Did GGG threaten Canelo with truth bomb to secure third fight?

[bjornborgbook]

In boxing, certain fights don't get made easily. GGG vs Canelo 3 is one that has been delayed now for years. It seemed Canelo didn't really want it. Why? The speculation would be that Canelo forced GGG to play soft in the first two fights to get the jackpot paydays in which they both knew the judges were going to transfer the titles in the second fight. Canelo has all the leverage now. GGG is tired of waiting. So last week he dropped the truth bomb though with softer more tactful language that Canelo fixed their two fights. Suddenly after Canelo reveals his 2022 plans are now Bivsol first and then the GGG 3 fight later in the year (of course Canelo will beat hired patsy happy to get the jackpot Bivol and GGG will beat Murata.) I suspect GGG's saying Canelo fixed the first two fights was a threat - and if Canelo did not give him the third fight, GGG was going to spill all the beans and reveal that he had to agree to play soft to get the big money fights.

For some this will be a stretch but Eddie Hearn just said yesterday GGG and Canelo hate each other. But why? They were business partners and very respectful before and after the first fight. Canelo calls all the shots why would he hate GGG? Because GGG has the leverage of the knife of truth of the two fights being fixed over his neck?

If Canelo really hated GGG why did he not make the third fight years ago so he could kick his ass in the ring? I think there's a lot more to this situation, this battle behind the scenes that the media don't know about. It was very alarming last week when GGG essentially said Canelo fixed the fights. Very interesting situation. Big drama show indeed.

[Counter-puncher]

you're a fvcking imbecile fantastist, and a freak, congratulations you win the internet's self-delusion award for the day.

oh and you're a repetitive fvcking bore as well, you basically just make the same fkin post over and over again

and nobody, bar that other one single freak pays you any credence, not on the first or second or third or fourth time you post that sh1t, but never mind that, self-awareness clearly isn't your long suit is it, because you have to go and start another thread re-hashing the same old tired boring weak-minded conspiracy bullsh1t.

all to make yourself feel like you're one of life's red-pill connoisseurs, like well done bro

[Wee Tommy]

It looked to me like they were pulling their punches and actually counting the hits, 2 to you, 3 to me so that Canelo would win the rounds.

Definitely agree both fights fixed. Neither took any real damage.

[Counter-puncher]

It looked to me like they were pulling their punches and actually counting the hits, 2 to you, 3 to me so that Canelo would win the rounds.

Definitely agree both fights fixed. Neither took any real damage.

[Thomastearns]

Top level boxing is a business.

Just how much a business I guess we'll never know.

Most of the wheeling and dealing seems to be quite deliberately obscured.

Every now and then someone in the know will speak up and add their 2 cents.

Here's Tom Loeffler clearing up the GGG v Ward proposed fight controversy at around the 39 minutes mark.

[bjornborgbook]

It looked to me like they were pulling their punches and actually counting the hits, 2 to you, 3 to me so that Canelo would win the rounds.

Definitely agree both fights fixed. Neither took any real damage.

Yes, soft sparring not full speed or intensity. Exhibition fake fight. It looked like Canelo put the old squeeze play on him: If you want the jackpot payday $20,000,000, you must dance to my tune, which is play soft, let me win. If you don't like my terms go fight more nobodies for $1m each.

Any money maker fighter with such a lopsided leverage and earning power would do the same to the small guy. Floyd did it forever. Looks like Roy did it. Leonard did it to Hagler and a few others perhaps Lalonde, etc. That's the business.

[Wee Tommy]

It looked to me like they were pulling their punches and actually counting the hits, 2 to you, 3 to me so that Canelo would win the rounds.

Definitely agree both fights fixed. Neither took any real damage.

Yes, soft sparring not full speed or intensity. Exhibition fake fight. It looked like Canelo put the old squeeze play on him: If you want the jackpot payday $20,000,000, you must dance to my tune, which is play soft, let me win. If you don't like my terms go fight more nobodies for $1m each.

Any money maker fighter with such a lopsided leverage and earning power would do the same to the small guy. Floyd did it forever. Looks like Roy did it. Leonard did it to Hagler and a few others perhaps Lalonde, etc. That's the business.

Are you a boxing insider mate? Not many people on here have the knowledge of the fight game to make such hypotheses.

You’ll notice not many even agree with the facts you stated about the business side.

[bjornborgbook]

It looked to me like they were pulling their punches and actually counting the hits, 2 to you, 3 to me so that Canelo would win the rounds.

Definitely agree both fights fixed. Neither took any real damage.

Yes, soft sparring not full speed or intensity. Exhibition fake fight. It looked like Canelo put the old squeeze play on him: If you want the jackpot payday $20,000,000, you must dance to my tune, which is play soft, let me win. If you don't like my terms go fight more nobodies for $1m each.

Any money maker fighter with such a lopsided leverage and earning power would do the same to the small guy. Floyd did it forever. Looks like Roy did it. Leonard did it to Hagler and a few others perhaps Lalonde, etc. That's the business.

Are you a boxing insider mate? Not many people on here have the knowledge of the fight game to make such hypotheses.

You’ll notice not many even agree with the facts you stated about the business side.

