Ike Ibeabuchi vs. Lennox lewis

[thatsnotabanana]

Lennox ducked the following guys while he was still active:

Chris Byrd (he was afraid of being boxed silly)
John Ruiz (his clinching would have frustrated the hell out of him)
Wladimir Klitschko (had Lennox not have bitched out of boxing, he would have been forced to fight either Vitali (again) or Wladimir. Funny, you spar with a guy in Ocean's 11, but you won't face him for real. LOL)

Lennox would have ducked the following guys today.
Sam Peter (he hits to hard for him, he would have bitched out)
Nikolay Valuev (he's too tall, he would have bitched out)
Brian Minto (he's horrible and he still would have bitched out)

RIP Lennox- the best guy you beat was an ancient Iron Mike

So many retards on this forum today.

So your saying he wouldn't fight Peter, but fought (and schooled) big hitting Tua. (Peter is a poor mans Tua) Lewis would of easily beat every guy on that list. Funny thing is, had Lewis not fought Rahman,Tyson Vitali then there would still be trolls saying he ducked those too.

Lennox Lewis is an ATG, deal with it.

The rest of my post was satire keeping in mind Lennox as a huge coward in recent years.

THIS SH*T IS FACT::::

HE DUCKED BYRD AND LOST THE TITLE. THAT VACATED TITLE WAS FOUGHT BETWEEN BYRD AND HOLYFIELD IN 2002. BYRD WON.

HE DUCKED RUIZ AND LOST THE TITLE. THAT VACATED TITLE WAS FOUGHT BETWEEN RUIZ AND HOLYFIELD IN 2000. HOLYFIELD WON (IN THE FIRST BOUT).

If Lennox was so good, what was he so scared of against these guys???

Tyson going to jail was a good omen, because Lennox would not exist today.

[lvlarc]

You must not be aware that Tyson chose to "duck" Lewis in the 90's also.

You don't offer much, ok I'm off.

[tboy100]

Ike v. some of the all-time greats

TKO1 Joe Frazier, see Foreman-Frazier, only quicker
W12 Larry Holmes, Holmes gets knocked down a few times but his chin sees him through
TKO4 Sonny Liston, Liston doesn't come out after taking 3 rounds of Ike's punches.
KO3 Joe Louis, Joe can't get up this time.
W12 David Tua, close but Ike nicks it.
KO9 Rocky Marciano, Rocky never faced a puncher like the President.
W12 Muhammad Ali, see Tua

Don't get me wrong Ibeabuchi was quality with wins over Tua and Byrd, but the rest is just what if's at it's best! Look's like some easy nights for Ike versus Frazier, Liston and Louis?? hahahahahahaha Where's all this hot luvin for Ike coming from all of a sudden?

How about - Ike's super matchup explorer guide points:
* Choose a fighter you like (I like Ike)
* Match them up against all time greats
* Just add some clouds, a pinch of fairy dust and a bottled potion from the little people
* Come up with a classic selection of great victories for your fighter

Ike v Godzilla W12
Ike v King Kong KO10
Ike v Minotaur KO5
Ike v The Thing (horror flick) D12

[billythekid]

Lennox ducked the following guys while he was still active:

Chris Byrd (he was afraid of being boxed silly)
John Ruiz (his clinching would have frustrated the hell out of him)
Wladimir Klitschko (had Lennox not have bitched out of boxing, he would have been forced to fight either Vitali (again) or Wladimir. Funny, you spar with a guy in Ocean's 11, but you won't face him for real. LOL)

Lennox would have ducked the following guys today.
Sam Peter (he hits to hard for him, he would have bitched out)
Nikolay Valuev (he's too tall, he would have bitched out)
Brian Minto (he's horrible and he still would have bitched out)

RIP Lennox- the best guy you beat was an ancient Iron Mike

So many retards on this forum today.

So your saying he wouldn't fight Peter, but fought (and schooled) big hitting Tua. (Peter is a poor mans Tua) Lewis would of easily beat every guy on that list. Funny thing is, had Lewis not fought Rahman,Tyson Vitali then there would still be trolls saying he ducked those too.

Lennox Lewis is an ATG, deal with it.

