Ian John Lewis and Victor Laughlin

[Tarquin Tarpaulin IV]

Could the BBBoC be stripped/replaced of their duty overseeing British Boxing?

The time for change is long overdue.
Sport England are the only people who could illicit change as they are the government body that recognises the BBB of C as the governing body for pro boxing and England Boxing for the amateurs.

However, the majority of boxing activity that takes place in this country is not under the jurisdiction of the above bodies. Source - *Sport England's own figures.
*780,000 people regularly participate in boxing.

If Sport England were to look for guidance then, Chris Evans MP is a Director/Administrative Steward of the BBBofC. He's also Chair of the APPG (All Party Parliamentary Group for Boxing)who's main aim is 'To engage with government and parliament to support all aspects of boxing.' On paper he could do something about the Taylor/Catteral debacle, but having a foot in both camps makes his position on this matter untenable.

In addition Chris's best forte isn't understanding somewhat obtuse situations if this recent article is anything to go by.

[Spud]

it’ll be swept under the carpet and they’ll all carry on as ifnothing happened.

Sadly true

[Perkin Warbeck]

Ian John-Lewis has shown over and over again that he's corrupt, always favoring one boxer over another.

Why is he allowed to continue to work world title fights? He makes British boxing look bad in the eyes of the world.

[margaret thatcher]

because rob smith loves himself some ijl

[Boxerbeetle]

The only thing that will actually make a difference is if the big players outside of the old boys club take a stand.

Broadcasters should object to officials like IJL from appearing on their shows, saying the ineptitude causes them to lose potential viewers and advertising revenue, and bookies should refuse to take bets on fights where he’s appointed, saying they can’t trust the outcome will be fair for their punters.

That’s the sort of thing which will invite real scrutiny, the BBBoC will do fvck all unless external pressure forces their hand.

Looks like this might finally be happening. Pressure is on, BBBoC…

[Wee Tommy]

The only thing that will actually make a difference is if the big players outside of the old boys club take a stand.

Broadcasters should object to officials like IJL from appearing on their shows, saying the ineptitude causes them to lose potential viewers and advertising revenue, and bookies should refuse to take bets on fights where he’s appointed, saying they can’t trust the outcome will be fair for their punters.

That’s the sort of thing which will invite real scrutiny, the BBBoC will do fvck all unless external pressure forces their hand.

Looks like this might finally be happening. Pressure is on, BBBoC…

Speaker: Dials 999….

“Hello police”

Speaker: I’d like to report a robbery

[Ricky]

The only thing that will actually make a difference is if the big players outside of the old boys club take a stand.

Broadcasters should object to officials like IJL from appearing on their shows, saying the ineptitude causes them to lose potential viewers and advertising revenue, and bookies should refuse to take bets on fights where he’s appointed, saying they can’t trust the outcome will be fair for their punters.

That’s the sort of thing which will invite real scrutiny, the BBBoC will do fvck all unless external pressure forces their hand.

Looks like this might finally be happening. Pressure is on, BBBoC…

Speaker: Dials 999….

“Hello police”

Speaker: I’d like to report a robbery

Just seen this news.

Tbh maybe not such a bad thing, forcing change in any sport usually requires a big old stink to be made. I'd settle for IJL getting fired.

[IRONFIST]

The only thing that will actually make a difference is if the big players outside of the old boys club take a stand.

Broadcasters should object to officials like IJL from appearing on their shows, saying the ineptitude causes them to lose potential viewers and advertising revenue, and bookies should refuse to take bets on fights where he’s appointed, saying they can’t trust the outcome will be fair for their punters.

That’s the sort of thing which will invite real scrutiny, the BBBoC will do fvck all unless external pressure forces their hand.

Looks like this might finally be happening. Pressure is on, BBBoC…

Speaker: Dials 999….

“Hello police”

Speaker: I’d like to report a robbery

With two eyewitnesses named Mr Lewis and Mr Laughlin...

[Ruthless-RKO]

They have actually robbed Catterall.. immediate future purses.

I mean we’ve seen worse robberies yes. I don’t mind this getting a lot of attention.

The more the better. Maybe something will be done.

[TheGun13]

This is the interesting quote from Hoyle:

"I also believe that something seriously went on here - whether it was undue influence, one must question why?"

I wonder how deep they will go here. Some of the organisations involved with this fight I'm sure won't stand up to much scrutiny if investigated, but the question is whether the authorities have the appetite to get deep into this. I'm certain the BBBOC don't.

[JamesPhilips]

Nothing will happen. It never does.

[olij999]

This is the interesting quote from Hoyle:

"I also believe that something seriously went on here - whether it was undue influence, one must question why?"

I wonder how deep they will go here. Some of the organisations involved with this fight I'm sure won't stand up to much scrutiny if investigated, but the question is whether the authorities have the appetite to get deep into this. I'm certain the BBBOC don't.

