressed

[JamesPhilips]

I saw Umar try and have it with Eddie the other day over Umar people a pussy with other promoters - I wish Umar showed that fire with everyone. He compliments them far too much and doesn’t push at all. I guarantee he’ll be super positive about Frank’s Avanesyan card and say how stacked it is etc.

Yeh it's not that I think Eddie gets a particularly hard time from IFL in general, I'm all for probing questions, it's just that they don't push Frank or Bob nearly as hard

I think, to be fair to Eddie, he is generally more honest and open than Frank or Bob, so IFL know they can push a bit more.

True but Eddie also loves to be In the spotlight...... he loves the attention..... Frank and Bob are more old school, predictably.

[TheGun13]

Fury and Frank are the types to throw their toys out of the pram if they get any kind of vaguely challenging questions, so the iFL lads are probably worried about getting cut off.

Also iFL are backed by Kinahan, so are probably instructed to lick Fury's arse at every opportunity.

[maverick23]

Fury and Frank are the types to throw their toys out of the pram if they get any kind of vaguely challenging questions, so the iFL lads are probably worried about getting cut off.

Also iFL are backed by Kinahan, so are probably instructed to lick Fury's arse at every opportunity.

Early days of IFL Frank got his lawyers on to them as Frank wasn’t happy with what Barry Hearn said about him. Barry was on good form in that interview from memory - he said something like ‘Frank says that he drove me out of boxing….the only driving he’d ever do of me is as my chauffeur’.

I listened to the most recent interview from Umar with Bob. No mention of the backlash to his comments re: the Taylor/Serrano fight.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Frank has said Whyte is holding things up..

He has til the 19th to sign or they will move on.

He said Fury is fighting on April 23rd..

[maverick23]

Frank has said Whyte is holding things up..

He has til the 19th to sign or they will move on.

He said Fury is fighting on April 23rd..

They issued Whyte a non standard purse bid contract (albeit one that was approved by the WBC). Whyte asked for standard one which he has now received.

Whyte is also wanting more money to assist in the promotion of the fight. I’m not surprised to be honest given the stuff Warren has said about him in the past (the singing after he lost to Povetkin about him not being mandatory anymore) and it will out more pressure on Tyson to promote the fight.

[Dioufy]

Rumours Whyte won’t engage in the promotion unless he gets more money.

[maverick23]

Rumours Whyte won’t engage in the promotion unless he gets more money.

I think it’s clever by Whyte.

Fury would hammer anyone if they did the gloves are off stuff or press conferences and I can also understand him not wanting to help the promotion because of the way Warren has spoken about him in the past.

[Dioufy]

Rumours Whyte won’t engage in the promotion unless he gets more money.

I think it’s clever by Whyte.

Fury would hammer anyone if they did the gloves are off stuff or press conferences and I can also understand him not wanting to help the promotion because of the way Warren has spoken about him in the past.

I don’t like it and to me it shows a weakness as he’s changing the way he’s conducting himself because of who is opponent us.
I can see this fight not happening. Contracts aren’t even signed and the deadline is approaching.
Whyte seems a stubborn guy so maybe he thinks he will get more than 6mil fighting Usyk in 9 months.

[jimmystone]

Rumours Whyte won’t engage in the promotion unless he gets more money.

I think it’s clever by Whyte.

Fury would hammer anyone if they did the gloves are off stuff or press conferences and I can also understand him not wanting to help the promotion because of the way Warren has spoken about him in the past.

I don’t like it and to me it shows a weakness as he’s changing the way he’s conducting himself because of who is opponent us.
I can see this fight not happening. Contracts aren’t even signed and the deadline is approaching.
Whyte seems a stubborn guy so maybe he thinks he will get more than 6mil fighting Usyk in 9 months.

I like it, for now. DIllian knows if he's going to sign and he knows what he is going to do and what he isn't. FW and TF don't. If you can train hard and avoid all the press conference obligations and associated travel, interview rounds, etc you are in a position of strength IMO. Who wants to stand around for hours answering the same bone questions from the same dull people? Not many once the novelty has warn off.

[handsofstone]

Can't stand Whyte personally but if his refusal to do any promotion will effect the WBC's income then I would give zero effort as well, he got royally fvcked over by them

[Dioufy]

Can't stand Whyte personally but if his refusal to do any promotion will effect the WBC's income then I would give zero effort as well, he got royally fvcked over by them

Don’t think it will affect them, or not majorly. They’re taking their commission regardless and the fight will sell; it will get hyped after the contracts are signed as there will be obligations on press conferences, interviews, ect. It’s not like Fury can’t promote a fight on his own, as well.
Only people who miss out are the genuine boxing fans as we like having an insight to how things are going.
Whyte is getting 6mil for this fight… After two brutal knockouts in a British ring he should be thankful.
Sets him up for life. Easily.

[Wee Tommy]

Whyte is a clown. He’s never winning a title with this shite attitude he has.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Rumours Whyte won’t engage in the promotion unless he gets more money.

I think it’s clever by Whyte.

Fury would hammer anyone if they did the gloves are off stuff or press conferences and I can also understand him not wanting to help the promotion because of the way Warren has spoken about him in the past.

I don’t like it and to me it shows a weakness as he’s changing the way he’s conducting himself because of who is opponent us.
I can see this fight not happening. Contracts aren’t even signed and the deadline is approaching.
Whyte seems a stubborn guy so maybe he thinks he will get more than 6mil fighting Usyk in 9 months.

