Golovkin accuses Canelo of fixing both fights

[Enlightened-One]

true, he was lucky to be around at the same time canelo was already a huge star.........dude is gonna possibly have made close to 200m because of cinnamon

Agreed.

The absurd amount of cash that GGG has earned throughout his career due to Canelo is the elephant in the room that no one is willing to talk about.

Instead, people feel that the sport for boxing has been “disgusting” to GGG, and consider him as being a “victim”.

[bjornborgbook]

true, he was lucky to be around at the same time canelo was already a huge star.........dude is gonna possibly have made close to 200m because of cinnamon

Agreed.

The absurd amount of cash that GGG has earned throughout his career due to Canelo is the elephant in the room that no one is willing to talk about.

Instead, people feel that the sport for boxing has been “disgusting” to GGG, and consider him as being a “victim”.

GGG absolutely slaugherred Canelo in sparring in LA and because of that was ducked for two years by Canelo. So we never got to see GGG slaughter Canelo in an official fight. Astute ring observers knows GGG was not allowed to slaughter Canelo because Canelo means too much bank to too many people for over a decade of fortunes. So GGG had to play soft and make the pretender look like the fake king of this era. GGG was also cheated out of slaughtering Cotto, Martinez, Floyd at 154, Jacobs and Quillin two years earlier and also that lying fraud Ward.

[Enlightened-One]

true, he was lucky to be around at the same time canelo was already a huge star.........dude is gonna possibly have made close to 200m because of cinnamon

Agreed.

The absurd amount of cash that GGG has earned throughout his career due to Canelo is the elephant in the room that no one is willing to talk about.

Instead, people feel that the sport for boxing has been “disgusting” to GGG, and consider him as being a “victim”.

GGG absolutely slaugherred Canelo in sparring in LA and because of that was ducked for two years by Canelo. So we never got to see GGG slaughter Canelo in an official fight. Astute ring observers knows GGG was not allowed to slaughter Canelo because Canelo means too much bank to too many people for over a decade of fortunes. So GGG had to play soft and make the pretender look like the fake king of this era. GGG was also cheated out of slaughtering Cotto, Martinez, Floyd at 154, Jacobs and Quillin two years earlier and also that lying fraud Ward.

139 posts in 30 days. What was your original forum moniker?

Your comments in this post are absurd!

[bjornborgbook]

GGG being cheated out of knocking out Floyd, Cotto, Martinez, Canelo was the same as if Ali had been cheated out of beating Frazier, Foreman.

Leonard being cheated out of beating Duran, Hearns, Benitez and Hagler.

Pacquiao being cheated out of beating Cotto, Hatton, Margarito, Oscar.

So GGG and boxing history was cheated out of seeing one of the best champions of all time get his best wins vs the best opponents. Because Cotto, FLoyd at 154, Martinez, Ward and Canelo all turned into cowards when it came time to fight Golovkin.

[Counter-puncher]

GGG being cheated out of knocking out Canelo was the same as if Ali had been cheated out of beating Frazier, Foreman.

bro (even) if you're right, didn't he basically cheat himself?

I mean, you're saying he agreed to go easy on Canelo, right? play it soft, Canelo gets to go two fights without getting a KO and GGG gets paid? that's your 'theory', right?

he took the deal, he agreed to go soft on Canelo. Dude cheated himself.

then he didn't even get the third fight that you're saying he was playing for. This guy's got some amazing intelligence according to you, one of the smartest guys in the boxing game, yet somehow he manages to put himself in a position where he throws not one, but two fights- and never even gets the promised payoff on throwing them?

man, he's made a sucker of himself there, right? i mean, damn, if he'd have tried he woulda knocked Canelo out FOR SURE bro GUARANTEED BABY.... damn, he coulda knocked Canelo out, but instead he deliberately didn't

we used to call that 'self-ownage', in earlier internet days.

[Counter-puncher]

that's me done with halfway-pretending to take you seriously, by the way, it'll be back to the insults next time around.

[bjornborgbook]

GGG being cheated out of knocking out Canelo was the same as if Ali had been cheated out of beating Frazier, Foreman.

bro (even) if you're right, didn't he basically cheat himself?

I mean, you're saying he agreed to go easy on Canelo, right? play it soft, Canelo gets to go two fights without getting a KO and GGG gets paid? that's your 'theory', right?

he took the deal, he agreed to go soft on Canelo. Dude cheated himself.

then he didn't even get the third fight that you're saying he was playing for. This guy's got some amazing intelligence according to you, one of the smartest guys in the boxing game, yet somehow he manages to put himself in a position where he throws not one, but two fights- and never even gets the promised payoff on throwing them?

man, he's made a sucker of himself there, right? i mean, damn, if he'd have tried he woulda knocked Canelo out FOR SURE bro GUARANTEED BABY.... damn, he coulda knocked Canelo out, but instead he deliberately didn't

we used to call that 'self-ownage', in earlier internet days.

