Was tysons power overrated?

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Tyson's knockouts do not seem more devastating than the kayoes of other big hitters. I don't think Tyson was the hardest puncher of his era but he certainly could hit. I wish measurements of punching power were available.
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Cojimar 1945 wrote:Tyson's knockouts do not seem more devastating than the kayoes of other big hitters. I don't think Tyson was the hardest puncher of his era but he certainly could hit. I wish measurements of punching power were available.
what are you talking about . tysons knockouts were more devastating than any other fighter in his era . He knocked guys half way across the ring caused them to flail around like a drunken sailor ie berbick or do the chicken dance like tubbs . Tell me what other heavyweight in his era had more devastating knock outs.
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shyguy wrote:
Cojimar 1945 wrote:Tyson's knockouts do not seem more devastating than the kayoes of other big hitters. I don't think Tyson was the hardest puncher of his era but he certainly could hit. I wish measurements of punching power were available.
what are you talking about . tysons knockouts were more devastating than any other fighter in his era . He knocked guys half way across the ring caused them to flail around like a drunken sailor ie berbick or do the chicken dance like tubbs . Tell me what other heavyweight in his era had more devastating knock outs.
Razor Ruddock. Scary stuff.

But Tyson was the better combination puncher.
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pundit wrote:
shyguy wrote:
Cojimar 1945 wrote:Tyson's knockouts do not seem more devastating than the kayoes of other big hitters. I don't think Tyson was the hardest puncher of his era but he certainly could hit. I wish measurements of punching power were available.
what are you talking about . tysons knockouts were more devastating than any other fighter in his era . He knocked guys half way across the ring caused them to flail around like a drunken sailor ie berbick or do the chicken dance like tubbs . Tell me what other heavyweight in his era had more devastating knock outs.
Razor Ruddock. Scary stuff.

But Tyson was the better combination puncher.


Razor Ruddock never knocked out guys with durable chins.
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Donovan Ruddock and Lennox Lewis seem to have kayo wins that are as spectacular as Tyson's best knockouts (though I have not seen all the fights). Lewis's kayo of Rahman was very impressive.
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Cojimar 1945 wrote:Donovan Ruddock and Lennox Lewis seem to have kayo wins that are as spectacular as Tyson's best knockouts (though I have not seen all the fights). Lewis's kayo of Rahman was very impressive.
no way ruddock never fucked up a guys equilibrium the way tyson did.
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Knocking guys out cold is impressive to me. I don't think the equilibrium stuff is quite as important.
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Its a hard thing to gauge.The hardest puncher is always the last guy to knock ya on your keeyster.
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Test results show tyson hit a lot harder than bruno

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...st uids= 3936571

brunos results


http://ps2.gamezone.com/news/05 20 02 08 21PM.htm

tyson results
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pundit wrote:
shyguy wrote:
Cojimar 1945 wrote:Tyson's knockouts do not seem more devastating than the kayoes of other big hitters. I don't think Tyson was the hardest puncher of his era but he certainly could hit. I wish measurements of punching power were available.
what are you talking about . tysons knockouts were more devastating than any other fighter in his era . He knocked guys half way across the ring caused them to flail around like a drunken sailor ie berbick or do the chicken dance like tubbs . Tell me what other heavyweight in his era had more devastating knock outs.
Razor Ruddock. Scary stuff.

But Tyson was the better combination puncher.

Agreed here. Tyson had excellent power in either hand. He had argualbly the best right uppercut, one of the best left hooks, or he could knock you out with the straight right. Alot of times people talk what a great left hook someone had or what a great right hand but Tyson was amadexterous.
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http://ps2.gamezone.com/news/05_20_02_08_21PM.


here is tysons power



http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/quer ... ds=3936571


here is brunos power. results show tyson hit harder.
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Cap wrote:
granberry wrote:Ali quit in his corner as soon as Holmes finally started throwing some serious punches.

Pathetic.

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Yeah. Especially when you remember Ali was in the absolute prime of his life.....
Hehehe that's pretty funny :TU:
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shyguy wrote:http://ps2.gamezone.com/news/05_20_02_08_21PM.


here is tysons power



http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/quer ... ds=3936571


here is brunos power. results show tyson hit harder.

the tyson-link does not work...... :wink:
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dempseyfire wrote:Tyson's power is def. over-rated. It's become part of the American popular culture. "he hits like Mike Tyson" or "how much would somebody have to pay you to go a round with Mike Tyson" are two common things people say in conversation. He was a widely popular and heavily promoted champion who at his peak was stopping almost all of his opponents. His pre-championship KOs are also heavily circulated on VHS and now the Internet, moreso than any other fighter in history.

But when you really compare film of Tyson to other great KO artists in the HW division, he is certainly not tops, or even in the top 5. Tyson with his frame and handspeed had great leverage in his shots and was able to land precise fast punches that took opponents out. He certainly had a good amount of power, but he did not have the simple one punch power of a Shavers, Weaver, or even Lennox Lewis. From a power standpoint, he wasn't putting down normally durable guys with one shot like Lyle did to Foreman, Shavers did to Holmes, or Louis did to Uzcudun. He would hurt his opponent and then overwhelm him with a flurry of shots, like he did vs Bruno and Berbick. Those guys were hurt, but they kept getting up.

Even from a precision and speed standpoint, Tyson is not top of the class. If you look at films of Louis and Tyson, Joe had clearly faster hands and was more accurate and a much better counter-puncher.

Once Tyson lost his footspeed and that leverage in the late 90s, you stopped seeing those highlight reel KOs. The Botha KO aside, this was a guy who couldn't clearly put away Nielson, or even hurt Lewis or Kevin McBride. He needed that dip and leverage (plus speed) to generate that power. On the other hand, Foreman had the footspeed of a dinosaur in his comeback but still demolished Cooney and Moorer, and kept Shannon
Briggs at bay for the length of their fight.
Well according to james tillis tysons power isnt overrated . He said that tyson hit him even harder than acorn.
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shyguy wrote: Well according to james tillis tysons power isnt overrated . He said that tyson hit him even harder than acorn.
Why don't you ask Tyson for a free punch and then you report to us. :roll:
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