Doesn't matter what I am mate and it doesn't matter how many believe or disbelieve. It's wise to question everything and brave to seek the truth hidden behind all the fraud and deception. Canelo is like Hulk Hogan now, he makes too much money for too many people. Losing to a 35 plus guy from Kazakhstan who draws and sells a fraction of what Canelo does is not an option. Follow the you know what...

[Wee Tommy]

Yes, soft sparring not full speed or intensity. Exhibition fake fight. It looked like Canelo put the old squeeze play on him: If you want the jackpot payday $20,000,000, you must dance to my tune, which is play soft, let me win. If you don't like my terms go fight more nobodies for $1m each.

Any money maker fighter with such a lopsided leverage and earning power would do the same to the small guy. Floyd did it forever. Looks like Roy did it. Leonard did it to Hagler and a few others perhaps Lalonde, etc. That's the business.

Are you a boxing insider mate? Not many people on here have the knowledge of the fight game to make such hypotheses.

You’ll notice not many even agree with the facts you stated about the business side.

Doesn't matter what I am mate and it doesn't matter how many believe or disbelieve. It's wise to question everything and brave to seek the truth hidden behind all the fraud and deception. Canelo is like Hulk Hogan now, he makes too much money for too many people. Losing to a 35 plus guy from Kazakhstan who draws and sells a fraction of what Canelo does is not an option. Follow the you know what...

Are you trying to say you are a transvestite?

[Counter-puncher]

this fkin clown, man.

[Counter-puncher]

'brave', did you see that', it's 'brave' of him?



I love it when people have to dignify their own stances, better yet when they do so with complete fkin madness

he's very 'brave' to question this all, you know. respect him. respect the sacrifices he makes. respect the risks he takes, in exposing this crooked sport. it's pure selflessness, we should respect that.

[Counter-puncher]

It's brave to seek the truth hidden behind all the fraud and deception.

[bjornborgbook]

It's plausible GGG vs Canelo 3 is the real fight and not play soft like the first two and that's why Canelo has ducked it. But GGG forced his hand. GGG at 39 may still be too good for the protected one.

[Counter-puncher]

shut up, you pathetic weirdo

[Cent0089]

If its trolling, its pathetic. If its serious topic, it is even more pathetic

[Wee Tommy]

It's brave to seek the truth hidden behind all the fraud and deception.

It’s doesn’t matter what he is mate. He’s wise and brave

[Counter-puncher]

It's brave to seek the truth hidden behind all the fraud and deception.

It’s doesn’t matter what he is mate. He’s wise and brave

the Kilts and Usyk have got nothing on this guy mate

[adislav123]

i'm not going into the delusional fantasy shit this clown comes up with. it's too stoopid. pure full on retardation.

just for the record as the 'official record' states otherwise:

golovkin beat canelo in both fights. back 2 back.

2nd fight was a bit closer. still no way ggg lost it, he won still clearly.

he got denied the win in both fights by corrupt judges.

if u watch both fights and see anything else but golovkin winning, you are clueless.

[caldo2025]

i'm not going into the delusional fantasy shit this clown comes up with. it's too stoopid. pure full on retardation.

just for the record as the 'official record' states otherwise:

golovkin beat canelo in both fights. back 2 back.

2nd fight was a bit closer. still no way ggg lost it, he won still clearly.

he got denied the win in both fights by corrupt judges.

if u watch both fights and see anything else but golovkin winning, you are clueless.

Absolutely agree. I’ve literally watched both fights at least 10xs per and scored them manually each time. I even tried to score each as a Canelo fan and I still can’t give him even a draw in the 1st fight but did find a way to award him a draw in my last time watching the 2nd one. But I was going out of my way to award punches to Canelo that never scored.

One thing that I do know is that the punch stats in that 2nd fight were as bogus of a tally that I’ve EVER seen in my life. That’s many fights. I literally counted the punches manually for that last fight and there’s no possible way Canelo could have landed what they claimed. A couple of rounds represented scoring punch tally that was well more than Canelo ever threw. In those rounds he landed 145% of his punches.

[bjornborgbook]

More evidence GGG forced the third Canelo fight by threatening to reveal Canelo fixed both fights...

“First of all, there’s no bad blood from my side, I’m not taking it personal. But commenting on his approach, he says it’s personal, where has he been after our second fight? For so long, why did he try to accumulate that bad blood? That is kind of unprofessional, too low when a fighter describes his approach to a fight in that way," Golovkin told The Sun.

This is interesting. GGG alleged and hinted a few weeks ago Canelo fixed both fights but he worded it delicately, as if to warn Canelo "I will tell all if you don't give me the third fight."

So GGG is now asking if Canelo feels such hostility and bad blood for GGG why did he wait over two years to do the third fight? And what is the bad blood based on? It's as if GGG is telling us Canelo is angry that GGG is threatening to reveal the first two fights were rigged by Canelo. Very interesting mind games by GGG.

[Wales]

And what is the bad blood based on?

It’s based on the fact canelo was caught using steroids before their fight hence it was postponed but canelo blamed contaminated beef. GGG publicly said that was bullshit and said Canelo was a drug cheat.