The rest of my post was satire keeping in mind Lennox as a huge coward in recent years.

THIS SH*T IS FACT::::

HE DUCKED BYRD AND LOST THE TITLE. THAT VACATED TITLE WAS FOUGHT BETWEEN BYRD AND HOLYFIELD IN 2002. BYRD WON.

HE DUCKED RUIZ AND LOST THE TITLE. THAT VACATED TITLE WAS FOUGHT BETWEEN RUIZ AND HOLYFIELD IN 2000. HOLYFIELD WON (IN THE FIRST BOUT).

If Lennox was so good, what was he so scared of against these guys???

Tyson going to jail was a good omen, because Lennox would not exist today.

Byrd offered no money for him you dope. Don't you think he looked at how both Klitschko brothers walked right through him? He ws not afraid of the guy, he wanted to get paid. Lewis would have walked right through him. Bowe threw his belt in the trash rather than fight Lewis. Lewis had already KO'd him in the olympics. Lewis KO'd Tyson beat Holyfield when he got the chance to. His loss to McCall set his timetable back but he really did not duck anyone. Tyson and Holyfield were more formidable than Byrd.

[Seamus]

Ike Ibeabuchi vs Godzilla, King Kong, the Incredible Hulk, NOW those are alot more realistic matchups then the President vs the greatest cruiserweights of the 30's-50's.

[Jaybee From The Castle]

I see LL has his little girl-scout fan club in tow today. Let me enlighten you nuthuggers...

If Lummox fought Byrd, he'd have lost a lopsided decision.

If he'd fought an in-shape Tua, not the fat blob he turned into in 2k, he'd have gotten KO'ed;

If he'd fought Tyson in the early 90's, he'd have gotten KO'ed;

If he fought the 36y.o Holy who beat Tyson, not the 39y.o fading version, he'd have lost a lopsided points decision.

Lewis only looked good fighting headcases like Golota and a washed-up Tyson.

All time great? More like All-Time Grunt!!!


Jaybee.

[BoxBuzz]

I disagree, I'm pretty sure Lewis could beat Dennis the Menace, The Beaver, Waldo (If he could find him) and probably Elmo and a half dozen other famous kid actors and cartoon characters.

Not Popeye or Blutto though.

[jezzamundo]

Ike only beat Tua maybe 7 rounds to 5, and we all know what Lewis did with him.

How much this means in terms of the two fighting? Bugger all really. From what I've seen of Ibeabuchi, he was a predominantly head-down inside fighter. I'm not really sure what sort of style he would have used against Lennox, but either way I think the most likely result is Lewis by a clear decision.

[KOJOE90]

ike ibakochee KO1 eesy he wood domanat lweis

I fink u wong on dat.

[KOJOE90]

I see LL has his little girl-scout fan club in tow today. Let me enlighten you nuthuggers...

If Lummox fought Byrd, he'd have lost a lopsided decision.

If he'd fought an in-shape Tua, not the fat blob he turned into in 2k, he'd have gotten KO'ed;

If he'd fought Tyson in the early 90's, he'd have gotten KO'ed;

If he fought the 36y.o Holy who beat Tyson, not the 39y.o fading version, he'd have lost a lopsided points decision.

Lewis only looked good fighting headcases like Golota and a washed-up Tyson.

All time great? More like All-Time Grunt!!!


Jaybee.

If, if, if, if if . if, if if, if if .

[KOJOE90]

I He got locked up b/c he refused to be part of Don King's stable and I believe disrespected Don in the process..

Man this is so funny, cheers dude for the laugh.

[yiddo14]

Byrd would'nt have outboxed Lewis,he would have had too much power for him.Lewis would have got KO'ed....

A fit Tua would have out-boxed Lewis ALL NIGHT on his way to a clear points win.....

A prime Mike Tyson would have broke Lewis so bad mentally,that Lewis would have passed out on the way to the ring,probably to never fight again.....

A prime Holyfield would have nullified that Lewis jab with ease,taking it on his rock hard forehead before stopping Lewis with an almighty headbutt in the 6th round......

Ruiz would have been too fast for Lewis,he would have slipped every punch Lewis threw and countered all night,before stopping Lewis with a 15 punch unanswered combination in the 10th round.....

