Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Gennadiy 'GGG' Golovkin III | DAZN PPV - September 17, 2022

[RScarf1]

Punching power can stay with a boxer even in his 40s. Look at George Foreman. I think age will be a factor for Golovkin against Canelo, but I think the fight will either go the distance or Golovkin will win by knockout. I don’t envision Canelo winning by knockout.

[margaret thatcher]

ggg landed plenty of punches in the 2 fights and best he did was slightly rattle canelo with a right hand in i think round 10 of the rematch. he barely phased canelo for the most part, cant see a ko for him. canelo has been taking shots from swms and lhws without being budged too, dude is a tank fueled by the best mexican beef

[bigjack]

Punching power can stay with a boxer even in his 40s. Look at George Foreman. I think age will be a factor for Golovkin against Canelo, but I think the fight will either go the distance or Golovkin will win by knockout. I don’t envision Canelo winning by knockout.

highly unlikely I'd say

[Enlightened-One]

Canelo stops Golovkin between rounds six to nine.

Despite him repeatedly making the same boasts about being capable of beating the world’s best fighters between 154lbs to 175lbs, GGG is incapable of being effective at 168lbs.

If I was wrong and this wasn’t the case, then he would have made the jump to 168lbs by now, because there’s bigger fish to fry in the heavier weight division for quite some time, but he hasn’t.

And of course (assuming the bout happens in September), being a very inactive forty-year-old won’t help GGG’s cause either.

By the time he steps foot inside the ring in September, during the previous five years (in my mind), he would have suffered legitimate defeats to Canelo and Derevyanchenko, whilst also engaging in mismatches against the likes of Martirosyan, Rolls and Szeremeta.

I don’t know how any fighter could reasonably consider themselves to be ideally equipped to pose a serious threat to Canelo in Golovkin’s situation.

People might bitch and moan about ancient history and scorecards from several years ago, but nothing they say has any bearing whatsoever on the outcome of September’s bout between Canelo and GGG.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Despite him repeatedly making the same boasts about being capable of beating the world’s best fighters between 154lbs to 175lbs, GGG is incapable of being effective at 168lbs.

Has he said that recently? Is he still saying that?

He hasn't had a fight at 168 yet has he?

[Enlightened-One]

Despite him repeatedly making the same boasts about being capable of beating the world’s best fighters between 154lbs to 175lbs, GGG is incapable of being effective at 168lbs.

Has he said that recently? Is he still saying that?

GGG hasn't been saying very much within the last 3½ years, because he’s been very inactive.

He definitely claimed he was capable of fighting in heavier weight divisions once or twice since the Kell Brook fight (I'm sure it was when he announced his deal with DAZN and also during the pre-fight Steve Rolls media discussions).

Either way, he repeatedly made the same boasts for at least six years. He laboured over this point during the Kell Brook press conferences.

To be fair, Abel Sanchez and Tom Loeffler repeated those boasts more than GGG did, but this may be because they're better at speaking in English than he is.

He hasn't had a fight at 168 yet has he?

The Golovkin-Rolls fight was fought at a catchweight of 163lbs.

All his other fights appear to have been staged one pounds (plus or minus) around the 160lbs weight limit.

[Enlightened-One]

Four rather intriguing facts:

• By the time he enters the ring against Canelo in September, Gennadiy Golovkin will only be a few weeks short of his seven-year anniversary since his most recent stoppage victory over a universally regarded top-ten world-rated middleweight opponent.

• He has won eleven fights that were contested for a legitimate world title, with only five of his opponents in those bouts considered top-ten world-rated fighters.

• David Lemieux is the only universally recognised top-five world-rated middleweight opponent that GGG has ever stopped throughout his entire career (as per The RING, TBRB & ESPN).

• GGG has only ever stopped six top-ten world-rated opponents throughout his entire career (as per The RING, TBRB & ESPN).

[Bandog]

I hope GGG doesn't fight Canelo again. He'll never get a fair shake on the scorecards, and arguably beat Canelo twice already. Being 40 yrs old is not the time to change it. Canelo will always have one judge in his pocket. That's been proven many times.

[Ruthless-RKO]

[Bandog]

Not a big Canelo fan, but props to him for facing Bivol. A guy in his prime, with very good skills.

