Fury vs Whyte sparring: Which one is the pathological liar?

[bjornborgbook]

Fury: “I’ve sparred Dillian Whyte many, many times and every single time I’ve used him as a punching bag,” Fury said in an interview with Carl Frampton on a BT Sport segment. “There were times when he couldn’t defend himself. There were times where we had to stop the sparring.”

“There’s no substance to it, knocking me down umpteenth times and all that,” Fury said. “Just say he did knock me down eight times in sparring — just say eight— we all know, and you’re a former world champion, sparring ain’t fighting is it? How many times have you seen people in the gym get absolutely busted up and on fight night they box like Sugar Ray Leonard?

Suddenly Fury's mental health seesaws and he contradicts what he just said, essentially admitting he had a bad day vs Whyte...

“Sometimes you don’t have good days in the gym, bad days, whatever. But sparring ain’t fighting. Just for the record, he never knocked me down once, and I’ve never been knocked down in sparring ever.”

“Well sparring ain’t fighting if you ain’t got eight ounce gloves on,” Fury continued. “10 for me. When the gloves are on, with the smaller gloves wrapped up, that’s what really counts. I believe sparring is more like an exercise to practice what you’re gonna do in the real fight. It doesn’t matter if you get it wrong 100 times in the gym as long as you get it right one time on the night.”

Whyte: “I don't like telling sparring stories, but people in the game know,” the Jamaican-born, London-based Whyte (28-2, 19 KOs) said last year. “They know about me. Well, me and Tyson Fury sparred, and I bashed him about and dropped him on multiple occasions. Simple as that.”

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Analysis: Whyte has no history of lying and fabricating fraud tales of BS, and no motive to start now, while Fury does if he was the one who was manhandled in sparring by Whyte. Based on reading these three, not two, accounts - it seems Fury is the insecure mentally unstable one trying to talk his way out of the memory getting beaten up in sparring by Whyte. Fury seems to be trying to downplay and minimize the memory he has of getting the shi7 beat out of him by Whyte in sparring as just sparring and just a bad day. But words can't erase actions and actions produce results. I sense there is some kind of weird strange superiority that Whyte possessed over Fury mentally and physically. I sense some kind of weird odd irrational fear by Fury of Whyte. And I expect this to play out on April 23.

No matter how great a champion appears to be, there is always somebody out there who has his number. Fury is the big favorite and the hunted now, Whyte is the hunter. Whyte has patiently lurked in the background behind the weeds quietly scheming and dreaming and preparing to slay the goliath. I believe Whyte has the arsenal and psychological belief that he will destroy Fury and it's going to happen.

[HomicideHenry]

Fury is Fury. The way he's talking is no different than any other time he ever has before. People are making mountains out of molehills. Based on the logic people have about Whyte and sparring stories it would make you think that Greg Page could have beaten Mike Tyson because he dropped him once in sparring in prep for James Douglas.

[Counter-puncher]

this fkin clown and his hobbyhorses

he rides those poor fvckers to death

never mind that they're the kind of broken-down toy horses that you used to see on decrepit 1980s fairgrounds and they can barely even take the weight of a very small child, and they certainly can't do anything difficult like, say, walk or trot, but never mind that, this fkin clown...

so we've got the 'WHYTE IS MUCH BETTER THAN FURY! I AM UNIQUELY INSIGHTFUL BECAUSE I SEE THIS! I USE SUBTLE PSYCHOLOGICAL ANALYSIS', we've got the 'BOXING IS FIXED, GGG THROWS FIGHTS, I AM THE ONLY PERSON WHO CAN UNDERSTAND THIS!'

any more hobbyhorses that this dumb sick putz likes to flog to death? those among you with even the slightest concern for animal welfare should maybe offer some help, here.

[Counter-puncher]

Analysis:

'analysis' brilliant.

it's like the forensic scientist, weighing and deliberating on the evidence, using the vast stores of knowledge and experience at his disposal, to come down from on high, and dispense his weighty proclamations to the herds.

I do so hope you are all grateful.

[Counter-puncher]

I sense I sense

[maverick23]

Fury has talked more rubbish than any fighter I can remember so I take anything he says with a pinch of salt.

I’d also be surprised though if Whyte was telling the truth re: the knockdowns.

[Counter-puncher]

dude, from now on, you're Sarah, ok?

[Enlightened-One]

I’d also be surprised though if Whyte was telling the truth re: the knockdowns.

I reckon Tyson Fury is one of those fighters that enjoys sparring, even when he’s out-of-shape, between fights and isn’t anywhere near his best.

He even admitted (twelve years ago) that AJ gave him “a beating for three rounds… he beat [him] up in sparring”, but he was quick to point out that “sparring ain’t fighting, and fighting with a head-guard on [for three rounds] isn’t professional boxing”.

Christopher Lovejoy has also claimed he’d decked Tyson Fury. I’m not sure if I believe the appalling American, but sometimes even journeymen get lucky.

We’ve even heard stories of Daniel Dubois claiming he’d decked AJ. And Joshua openly admitted that David Price floored him in sparring.

Personally-speaking, the gym is the place to try new things, to get in shape, to learn, to gain experience from their own mistakes and to occasionally underperform.

I strongly suspect that vast majority of big-name fighters have hit the deck or taken a beating during sparring.

I know that Fury and Joshua have both fondly discussed some of their “bad days at the office” when things didn’t go well for them during sparring. It was as if they were proud and considered it as some sort of badge of honour, a normal part of the day-to-day grind for any elite-level fighter.

So even if some of the sparring rumours circulating the web are indeed true, then so what? They don’t mean anything. People read far too much into what happens behind closed doors at the gym.

[maverick23]

I’d also be surprised though if Whyte was telling the truth re: the knockdowns.