Well,this all fit's in with the utter bullshit written in previous posts......

Fact is this....
Tyson did'nt want any of Lewis when he came out of jail,maybe he remembered their sparring session as youngsters....
Holyfield was never able to outbox Lennox and did'nt have the power to ever trouble him.So how anyone can beleive Holyfirld at ANY time of his career could beat Lewis is beyond me....
Bowe was also scared of Lewis...

As for Lewis being scared of Ruiz and Byrd...Well,as has been stated,these guys could'nt bring enough cash to the table at a time when Lewis only wanted defining fights,or big money fights.
If you want to see how these guys would have fared with Lewis,check out Byrd getting destroyed by Wlad and Ike.Lewis would have KO'ed Byrd in 3 rounds,without any doubt.
Ruiz the same if not quicker.

FAR too many Lewis haters out there,and they can't back up there ridiculous statements with any logical reason...

As for Lewis v Ike.....When Lewis was taking on unbeaten guys who had looked the part previously(Grant,Golota)He raised his game.
Lewis would have out boxed Ike,breaking him down and stopping him late.

Ike were'nt fit to lace Lewis' boots.
It's all myth,Ike this,Ike that....what did Ike achieve that makes anyone believe he could have beat an all time top10 heavy like Lewis???

And no,your hate for Lewis is'nt a good enough reason.....

[JC]

Holyfield was never able to outbox Lennox and did'nt have the power to ever trouble him.So how anyone can beleive Holyfirld at ANY time of his career could beat Lewis is beyond me....
Bowe was also scared of Lewis...

I agree there has been some crap talked on this thread, Byrd and Ruiz please... But I think you a wrong about Holyfield, a considerably faded version did very well vs Lewis in there second encounter. Don't forget you don't have to nessessarily "out-box" someone to get a decision, the 1991 Holyfield was an abosolute monster with a great workrate.

[theone]

But I think you a wrong about Holyfield, a considerably faded version did very well vs Lewis in there second encounter. Don't forget you don't have to nessessarily "out-box" someone to get a decision, the 1991 Holyfield was an abosolute monster with a great workrate.

Im with you on this one. This is the only part of yiddo14's post I did not agree with. Everything else he wrote was right on the money.

[yiddo14]

Yeah,looking back maybe I got a bit carried away,and Holy was'nt given enough respect from me in my previous post!!

I think prime for prime,Lewis/Holyfield would have been a fascinating match up,but I would always lean toward Lewis.The fight would have been a lot closer than what I suggested previously though.

[Thunder and Lightning]

I will be honest i did not know who this guy Ike was so i looked up his record realy not that impresive, David Tua and Chris Byrd where the two only i realy knew.

So i wonder is this a joke i read that he would steamrole over Lewis and someone say he would beat all the greats (Ali, Frazier, Louis, Marciano etc) so i'm just asking and somewhat hoping, is this a joke?

[BrocktonBlockbuster49]

a 37 year old far past it evander did IMO beat lennox in the rematch

[BrocktonBlockbuster49]

im actually one who thinks highly of the president. but he did not do enough in his career to say he could have beaten lennox lewis. hes just too unproven despite holding 2 wins over major contenders of that era. i truelly believe though that ike would have gone on to become the dominant HW champ of this era.

[yiddo14]

a 37 year old far past it evander did IMO beat lennox in the rematch

Sorry but I can't share your opinion.
And according to the American press(Biggest Lewis haters around)neither did they...

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/more/b ... ndbyround/

It seem's a lot of people notice that the 2nd fight was closer than the 1st fight,and assume because that was a draw that Holyfield must have won the 2nd fight.
Fact is Lewis won BOTH fights,the first one at ease.The 2nd fight he has admitted himself he did'nt take as seriously(something he has been noted for doing in his career,McCall,Rahman,Bruno and Klitschko)yet he still done enough to win it.

I love Holyfield,he is one of my favourite ever fighters,but I don't let it blind me into thinking he won the 2nd fight against Lewis.

As for 'prime' Holyfield beating Lewis,I just can't see it.He was very hit and miss in his 'prime',and I just can't see him ever beating a fit,on form,prime Lewis.