Best white boxer of all time?

Tysonfan · Post by **Tysonfan** » 03 Aug 2006, 20:06

Harry Greb or Jack Dempsey? Not sure it close between those 2 for me. Any challengers.

Tysonfan · Post by **Tysonfan** » 03 Aug 2006, 20:12

well he's not american so i dont count him.

BoxBuzz · Post by **BoxBuzz** » 03 Aug 2006, 20:14

I pulled my "Galloway" statement......I went back and studied the record and decided perhaps Dempsey was a better fighter after all.

BrocktonBlockbuster49 · Post by **BrocktonBlockbuster49** » 03 Aug 2006, 20:25

the answer is willie pep. thank you for contributing to this thread

pundit · Post by **pundit** » 03 Aug 2006, 20:26

BrocktonBlockbuster49 wrote:the answer is willie pep. thank you for contributing to this thread

Harry Greb is a very legit choice, Benny Leonard another.

pundit · Post by **pundit** » 03 Aug 2006, 20:34

BoxBuzz wrote:I pulled my "Galloway" statement......I went back and studied the record and decided perhaps Dempsey was a better fighter after all.

Marginally...

Tysonfan · Post by **Tysonfan** » 03 Aug 2006, 21:28

It looks like i won. Dempsey is the best white fighter.

will there ever be another white fighter?

JAHamilton77 · Post by **JAHamilton77** » 03 Aug 2006, 21:57

pundit wrote:
BrocktonBlockbuster49 wrote:the answer is willie pep. thank you for contributing to this thread
Harry Greb is a very legit choice, Benny Leonard another.

I'd take Leonard he was a complete fighter.

pundit · Post by **pundit** » 03 Aug 2006, 22:00

Tysonfan wrote:Harry Greb or Jack Dempsey? Not sure it close between those 2 for me. Any challengers.

Greb was 30 pounds lighter but dominated Dempsey in sparring.

BrocktonBlockbuster49 · Post by **BrocktonBlockbuster49** » 03 Aug 2006, 22:01

i was kinda just kidding with the "the answer is willie pep" there is no definte answer.

no but seriousely i do think willie pep is the top choice here followed closely by greb and then leonard

BrocktonBlockbuster49 · Post by **BrocktonBlockbuster49** » 03 Aug 2006, 22:01

Decagon wrote:Harry Greb, by far.

by far? wut about willie pep?

Expug · Post by **Expug** » 03 Aug 2006, 22:15

Ill go with Greb as well. Top 5 P4P for beating all the hall of famers he did.
The best white fighter I have seen on film was Billy Conn. My opinion.

HomicideHenry · Post by **HomicideHenry** » 03 Aug 2006, 22:20

Willie Pep was JEWISH...he wasn't white. So he falls out of the "best white fighter" category.

My personal opinion, the best white fighter, in any weight class, was probably Jimmy Wylde, of England, who was one of the greatest KO artists of all time. When he was a young kid in his native Wales, he used to fight exhibitions with grown men twice his size and knocked them all out.

One time Wylde was under major testing, to see where he got his great power from, and to the surprise of the 'experts' it wasn't by brute strength, but was by Wylde's percision and timing, as well as the quickness and accuracy of his punches.

BrocktonBlockbuster49 · Post by **BrocktonBlockbuster49** » 03 Aug 2006, 22:24

pundit wrote:
Tysonfan wrote:Harry Greb or Jack Dempsey? Not sure it close between those 2 for me. Any challengers.
Greb was 30 pounds lighter but dominated Dempsey in sparring.

key word: SPARRING

dempsey would kill 160lb greb in a real fight

BrocktonBlockbuster49 · Post by **BrocktonBlockbuster49** » 03 Aug 2006, 22:24

The best white fighter I have seen on film was Billy Conn.

im guessing u never seen willie pep on film expug. conn was one of the best, but willie was the best!

Expug · Post by **Expug** » 03 Aug 2006, 22:30

Ive seen Willie.
I liked Conns style. Great combos ,decent puncher, helluva fighter.

pundit · Post by **pundit** » 03 Aug 2006, 22:35

IrishRufusMurphy wrote:Willie Pep was JEWISH...he wasn't white. So he falls out of the "best white fighter" category.

Ha?
And you are purple?

pundit · Post by **pundit** » 03 Aug 2006, 22:36

BrocktonBlockbuster49 wrote:
pundit wrote:
Tysonfan wrote:Harry Greb or Jack Dempsey? Not sure it close between those 2 for me. Any challengers.
Greb was 30 pounds lighter but dominated Dempsey in sparring.

key word: SPARRING

dempsey would kill 160lb greb in a real fight

would would.....oh would would.... would..... oh yeah would....

but never did......instead Kearns (Dempsey's manager) refused to make the fight......

Expug · Post by **Expug** » 03 Aug 2006, 22:39

pundit wrote:
IrishRufusMurphy wrote:Willie Pep was JEWISH...he wasn't white. So he falls out of the "best white fighter" category.
Ha?
And you are purple?

Guiglermo Papaleo dont sound Jewish to me.

HomicideHenry · Post by **HomicideHenry** » 03 Aug 2006, 23:05

Wales is in the British Empire is it not? Welsh/English same difference to me.

And my apologies lol...I wasn't thinking right, Pep was Italian, never mind, I was thinking of some other boxer who was Jewish lol

Best "white" fighters in my opinion are these top 5:

1.) Willie Pep
2.) Harry Greb
3.) Jimmy Wilde
4.) Gene Tunney
5.) Bob Fitzsimmons

pundit · Post by **pundit** » 03 Aug 2006, 23:17

IrishRufusMurphy wrote: And my apologies lol...I wasn't thinking right, Pep was Italian, never mind, I was thinking of some other boxer who was Jewish lol

So again, what is a jewish fighter (like Benny Leonard) if not white.

mrbassie · Post by **mrbassie** » 03 Aug 2006, 23:24

Decagon wrote:Pep's opposition wasn't in the same league as Greb's. What if Willie Pep had been black and Pernell Whitaker'd been white. How would history view the two of them?

not as roughly equal dancers at any rate.

BrocktonBlockbuster49 · Post by **BrocktonBlockbuster49** » 04 Aug 2006, 00:22

really no white fighter(or perhaps any fighter) looks better on film than a peak willie pep. he looked like he glided through air, the best footwork i have ever seen

BrocktonBlockbuster49 · Post by **BrocktonBlockbuster49** » 04 Aug 2006, 00:23

pundit,

funny how u never mention ur boy harry wills refusing to fight great tommy gibbons. the same gibbons who lost 12 out of 15 rounds vs dempsey. the same gibbons who tunney ducked and waited till gibbons was washed up badly in 1925!

of course i think wills would have beaten gibbons!

generic screen name · Post by **generic screen name** » 04 Aug 2006, 00:55

Benny Leonard is the greatest Jewish boxer. Represent!

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