[gregregegg]

Not a big Canelo fan, but props to him for facing Bivol. A guy in his prime, with very good skills.

Think we have craig richards to thank for this fight. Even though canelo and craig are opisites no doubt bivols very average showing in that fight made this easier to make.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Not a big Canelo fan, but props to him for facing Bivol. A guy in his prime, with very good skills.

Think we have craig richards to thank for this fight. Even though canelo and craig are opisites no doubt bivols very average showing in that fight made this easier to make.

Bivol fights like that all the time.

Plus some boxers who seek big pay days need to look weak at times.

[caldo2025]

Forget about ages. GGG has clearly proven to be a different animal when it comes to typical fighters…

Of course, when you’re a GGG fan, you believe he’s omnipotent, can walk on water and is also immortal.

Whereas for every other boxer that’s ever existed during the entire history of boxing has been affected by age at some point during their careers.

When Canelo batters GGG into submission, or compels the corner or the ref to stop the fight, the first excuse every die-hard Golovkin fan will cite will be his age!

But until that eventually happens, all GGG die-hard’s will dishonestly pretend that age is simply a number that doesn’t apply to Golovkin.

Honestly, to the point that you direct these attacks on the “unreasonable” admirers of the great GGG, the same could easily be said conversely about your disrespectful distaste for GGG and everything he’s been able to accomplish inside the ring.

It boggles an avid boxing fan how anyone could go as far as you love to go to diminish a boxer like GGG who has done it with class and entertained every single time he’s laced them up. Real fans love GGG because he’s everything we wished every boxer brought inside and outside of the ring.

POWER is the last boxing attribute lost in a career. He’s not a fighter that’s relied upon his legs or footwork. He’s always been a stationary fighter with the greatest jab in MW history. He’s got arguably the greatest power in MW history. So this is why I don’t consider GGG’s age as detrimental as past boxers at the age. Lastly, GGG HAS EARNED THE RIGHT TO ACCEPT A THIRD FIGHT IF HE WANTS IT. No matter if he gets knocked out or what. He beat Canelo twice on many of Boxing’s brightest corespondent’s scorecards. Anyone that would rather watch Canelo fight some unknown LH Champ vs. the trilogy just doesn’t get it.

[Enlightened-One]

Forget about ages. GGG has clearly proven to be a different animal when it comes to typical fighters…

Of course, when you’re a GGG fan, you believe he’s omnipotent, can walk on water and is also immortal.

Whereas for every other boxer that’s ever existed during the entire history of boxing has been affected by age at some point during their careers.

When Canelo batters GGG into submission, or compels the corner or the ref to stop the fight, the first excuse every die-hard Golovkin fan will cite will be his age!

But until that eventually happens, all GGG die-hard’s will dishonestly pretend that age is simply a number that doesn’t apply to Golovkin.

Honestly, to the point that you direct these attacks on the “unreasonable” admirers of the great GGG, the same could easily be said conversely about your disrespectful distaste for GGG and everything he’s been able to accomplish inside the ring.

It boggles an avid boxing fan how anyone could go as far as you love to go to diminish a boxer like GGG who has done it with class and entertained every single time he’s laced them up. Real fans love GGG because he’s everything we wished every boxer brought inside and outside of the ring.

POWER is the last boxing attribute lost in a career. He’s not a fighter that’s relied upon his legs or footwork. He’s always been a stationary fighter with the greatest jab in MW history. He’s got arguably the greatest power in MW history. So this is why I don’t consider GGG’s age as detrimental as past boxers at the age. Lastly, GGG HAS EARNED THE RIGHT TO ACCEPT A THIRD FIGHT IF HE WANTS IT. No matter if he gets knocked out or what. He beat Canelo twice on many of Boxing’s brightest corespondent’s scorecards. Anyone that would rather watch Canelo fight some unknown LH Champ vs. the trilogy just doesn’t get it.

I’m not the one pretending that inactivity and age won’t adversely affect GGG.

I tell you what, let’s discuss my previous sentence and you can attempt to persuade me into believing those factors don’t affect all fighters?

