Vinnie Pazienza vs Tony Ayala

[AngryGoon38]

12 Rounds, at 154.
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VP was 5'7-1/2, with a 70" reach.
TA seemed to be of relatively similar physical proportions.
I Really Don't see TA having a Decisively Natural Size advantage over VP.
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Paz would've made a heckuva fight for just about anyone, at 154,including in this hypo vs The highly touted Ayala.
I see Paz trading in spots, but also utilizing his shifty bursty footwork, and being able to Go Bullish Brawler Mauler in equal terms with Ayala. I think that in terms of counter-punching, Paz would have the slight edge. Ayala would have the slight edge in landing the bigger blows. Paz would also have the edge in working the jab,simultaneously with his in and out defensive maneuvers. Especially the swift and shifty footwork and elusiveness, which he still maintained quite well at 154.
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I would not feel 100% certain that VP would pull off everything I'd envision vs TA, but it just seems likely that he would likely utilize his abilities enough to come out of this bout with The Victory. Likely by a 6-4-2 type of decision. If one was knocked down during this bout, it'd likely be Paz, but I see him getting up and not being discouraged or intimidated. Paz would be one of those very few that wouldn't be in profound fear of Ayala. Respectfull yes, Fearful, barely at all, or maybe zero fear.
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Paz was Really Full of the Fire Within, and had he just stayed at 154, he certainly would've accomplished significantly more, and I have no doubt of this,and against a Tony Ayala,they're coinciding styles would've made for an epic battle.
I think that after 10,it'd be dead-even,and then Paz would've won the last two rounds,all fired up and riled up,thriving on second and third winds,deriving a high spirited energy from the roaring crowd chanting "Paz"," Paz","Paz".

[tiny_acres]

Can I ask why all the Paz love lately?

[AngryGoon38]

Can I ask why all the Paz love lately?

He was Actually one of my late Dad's favorites.
It was kind of strange when we watched the 2 Duran vs Paz bouts.
I was rooting for Duran, while my Dad was rooting for Paz.
I always liked Paz, but Never nearly as much as I Liked Duran.
I guess that these days, now in my 50's, I realize how much potential that VP had, if he had remained at 154, which was the weight division he was in upon his Miraculous Recovery/Comeback.

Obviously, he jumped Way Up to 168 because the promoters successfully tempted him with a Mega Cash offer that he just simply Could Not Refuse. It Really is a Shame though, cause, if VP had just taken a more methodically patient approach, pertaining to the financial aspects of his boxing carear,then he certainly would've made a similar amount of total earnings, just over a slightly longer timeframe obviously, but he was just So delusionally misled by the perspective of being able to handle the Great RJJ, who was also just So Much Naturally Bigger than VP.

[goose 5]

This one is really terrific- are you related to Teddy Brenner ? Paz by decision.

[AngryGoon38]

This one is really terrific- are you related to Teddy Brenner ? Paz by decision.

I'm actually related to the late great famous environmentalist "John Muir".
That's my late Dad's, Mom's side.

[Nile4000]

Paz was a nice fighter at one point. But against Ayala, I think he gets stopped in the 9th round.

[giacomino]

I think people forget how good Ayala was. He was more than a big puncher. In his prime he was a great all around fighter who could walk down and destroy opponents and could outbox them, and he had a great chin. Prime v Prime I think this is a great fight but Ayala stops Vinnie around the 11th