I reckon Tyson Fury is one of those fighters that enjoys sparring, even when he’s out-of-shape, between fights and isn’t anywhere near his best.

He even admitted (twelve years ago) that AJ gave him “a beating for three rounds… he beat [him] up in sparring”, but he was quick to point out that “sparring ain’t fighting, and fighting with a head-guard on [for three rounds] isn’t professional boxing”.

Christopher Lovejoy has also claimed he’d decked Tyson Fury. I’m not sure if I believe the appalling American, but sometimes even journeymen get lucky.

We’ve even heard stories of Daniel Dubois claiming he’d decked AJ. And Joshua openly admitted that David Price floored him in sparring.

Personally-speaking, the gym is the place to try new things, to get in shape, to learn, to gain experience from their own mistakes and to occasionally underperform.

I strongly suspect that vast majority of big-name fighters have hit the deck or taken a beating during sparring.

I know that Fury and Joshua have both fondly discussed some of their “bad days at the office” when things didn’t go well for them during sparring. It was as if they were proud and considered it as some sort of badge of honour, a normal part of the day-to-day grind for any elite-level fighter.

So even if some of the sparring rumours circulating the web are indeed true, then so what? They don’t mean anything. People read far too much into what happens behind closed doors at the gym.

I agree. I think Tyson will spar in whatever shape he’s in. I just don’t think Whyte would have floored him on multiple occasions. Once? Possibly.

[bjornborgbook]

Lying is a sign of weakness.

For all you who just automatically write off all bad sparring experiences as totally meaningless, remember Lennox Lewis owned Golota in sparring, he couldn't handle it when I turned up the heat. Pouha hit so hard Foreman had to send him home. Golota boxed circles around Tua who could not touch him. GGG beat the living shi7 out of Canelo in LA sparring about ten years ago.

If Fury had major problems sparring Whyte or even got beat up a few times, it's very much a factor in this fight because deep down Fury and Whyte both remember.

Fury getting beat up by AJ in sparring would explain why Fury ducked AJ last year and fought Wilder 3 for abou ten times less money. He could have dumped the wbc belt. But that would have meant wilder would have had to fight Whyte for the vacant belt and wilder didn't want that.

[Counter-puncher]

Lying is a sign of weakness.

For all you who just automatically write off all bad sparring experiences as totally meaningless

[Counter-puncher]

Analysis: Whyte has no history of lying and fabricating fraud tales of BS

it's cute, how you just know that. you're 'special'

meanwhile here is Whyte in 2019 saying that Wlad Klitschko is '100%' returning to boxing..



Dillian Whyte says former boxing heavyweight champion Wladimir Klitschko recently lied about his plans not to come back to the sport.

Whyte (25-1,18 KO’s) says the former IBF/IBO/WBA/WBO champion Klitschko (64-5, 53 KO’s) was offered a comeback fight against him, but the 42-year-old turned down the offer as he wants to have two warm-up fights before he returns to the ring.

Whyte, who has now won 20 of his 21 professional fights, sees it as a major compliment that the Ukrainian wants to have a couple of tune-up fights before he returned to face him, and the 30-year-old says the former champion will definitely be making a resurgence to boxing very soon.


“That’s a lie. Klitschko is definitely coming back,” Whyte said to Behind the Gloves, when asked about Wladimir saying that he’s not coming back.


“We offered him the fight, and he said he needed two tune-up fights first before he fights the likes of me, which is a massive compliment, because he’s a former unified world champion.

“He unified for so many years. It’s a massive compliment to me that he didn’t believe he could come back fight with me. He wants a warm-up fight. So he’s definitely coming back. There’s definitely truth to it. He’s 100 percent coming back.”

notice how the one time he actually lies in saying someone else is lying? yeah.

anyway, you're a fkin retard.

[bjornborgbook]

Analysis: Whyte has no history of lying and fabricating fraud tales of BS

it's cute, how you just know that. you're 'special'

meanwhile here is Whyte in 2019 saying that Wlad Klitschko is '100%' returning to boxing..



Dillian Whyte says former boxing heavyweight champion Wladimir Klitschko recently lied about his plans not to come back to the sport.

Whyte (25-1,18 KO’s) says the former IBF/IBO/WBA/WBO champion Klitschko (64-5, 53 KO’s) was offered a comeback fight against him, but the 42-year-old turned down the offer as he wants to have two warm-up fights before he returns to the ring.

Whyte, who has now won 20 of his 21 professional fights, sees it as a major compliment that the Ukrainian wants to have a couple of tune-up fights before he returned to face him, and the 30-year-old says the former champion will definitely be making a resurgence to boxing very soon.


“That’s a lie. Klitschko is definitely coming back,” Whyte said to Behind the Gloves, when asked about Wladimir saying that he’s not coming back.


“We offered him the fight, and he said he needed two tune-up fights first before he fights the likes of me, which is a massive compliment, because he’s a former unified world champion.

“He unified for so many years. It’s a massive compliment to me that he didn’t believe he could come back fight with me. He wants a warm-up fight. So he’s definitely coming back. There’s definitely truth to it. He’s 100 percent coming back.”

notice how the one time he actually lies in saying someone else is lying? yeah.

anyway, you're a fkin retard.

Two times Wladimir showed the public him training seriously in the gym, it looked like he was testing himself to see if he could still do what needs to be done to win big hwt fights. I would guess Wladimir gve it his shot in his comeback training but realized his body couldn't handle it anymore and he abandoned the comeback idea. Yes I believe Whyte was telling the truth.

Wladimir said after the AJ fight, he felt very lucky that his body was able to get through all the hard training for AJ and he was unsure if he could ever be so lucky again.