BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Makhmudov vs. Wach

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1. Tyson Fury - 31(22) 0 1 - next fight: TBA

2. Oleksandr Usyk - 19(13) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

3. Anthony Joshua - 24(22) 2(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

4. Deontay Wilder - 42(41) 2(2) 1 - next fight: TBA

5. Dillian Whyte - 28(19) 2(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

6. Joseph Parker - 30(21) 2(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

7. Andy Ruiz Jr - 34(22) 2(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

8. Joe Joyce - 13(12) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

9. Luis Ortiz - 33(28) 2(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

10. Kubrat Pulev - 28(14) 2(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

11. Tony Yoka - 11(9) 0 0 - next fight: TBC vs. Martin Bakole - 17(13) 1(1) 0 - (unranked)

12. Otto Wallin - 22(14) 1(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

13. Robert Helenius - 31(20) 3(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

14. Frank Sanchez - 20(13) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

15. Dereck Chisora - 32(23) 12(3) 0 - next fight: TBA

Question: How are the rankings affected by Arslanbek Makhmudov's 14(14) 0(0) 0 (UNRANKED) win over Mariusz Wach 36(19) 8(4) 0 (UNRANKED)?

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Mak is on a bit of a run, but has he cracked the top 15 yet?

Are there others (Hughie Fury) who deserve to crack it before him?

No one's even scheduled to fight.

Dempsey McKean and Wardley are fighting (not each other) next weekend, we have the Scottish belt this weekend too.

[Perkin Warbeck]

Yes, he should enter at #15. He did much better against Wach than Whyte, who is overrated.

Anybody else notice only ONE of the top 50 heavyweights on BoxRec is currently scheduled? Would the division be more interesting if some of these guys fought more often?

[Ruthless-RKO]

Yes, he should enter at #15. He did much better against Wach than Whyte, who is overrated.

Anybody else notice only ONE of the top 50 heavyweights on BoxRec is currently scheduled? Would the division be more interesting if some of these guys fought more often?

McKean next week? I know.

The Yoka-Bakole was supposedly rescheduled but it’s not listed yet on BoxRec.

[DrDuke]

Chisora is 0-3 in the last two years. His last win is over now retired David Price.

Mak to 15.

[oogiebe]

Anyone who saw the fight also saw that Mak still has a lot of work to do in order to compete on top 15 level.

[oogiebe]

Mak is on a bit of a run, but has he cracked the top 15 yet?

Are there others (Hughie Fury) who deserve to crack it before him?

No one's even scheduled to fight.

Dempsey McKean and Wardley are fighting (not each other) next weekend, we have the Scottish belt this weekend too.

Why mention Mr. ManStrength? LOL!

[joshj909]

Mak is on a bit of a run, but has he cracked the top 15 yet?

Are there others (Hughie Fury) who deserve to crack it before him?

No one's even scheduled to fight.

Dempsey McKean and Wardley are fighting (not each other) next weekend, we have the Scottish belt this weekend too.

Hopefully that sets up Wardley Vs McKean for the commonwealth belt.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Mak is on a bit of a run, but has he cracked the top 15 yet?

Are there others (Hughie Fury) who deserve to crack it before him?

No one's even scheduled to fight.

Dempsey McKean and Wardley are fighting (not each other) next weekend, we have the Scottish belt this weekend too.

Hopefully that sets up Wardley Vs McKean for the commonwealth belt.

Could have just fought each other next week.

Boxing eh.

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Mak is on a bit of a run, but has he cracked the top 15 yet?

Are there others (Hughie Fury) who deserve to crack it before him?

No one's even scheduled to fight.

Dempsey McKean and Wardley are fighting (not each other) next weekend, we have the Scottish belt this weekend too.

Why mention Mr. ManStrength? LOL!

Haha’ a few on here believe he should be too 15 already.

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Anyone who saw the fight also saw that Mak still has a lot of work to do in order to compete on top 15 level.

Yeh and Chisora didn’t do TOO BADLY against Parker.

Does Mak beat Huggies you reckon? Or Chisora?

I know he would have to beat them to prove it.. but we don’t seem to get the fights.

[oogiebe]

Anyone who saw the fight also saw that Mak still has a lot of work to do in order to compete on top 15 level.

Yeh and Chisora didn’t do TOO BADLY against Parker.

Does Mak beat Huggies you reckon? Or Chisora?

I know he would have to beat them to prove it.. but we don’t seem to get the fights.

Mak vs Hughie would be a good bout to see if:
1 - Mak can beat a boxer with skills
2 - Hughie can beat a puncher with size.

[gregregegg]

Chisora is 0-3 in the last two years. His last win is over now retired David Price.

Mak to 15.

To be fair though Chisora was compeditive vs parker twice. and gave usyk his hardest fight ever? or mabey since briedis. (i dont think he gave usyk a super hard fight, but i cant think of anyone thats given him a significantly harder one).

Mak Stopped a 42 year old Wach. FORTY TWO.... and wach probably won 2 or 3 rounds, just didnt have what it takes to survive big mak when he started clubbing, which is fair, there isnt a 42 year old in the world that can survive a big mak clubbing.