The promised third fight is now on for Sept.
My theory is GGG was forced to play soft and lose to Canelo like Hagler was forced to do by Leonard for the jackpot. And Floyd did to just about all of his hired patsies.

[Thomastearns]

GGG being cheated out of knocking out Canelo was the same as if Ali had been cheated out of beating Frazier, Foreman.

bro (even) if you're right, didn't he basically cheat himself?

I mean, you're saying he agreed to go easy on Canelo, right? play it soft, Canelo gets to go two fights without getting a KO and GGG gets paid? that's your 'theory', right?

he took the deal, he agreed to go soft on Canelo. Dude cheated himself.

then he didn't even get the third fight that you're saying he was playing for. This guy's got some amazing intelligence according to you, one of the smartest guys in the boxing game, yet somehow he manages to put himself in a position where he throws not one, but two fights- and never even gets the promised payoff on throwing them?

man, he's made a sucker of himself there, right? i mean, damn, if he'd have tried he woulda knocked Canelo out FOR SURE bro GUARANTEED BABY.... damn, he coulda knocked Canelo out, but instead he deliberately didn't

we used to call that 'self-ownage', in earlier internet days.

The promised third fight is now on for Sept.
My theory is GGG was forced to play soft and lose to Canelo like Hagler was forced to do by Leonard for the jackpot. And Floyd did to just about all of his hired patsies.

Maybe forced is going a little far, but who knows?

That's certainly my impression that in a lot of these 'fights' that the carefully selected opponent (hired patsy) that poses little threat and is desperate for the money etc is only there to feign hostility, show up, lose, doff their csps and leave to count the tax deductibles.

Quite often we'll even see the challenger thanking the title holder for giving them the chance to challenge.

Every now and then we'll see a 'live one'.

How exactly is all this supposed to be a sport?

Canelo didn't just fix both GGG fights, he fixes all of his fights. And he's not the only one.

Thankfully sometimes, as in the case of Andy Ruiz, a late substitute to replace the drug addled Jarrell Miller, we'll get a 'live one' that will surprise the titlist.

Similarly in the case of Marcos Maidana, who certainly gave Mayweather a fair bit to think about too.

Over the years we've all seen a lot of boxers do a lot less and still get the decision.

But strangely enough, never when they're fighting a Mayweather or a Canelo.

[Counter-puncher]

That's certainly my impression that in a lot of these 'fights' that the carefully selected opponent (hired patsy) that poses little threat and is desperate for the money etc is only there to feign hostility, show up, lose, doff their csps and leave to count the tax deductibles.

oh yes, that right there is just a perfect description of GGG

[SportsRatings]

The Adalaide Byrd card was as black and white as corruption gets.

Wrong


The Adelaide Byrd card was typical of Adelaide Byrd scorecards
Even in irrelevant undercard fights she turns in scorecards that are perplexing to any other person that actually watched the fight.

Isn't that a great way to establish "aw she's just crazy" so when a bad card comes from her in an important fight people say "aww she's just crazy" instead of "the fix is in"?

I have no idea what the truth is, but the fact that all her cards are nuts proves nothing. The fact that she got established as one of very few female judges, while being incompetent, does say a lot. It says that she's there for a reason, and it's not her ability--nor any effort to actually promote female judges (in which case they'd find someone competent). To me it says that she serves a purpose there.

[lazboy]

Completely agree with the above. She was there for a reason. Judge cherry picking is a real issue for the sport.

[bjornborgbook]

bro (even) if you're right, didn't he basically cheat himself?

I mean, you're saying he agreed to go easy on Canelo, right? play it soft, Canelo gets to go two fights without getting a KO and GGG gets paid? that's your 'theory', right?

he took the deal, he agreed to go soft on Canelo. Dude cheated himself.

then he didn't even get the third fight that you're saying he was playing for. This guy's got some amazing intelligence according to you, one of the smartest guys in the boxing game, yet somehow he manages to put himself in a position where he throws not one, but two fights- and never even gets the promised payoff on throwing them?

man, he's made a sucker of himself there, right? i mean, damn, if he'd have tried he woulda knocked Canelo out FOR SURE bro GUARANTEED BABY.... damn, he coulda knocked Canelo out, but instead he deliberately didn't

we used to call that 'self-ownage', in earlier internet days.

The promised third fight is now on for Sept.
My theory is GGG was forced to play soft and lose to Canelo like Hagler was forced to do by Leonard for the jackpot. And Floyd did to just about all of his hired patsies.

Maybe forced is going a little far, but who knows?

That's certainly my impression that in a lot of these 'fights' that the carefully selected opponent (hired patsy) that poses little threat and is desperate for the money etc is only there to feign hostility, show up, lose, doff their csps and leave to count the tax deductibles.

Quite often we'll even see the challenger thanking the title holder for giving them the chance to challenge.

Every now and then we'll see a 'live one'.

How exactly is all this supposed to be a sport?