Yh. If it was anyone else, he’d be all over it.

He won’t stay quiet at the presser when Fury digs into him.

[maverick23]

I think it’s clever by Whyte.

Fury would hammer anyone if they did the gloves are off stuff or press conferences and I can also understand him not wanting to help the promotion because of the way Warren has spoken about him in the past.

I don’t like it and to me it shows a weakness as he’s changing the way he’s conducting himself because of who is opponent us.
I can see this fight not happening. Contracts aren’t even signed and the deadline is approaching.
Whyte seems a stubborn guy so maybe he thinks he will get more than 6mil fighting Usyk in 9 months.

Yh. If it was anyone else, he’d be all over it.

He won’t stay quiet at the presser when Fury digs into him.

All of his other big fights would have had a % deal on the back end based on tickets/PPVs sold so I get why he talks more for them.

Fury will try all he can, like he’s doing at the moment, to get a rise out of Whyte. I wonder if Whyte will even go to the press conference? I’d be surprised if he can avoid it during fight week but not sure whether he’ll be obliged to do an initial press conference.

If Whyte does nothing to promote it then Tyson will have to work hard for it as his deal will almost certainly be based on PPV numbers etc.

[Ruthless-RKO]

I don’t like it and to me it shows a weakness as he’s changing the way he’s conducting himself because of who is opponent us.
I can see this fight not happening. Contracts aren’t even signed and the deadline is approaching.
Whyte seems a stubborn guy so maybe he thinks he will get more than 6mil fighting Usyk in 9 months.

Yh. If it was anyone else, he’d be all over it.

He won’t stay quiet at the presser when Fury digs into him.

All of his other big fights would have had a % deal on the back end based on tickets/PPVs sold so I get why he talks more for them.

Fury will try all he can, like he’s doing at the moment, to get a rise out of Whyte. I wonder if Whyte will even go to the press conference? I’d be surprised if he can avoid it during fight week but not sure whether he’ll be obliged to do an initial press conference.

If Whyte does nothing to promote it then Tyson will have to work hard for it as his deal will almost certainly be based on PPV numbers etc.

TBH, I think the fight does decent numbers, regardless off how much they try and sell it. Of course promoting it more would be better.

Fury did 400k UK buys at daft o clock alone against Wilder.

His fan base has grown huge since he fought Wlad in 2015 was it? That did around 500k UK buys.

Add in that Whyte can do around 200k-400k against semi decent non PPV fighters.
This will be prime time UK television and Fury’s first fight in the UK as world champion.

[maverick23]

Yh. If it was anyone else, he’d be all over it.

He won’t stay quiet at the presser when Fury digs into him.

All of his other big fights would have had a % deal on the back end based on tickets/PPVs sold so I get why he talks more for them.

Fury will try all he can, like he’s doing at the moment, to get a rise out of Whyte. I wonder if Whyte will even go to the press conference? I’d be surprised if he can avoid it during fight week but not sure whether he’ll be obliged to do an initial press conference.

If Whyte does nothing to promote it then Tyson will have to work hard for it as his deal will almost certainly be based on PPV numbers etc.

TBH, I think the fight does decent numbers, regardless off how much they try and sell it. Of course promoting it more would be better.

Fury did 400k UK buys at daft o clock alone against Wilder.

His fan base has grown huge since he fought Wlad in 2015 was it? That did around 500k UK buys.

Add in that Whyte can do around 200k-400k against semi decent non PPV fighters.
This will be prime time UK television and Fury’s first fight in the UK as world champion.

I’m sure it will do decent numbers over here but even a million buys and a decent gate doesn’t come close to paying the $41m or at least giving Fury his due share once the broadcasters take their cut etc.

Bob was talking 500k buys in the US on PPV. Fury is the biggest heavyweight name in the US but against Whyte who’s fairly unknown over there, outside of primetime and a week after another PPV I can’t see it doing 100k buys.

[Ruthless-RKO]

All of his other big fights would have had a % deal on the back end based on tickets/PPVs sold so I get why he talks more for them.

Fury will try all he can, like he’s doing at the moment, to get a rise out of Whyte. I wonder if Whyte will even go to the press conference? I’d be surprised if he can avoid it during fight week but not sure whether he’ll be obliged to do an initial press conference.

If Whyte does nothing to promote it then Tyson will have to work hard for it as his deal will almost certainly be based on PPV numbers etc.

TBH, I think the fight does decent numbers, regardless off how much they try and sell it. Of course promoting it more would be better.

Fury did 400k UK buys at daft o clock alone against Wilder.

His fan base has grown huge since he fought Wlad in 2015 was it? That did around 500k UK buys.

Add in that Whyte can do around 200k-400k against semi decent non PPV fighters.
This will be prime time UK television and Fury’s first fight in the UK as world champion.

I’m sure it will do decent numbers over here but even a million buys and a decent gate doesn’t come close to paying the $41m or at least giving Fury his due share once the broadcasters take their cut etc.

Bob was talking 500k buys in the US on PPV. Fury is the biggest heavyweight name in the US but against Whyte who’s fairly unknown over there, outside of primetime and a week after another PPV I can’t see it doing 100k buys.

And depends on price in the US.

[Twinkle Toes]

The US numbers are going to tank.

People forget how much value Wilder bought to the table for the US market. It wasn't all Fury, not even close.

[thenamesnevers]

I quite like the fact that Whyte isn't letting Fury, Arum and Warren have things all their own way.