[RScarf1]

There have been world champs in boxing who were in their 40s such as George Foreman and Bernard Hopkins. In other sports, athletes in their 40s have maintained a high level such as Tom Brady in football and Dara Torres in swimming. Golovkin is 39 now, but he will be 40 if and when he fights Canelo later this year. Golovkin won’t be a senior citizen. He can still be a world-class athlete and boxer at 40. I don’t believe age will be much of a factor. Being 40 is a lot different than being 45 or 50.

[caldo2025]

Of course, when you’re a GGG fan, you believe he’s omnipotent, can walk on water and is also immortal.

Whereas for every other boxer that’s ever existed during the entire history of boxing has been affected by age at some point during their careers.

When Canelo batters GGG into submission, or compels the corner or the ref to stop the fight, the first excuse every die-hard Golovkin fan will cite will be his age!

But until that eventually happens, all GGG die-hard’s will dishonestly pretend that age is simply a number that doesn’t apply to Golovkin.

Honestly, to the point that you direct these attacks on the “unreasonable” admirers of the great GGG, the same could easily be said conversely about your disrespectful distaste for GGG and everything he’s been able to accomplish inside the ring.

It boggles an avid boxing fan how anyone could go as far as you love to go to diminish a boxer like GGG who has done it with class and entertained every single time he’s laced them up. Real fans love GGG because he’s everything we wished every boxer brought inside and outside of the ring.

POWER is the last boxing attribute lost in a career. He’s not a fighter that’s relied upon his legs or footwork. He’s always been a stationary fighter with the greatest jab in MW history. He’s got arguably the greatest power in MW history. So this is why I don’t consider GGG’s age as detrimental as past boxers at the age. Lastly, GGG HAS EARNED THE RIGHT TO ACCEPT A THIRD FIGHT IF HE WANTS IT. No matter if he gets knocked out or what. He beat Canelo twice on many of Boxing’s brightest corespondent’s scorecards. Anyone that would rather watch Canelo fight some unknown LH Champ vs. the trilogy just doesn’t get it.

I’m not the one pretending that inactivity and age won’t adversely affect GGG.

I tell you what, let’s discuss my previous sentence and you can attempt to persuade me into believing those factors don’t affect all fighters?

I already did so read my last paragraph above. However, I’d also like to also point out the fact that GGG was never, at any point, a slave to the weight scale. He never had to suck down and starve himself to make the weight. He’s fought his whole career at his comfortable weight and as most fighters will admit, there’s always 2 fights with every fight. Making weight is one and the other is the opponent. In fact, a huge factor in most retiring boxers is no longer wanting to suck down and starve themselves.

I think that GGG is much fresher than most fighters around his age bc he never put his body through that strain. If you don’t think that has an effect on longevity then you don’t know much about this at all and probably not worth going round and round over it.

[Enlightened-One]

Honestly, to the point that you direct these attacks on the “unreasonable” admirers of the great GGG, the same could easily be said conversely about your disrespectful distaste for GGG and everything he’s been able to accomplish inside the ring.

It boggles an avid boxing fan how anyone could go as far as you love to go to diminish a boxer like GGG who has done it with class and entertained every single time he’s laced them up. Real fans love GGG because he’s everything we wished every boxer brought inside and outside of the ring.

POWER is the last boxing attribute lost in a career. He’s not a fighter that’s relied upon his legs or footwork. He’s always been a stationary fighter with the greatest jab in MW history. He’s got arguably the greatest power in MW history. So this is why I don’t consider GGG’s age as detrimental as past boxers at the age. Lastly, GGG HAS EARNED THE RIGHT TO ACCEPT A THIRD FIGHT IF HE WANTS IT. No matter if he gets knocked out or what. He beat Canelo twice on many of Boxing’s brightest corespondent’s scorecards. Anyone that would rather watch Canelo fight some unknown LH Champ vs. the trilogy just doesn’t get it.

I’m not the one pretending that inactivity and age won’t adversely affect GGG.

I tell you what, let’s discuss my previous sentence and you can attempt to persuade me into believing those factors don’t affect all fighters?

I already did so read my last paragraph above. However, I’d also like to also point out the fact that GGG was never, at any point, a slave to the weight scale. He never had to suck down and starve himself to make the weight. He’s fought his whole career at his comfortable weight and as most fighters will admit, there’s always 2 fights with every fight. Making weight is one and the other is the opponent. In fact, a huge factor in most retiring boxers is no longer wanting to suck down and starve themselves.