This referral to the police is a bit bizarre. What crime does the Speaker think has been committed? Presumably something similar to the cricket spot-fixing (see https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Cr ... /2914.html for that) - conspiracy to cheat or something? If so, what evidence (or even reasonable suspicion) does he have of financial malpractice? What he's really saying is that he thinks it was a really bad decision, but that happens in lots of sports every weekend and isn't criminal. All very odd.

Also, what I don't get is why people are picking on Ian John-Lewis in this specific case (setting aside, for the moment, people's views on his past decisions as referee or judge) - none of the three judges scored a majority of the rounds for Catterall. If you ignore the point deduction from each fighter and the one-point adjustment in Catterall's favour for the knockdown, the score in rounds comes out as 8-4 (IJL), 7-5 and 6-6. None had Catterall winning 7 rounds or more.

[coneye]

Has James just said nothing will happen , but what needs tto happen is the bbbc need to be accountable ,dont know if theres any lawysrs on here wbo can tell us , but a couple of court cases wluld go a long wzy to helping ,, would Catteral have a chance legally to contest that farce ,, would bookies be able to claim the fix is in and not pay .

I Mean were not dealing with choir boys here, look who,s behind Davidson and Taylor , did Davidson really get the job with Taylor and others , because he brushes his hair a lot , or because he,s well in with certain people ,, This fight was worth MILLIONS to the winner and stuff me i,ve seen judges sway towards a fighter / homeboy , because they got a decent meal before and a few beers after never mind where multi millions are involved ,, and like itg keeps getting pointed out its the same people all the time , it just cant be continual incompetence

[Dioufy]

Tenner bet Iain John Lewis is the referee for Whyte v Fury.

[Bercli]

Could the BBBoC be stripped/replaced of their duty overseeing British Boxing?

The Board is self regulating. No one officially runs British boxing. If you had the money,inclination and the right people involved there is nothing stopping Yiu setting your own board

[Boxerbeetle]

Obviously nothing will happen with a police investigation anyway, but at least it will put real scrutiny on the BBBoC. It should shine a proper light on - at minimum - the incompetence of their officials and the board’s consistent refusal to do anything about it.

[gregregegg]

Jack catteral has been absolutely hammering the police tip line over the last week.

SWAT team inbound to Ian John Lewiss house...

[Steveh583]

i think its great that its getting that kind of attention. may help hard done by fighters in the future

[margaret thatcher]

This is the interesting quote from Hoyle:

"I also believe that something seriously went on here - whether it was undue influence, one must question why?"

I wonder how deep they will go here. Some of the organisations involved with this fight I'm sure won't stand up to much scrutiny if investigated, but the question is whether the authorities have the appetite to get deep into this. I'm certain the BBBOC don't.

This referral to the police is a bit bizarre. What crime does the Speaker think has been committed? Presumably something similar to the cricket spot-fixing (see https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Cr ... /2914.html for that) - conspiracy to cheat or something? If so, what evidence (or even reasonable suspicion) does he have of financial malpractice? What he's really saying is that he thinks it was a really bad decision, but that happens in lots of sports every weekend and isn't criminal. All very odd.

Also, what I don't get is why people are picking on Ian John-Lewis in this specific case (setting aside, for the moment, people's views on his past decisions as referee or judge) - none of the three judges scored a majority of the rounds for Catterall. If you ignore the point deduction from each fighter and the one-point adjustment in Catterall's favour for the knockdown, the score in rounds comes out as 8-4 (IJL), 7-5 and 6-6. None had Catterall winning 7 rounds or more.

you sound like a bit of an apologist for sh!t judging tbh, not the first time you've called it 'odd' for people to be speaking out against the decision. are you the fellow who is/was a bbbc inspector?

surely you should understand why the guy with the widest card, with the biggest history of awful judging, would get picked on more. not sure why you dont get it when it's pretty simple

[Coco]

Imagine IJL getting interviewed under caution!

Would past crimes be taken into consideration!

[dookus]

Imagine IJL getting interviewed under caution!

Would past crimes be taken into consideration!

He'd panic and stop the interview as soon as one of his answers had a visible effect

[margaret thatcher]

probably then run back shaking and in tears to daddy smith, who would console him and calm him and reassure him that it could've gone either way, and that all the critics are just lazy drunks who never put on a pair of gloves in their lives

[dookus]

probably then run back shaking and in tears to daddy smith, who would console him and calm him and reassure him that it could've gone either way, and that all the critics are just lazy drunks who never put on a pair of gloves in their lives

<cutting political satire> well if Parliament really does investigate this fight then he wouldn't be wrong! </cutting political satire>

[margaret thatcher]

[KiwiRider]

The only thing that will actually make a difference is if the big players outside of the old boys club take a stand.

Broadcasters should object to officials like IJL from appearing on their shows, saying the ineptitude causes them to lose potential viewers and advertising revenue, and bookies should refuse to take bets on fights where he’s appointed, saying they can’t trust the outcome will be fair for their punters.

That’s the sort of thing which will invite real scrutiny, the BBBoC will do fvck all unless external pressure forces their hand.

Looks like this might finally be happening. Pressure is on, BBBoC…

Speaker: Dials 999….

“Hello police”

Speaker: I’d like to report a robbery

Classic!