I rate Mak and want him to get his chance to be top 15, but i think chisora has shown a lot more in his last 3 than mak has proven in his last 3.

[KiwiRider]

Chisora is 0-3 in the last two years. His last win is over now retired David Price.

Mak to 15.

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This.

[CMCanavessi]

Take Pulev out of that list, move everyone up one place and put Big Mak in 15.

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Take Pulev out of that list, move everyone up one place and put Big Mak in 15.

Idea..

W
I was gonna bring the whole Pulev thing up.

He is fighting the Triad thing again next weekend.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Chisora is 0-3 in the last two years. His last win is over now retired David Price.

Mak to 15.

To be fair though Chisora was compeditive vs parker twice. and gave usyk his hardest fight ever? or mabey since briedis. (i dont think he gave usyk a super hard fight, but i cant think of anyone thats given him a significantly harder one).

Naa.

He gave him a rough first few rounds.. then Usyk coasted. Only the Matchroom/Sky posse was saying it was close or even that Chisora won. Jokers.

After the first couple rounds, it was only going one way.

[gregregegg]

Chisora is 0-3 in the last two years. His last win is over now retired David Price.

Mak to 15.

To be fair though Chisora was compeditive vs parker twice. and gave usyk his hardest fight ever? or mabey since briedis. (i dont think he gave usyk a super hard fight, but i cant think of anyone thats given him a significantly harder one).

Naa.

He gave him a rough first few rounds.. then Usyk coasted. Only the Matchroom/Sky posse was saying it was close or even that Chisora won. Jokers.

After the first couple rounds, it was only going one way.

Usyk won clear and was in control, i dont debate that. But I still think it was on of usyks toughest fights so i have to give chis some credit.

Chis gave usyk a tougher night than AJ, Bellew, Gassiev, Huck, Hunter, glowaki and Thabiso Mchunu in the pros.. add in joyce and the rest in the semi pros/WSB... There some pretty good names.

[oogiebe]

To be fair though Chisora was compeditive vs parker twice. and gave usyk his hardest fight ever? or mabey since briedis. (i dont think he gave usyk a super hard fight, but i cant think of anyone thats given him a significantly harder one).

Naa.

He gave him a rough first few rounds.. then Usyk coasted. Only the Matchroom/Sky posse was saying it was close or even that Chisora won. Jokers.

After the first couple rounds, it was only going one way.

Usyk won clear and was in control, i dont debate that. But I still think it was on of usyks toughest fights so i have to give chis some credit.

Chis gave usyk a tougher night than AJ, Bellew, Gassiev, Huck, Hunter, glowaki and Thabiso Mchunu in the pros.. add in joyce and the rest in the semi pros/WSB... There some pretty good names.

Breidis was his toughest fight.

[gregregegg]

Naa.

He gave him a rough first few rounds.. then Usyk coasted. Only the Matchroom/Sky posse was saying it was close or even that Chisora won. Jokers.

After the first couple rounds, it was only going one way.

Usyk won clear and was in control, i dont debate that. But I still think it was on of usyks toughest fights so i have to give chis some credit.

Chis gave usyk a tougher night than AJ, Bellew, Gassiev, Huck, Hunter, glowaki and Thabiso Mchunu in the pros.. add in joyce and the rest in the semi pros/WSB... There some pretty good names.

Breidis was his toughest fight.

yea, ok. But id say chis was his 2nd toughest. my point is, id consider giving usyk his 2nd toughest fight as a pro is probably a better preformance than beating a 42 year old wach. Id also say going closeish over 2 fights with parker is also considerably better than beating a 42 year old wach.

Some people base there rankings on wins and losses. And thats fair, each to there own. I tend to base it on wins/losses/preformances and heavily heavily count the quality of opponent. because of that id still have chis above MAk But thats just me.

[oogiebe]

Usyk won clear and was in control, i dont debate that. But I still think it was on of usyks toughest fights so i have to give chis some credit.

Chis gave usyk a tougher night than AJ, Bellew, Gassiev, Huck, Hunter, glowaki and Thabiso Mchunu in the pros.. add in joyce and the rest in the semi pros/WSB... There some pretty good names.

Breidis was his toughest fight.

yea, ok. But id say chis was his 2nd toughest. my point is, id consider giving usyk his 2nd toughest fight as a pro is probably a better preformance than beating a 42 year old wach. Id also say going closeish over 2 fights with parker is also considerably better than beating a 42 year old wach.

Some people base there rankings on wins and losses. And thats fair, each to there own. I tend to base it on wins/losses/preformances and heavily heavily count the quality of opponent. because of that id still have chis above MAk But thats just me.

I have chis above mak at this time as well.

[margaret thatcher]

mak not quite top 15 yet for me, needs to beat someone fresher. the rice win might actually be better than the wach win, though putting wach down is a good accomplishment. clearly plenty of power but needs refinement

[KiwiRider]

I would not be too surprised if Del Boy retired. That was a heck of a war Parker put him through and he is coming up to 39.

[margaret thatcher]

mak and delly could fight to settle the question, boxrec forum special occassion belt on the line

[568640]

It's a nice list. Arslan, for now, hasn't done enough to be on it. I believe that Hrgo, Dubois and Arslan are very similar in style. And non of them done shit until this point.