Canelo didn't just fix both GGG fights, he fixes all of his fights. And he's not the only one.

Thankfully sometimes, as in the case of Andy Ruiz, a late substitute to replace the drug addled Jarrell Miller, we'll get a 'live one' that will surprise the titlist.

Similarly in the case of Marcos Maidana, who certainly gave Mayweather a fair bit to think about too.

Over the years we've all seen a lot of boxers do a lot less and still get the decision.

But strangely enough, never when they're fighting a Mayweather or a Canelo.

Maidana was thei hired patsy for Floyd twice and got so rich he never fought again.

Also notice how nobody ever bad mouth Floyd and got personal and embarrassed him by talking about his low points (ducking, women beating), they all act nice and grateful.

My PBC fan friend even noticed how certain PBCpatsies are given fancy sports cars on the pre-fight hype shows, the cars and gifts are the obvious payoff to play soft. Lennox Lewis even got a Range Rover from Haymon for saying all that anti AJ Hearn propaganda, while defending and supporting Wilder for ducking AJ for $120m

Canelo is also treated like the boss, all patsies are grateful for the career high payday Gone are the days of a Tarver or Fury just verbally shredding and abusing Roy and Wladimir, which was intriguing theater. Actually Fury vs Whyte is definitely going to be real and that final press conference will be can't miss.

I believe AJ tanked the fight to Ruiz. Lost on purpose - to set up big money rematch. Dazn wanted a return on investment, and Hearn knew Wilder and Fury were not going to fight AJ so they tanked it and the rematch was HUGE money. Did you see the photo of Ruiz and AJ smiling together in the ring after the first fight? I believe AJ also threw the fight to Usyk, Now Matchroom has another big sellable hwt star - AJ, Whyte and now Usyk. We saw how incredible AJ looked vs Wlad, he absolutely tanked to Ruiz and AJ, he looked awful, pushing one punch at a time. Fury and WIlder know it too, that's they both are hesitant to fight him. They know they would get the real AJ which we saw vs Wlad.

[bjornborgbook]

That's certainly my impression that in a lot of these 'fights' that the carefully selected opponent (hired patsy) that poses little threat and is desperate for the money etc is only there to feign hostility, show up, lose, doff their csps and leave to count the tax deductibles.

oh yes, that right there is just a perfect description of GGG

GGG tried to carefully select Cotto, Martinez, Floyd 154, Jacobs and Canelo two years earlier but they all knew Golovkin would eat them all alive.

[bjornborgbook]

The Adalaide Byrd card was as black and white as corruption gets.

Wrong


The Adelaide Byrd card was typical of Adelaide Byrd scorecards
Even in irrelevant undercard fights she turns in scorecards that are perplexing to any other person that actually watched the fight.

Isn't that a great way to establish "aw she's just crazy" so when a bad card comes from her in an important fight people say "aww she's just crazy" instead of "the fix is in"?

I have no idea what the truth is, but the fact that all her cards are nuts proves nothing. The fact that she got established as one of very few female judges, while being incompetent, does say a lot. It says that she's there for a reason, and it's not her ability--nor any effort to actually promote female judges (in which case they'd find someone competent). To me it says that she serves a purpose there.

Adelaide Byrd is the hired fix judge, she is untouchable because of her skin color. If she is criticized too hard, the accuser is a racist. Eugenia Williams was another black woman who did the dirty work for the promoters by fixing her cards. Black privilege is real in boxing..

[Thomastearns]

The fact that someone as routinely and consistently incompetent or plain corrupt as Adalaide Byrd continues to get high profile fights without the entire boxing establishment protesting rather gives the game away doesn't it?

They don't care.

They don't see this as a sport, only some novice boxers and new fans do, and she is one of their useful business partners.

[Bandog]

GGG being cheated out of knocking out Floyd, Cotto, Martinez, Canelo was the same as if Ali had been cheated out of beating Frazier, Foreman.

Leonard being cheated out of beating Duran, Hearns, Benitez and Hagler.

Pacquiao being cheated out of beating Cotto, Hatton, Margarito, Oscar.

So GGG and boxing history was cheated out of seeing one of the best champions of all time get his best wins vs the best opponents. Because Cotto, FLoyd at 154, Martinez, Ward and Canelo all turned into cowards when it came time to fight Golovkin.

[bjornborgbook]

The fact that someone as routinely and consistently incompetent or plain corrupt as Adalaide Byrd continues to get high profile fights without the entire boxing establishment protesting rather gives the game away doesn't it?

They don't care.

They don't see this as a sport, only some novice boxers and new fans do, and she is one of their useful business partners.

Well said. Corruption greed and manipulation runs the "sport", each month it gets closer and closer to pro wrestling. Now wonder boxing only gets the failed athletes and cast offs from other sports. A great fighter can dedicate his entire life blood sweat and tears to becoming a champion and then can get cheated by the corrupt establishment rigged judges. Bob Arum cares nothing about honor, truth, justice, he his a greed demon lusting for more millions.