I think that GGG is much fresher than most fighters around his age bc he never put his body through that strain. If you don’t think that has an effect on longevity then you don’t know much about this at all and probably not worth going round and round over it.

So it’s reasonable for me to assume if GGG suffers a one-sided loss to Canelo (decision or stoppage), you won’t attempt to undermine the Mexican’s feat by blaming the Kazakh’s age?

[RScarf1]

“Mexican meat” and biased judges affect the outcome much more than Golovkin’s age.

[apollo creed]

It's all depending on how good will G look vs Murata.

[margaret thatcher]

is ggg still fighting murata first?

dang, i really want ggg-mung so bad........better now than after a canelo beating and another year older

[Ruthless-RKO]

is ggg still fighting murata first?

dang, i really want ggg-mung so bad........better now than after a canelo beating and another year older

Yes. Probably be April/May.

[caldo2025]

I’m not the one pretending that inactivity and age won’t adversely affect GGG.

I tell you what, let’s discuss my previous sentence and you can attempt to persuade me into believing those factors don’t affect all fighters?

I already did so read my last paragraph above. However, I’d also like to also point out the fact that GGG was never, at any point, a slave to the weight scale. He never had to suck down and starve himself to make the weight. He’s fought his whole career at his comfortable weight and as most fighters will admit, there’s always 2 fights with every fight. Making weight is one and the other is the opponent. In fact, a huge factor in most retiring boxers is no longer wanting to suck down and starve themselves.

I think that GGG is much fresher than most fighters around his age bc he never put his body through that strain. If you don’t think that has an effect on longevity then you don’t know much about this at all and probably not worth going round and round over it.

So it’s reasonable for me to assume if GGG suffers a one-sided loss to Canelo (decision or stoppage), you won’t attempt to undermine the Mexican’s feat by blaming the Kazakh’s age?

Honestly, If Canelo goes on to knockout Bivol or batter him badly then my money will be placed on a Canelo KO of GGG. But anything less than that, my money is going the other way. Canelo has way more alternative interests lately. It’s understandable when a fighter makes THIS kind of money. I can imagine it being very difficult keeping that same edge and fire burning.

But, if GGG takes on the fight and regardless of the Bivol outcome, no one should make any excuses if GGG is beat up or outclassed by Canelo. But GGG deserves one last chance to put his foot up this guy’s ass. With now knowing full well that a decision victory over Canelo is like seeing Bigfoot or Nessie, GGG is gonna push for a KO and this just means an epic battle thst we should all be lucky to be alive to see.

Long answer, made short. No, no complaints from me unless another garbage scorecard. Aside from that, no. Age, not a defense from me.

[gregregegg]

I think its very very likely canelo stops GGG. due to GGGS age, activity and winners mentality (wont do what callum smith did and shell up for 12 rounds, he will take risks to try win..)

Cant think of anyone in history (my boxing history is trash though) that at 40 could be fairly inactive then step up a weight to fight p4p number 1 and be confident to go the distance.

I heard someone sugest GGGs age wont matter as much because he dosent have miles on the clock... which is bullshit. he hasnt been sparked out, but he has been taking punches sparring and fighting for decades... 350 amature fights, 40 pro fights. Sparring how many rounds? 10,000? more? who fornicating knows... Add in that he says he was getting in street fights with adults when he was in kindergarten... this guy probably has some miles... on his brain, on his joints, everywhere..

[Enlightened-One]

Honestly, to the point that you direct these attacks on the “unreasonable” admirers of the great GGG, the same could easily be said conversely about your disrespectful distaste for GGG and everything he’s been able to accomplish inside the ring.

Three simple questions:

Do you genuinely believe I’m being disrespectful suggesting that inactivity and age will adversely affect GGG?

And which comments have I made about GGG in this thread that you consider to be an “attack that is in poor taste?

If Canelo batters GGG into submission, or compels the corner or the ref to stop the fight, then do you seriously believe that the vast majority of die-hard Golovkin fans won’t blame the loss due to Gennadiy’s age?

[margaret thatcher]

of course age and inactivity will impact him, ressult will be far more conclusive than either of their previous fights