Jermell Charlo reacts to the idea of fighting Terence Crawford

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Jermell Charlo reacts to the idea of fighting Terence Crawford

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Charlo says Crawford needs to humble himself and make some big fights at 147 before looking up the scale.

Jermell Charlo was on TikTok talking to his fans when he stated talking about the idea of Terence Crawford potentially moving up to 154lbs and whether or not he’d be up for a match like that. Charlo, who is currently set to rematch Brian Castano on March 14, advised Crawford to stay at 147 where he believes he still has unfinished business.

The video below is spliced together, but check out some of what Charlo had to say about Crawford below.



“Crawford — my dog lives in Omaha, I know how Omaha rolls. Ya’ll ain’t never seen no real shit like this shit here. How about he do what’s best and go fight Errol Spence then! Shut up, take a little bit less money, be quiet, humble yourself, and fight Errol Spence — he a stud.

“Be the challenger sometimes. Bob Arum don’t give a damn about him. Bob Arum told him to his face, he done got lawsuits with his own promoter. You ain’t worth shit to me, for real.

“You got Ennis, you got Garcia, you got Thurman, you got people making a name for theyself in your own division. Sit yo ass in your weight division and see if you can beat one of them, ‘cause fuckin’ with me you gonna get knocked the fornicate out! I’m a knockout artist, baby.”

Crawford is currently in an awkward position where he doesn’t have the promotional affiliation to easily land him a fight against some of the biggest welterweight names at the moment, and this has caused him to at least consider potential options the next weight class up. Of course someone like Charlo (who is affiliated with PBC just like Spence) would likely pose of the same challenges with regards to negotiations, but clearly Charlo isn’t all that interested anyway.
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It’s taking a very long time for Crawford to find a new network and promotional partner.

I don’t necessarily agree with the severity in Jermell Charlo’s harsh words, but I do agree that Crawford needs to prove he’s humble enough to reduce his purse size demands, because if he doesn’t, then Bud won’t be able to find any work.

At this point in time, there’s really no point in discussing potential future opponents for Crawford until he’s found a broadcaster and a promoter willing to work with him.
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Enlightened-One wrote: 09 Mar 2022, 08:35 It’s taking a very long time for Crawford to find a new network and promotional partner.

I don’t necessarily agree with the severity in Jermell Charlo’s harsh words, but I do agree that Crawford needs to prove he’s humble enough to reduce his purse size demands, because if he doesn’t, then Bud won’t be able to find any work.

At this point in time, there’s really no point in discussing potential future opponents for Crawford until he’s found a broadcaster and a promoter willing to work with him.
Thurman is pushing for the fight.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 09 Mar 2022, 08:44
Enlightened-One wrote: 09 Mar 2022, 08:35 It’s taking a very long time for Crawford to find a new network and promotional partner.

I don’t necessarily agree with the severity in Jermell Charlo’s harsh words, but I do agree that Crawford needs to prove he’s humble enough to reduce his purse size demands, because if he doesn’t, then Bud won’t be able to find any work.

At this point in time, there’s really no point in discussing potential future opponents for Crawford until he’s found a broadcaster and a promoter willing to work with him.
Thurman is pushing for the fight.
Yeah, and I’m sure that lots of fighters want to face Crawford, but in order for that to happen, somebody needs to find a network and a promoter willing to foot the bill.

Who knows? Perhaps Thurman has enough influence within the PBC to make the fight happen!

I don’t know, but I personally doubt it.

Matchroom and the PBC recently stated they weren’t interested in Crawford.

And I can only assume that Top Rank isn’t willing to work with him either, due to cost, coupled with the fact that Crawford has slandered them and also filed a lawsuit against them.

Perhaps Probellum, Wasserman, MTK etc. can make something happen?

But like I said before, it doesn’t matter if tens of millions of fighters all wanted to fight Terence Crawford, them calling him out is meaningless if there isn’t a network or a promoter willing to fund/cover the bout.
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TC would box the schit out of Charlito but first TC should fight Spence.
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apollo creed wrote: 09 Mar 2022, 13:14 TC would box the schit out of Charlito but first TC should fight Spence.
TC is a big welterweight too let's not forget.

Then you might say Jerm is a big super welterweight.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 09 Mar 2022, 13:43
apollo creed wrote: 09 Mar 2022, 13:14 TC would box the schit out of Charlito but first TC should fight Spence.
TC is a big welterweight too let's not forget.

Then you might say Jerm is a big super welterweight.
:TU: Thats true.
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Still wondering how can be former lightweight be considered big for welterweight. Ok Crawford looked monstrous at 135, but at 147 he seems normaly sized to me
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This is sort of funny. No name Jermell Charlo is saying :"I don't want the fight." instead of doing his best to fight a guy with a 10 times bigger name than he has who would be coming up from a lower division. Guy must really suck.
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H8Usernames wrote: 09 Mar 2022, 17:03 This is sort of funny. No name Jermell Charlo is saying :"I don't want the fight." instead of doing his best to fight a guy with a 10 times bigger name than he has who would be coming up from a lower division. Guy must really suck.
It’s not “funny” if you consider Crawford hasn’t got a promoter or a network, because he’s too expensive, coupled with the fact the PBC, Top Rank and also Matchroom’s recent comments about their reluctance to work with Bud.

If you’re in Jermell Charlo’s shoes, would you be tempted to express a desire to fight Crawford, especially considering the biggest commercial entities in boxing aren’t interested in working with Bud?
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Enlightened-One wrote: 09 Mar 2022, 17:10
H8Usernames wrote: 09 Mar 2022, 17:03 This is sort of funny. No name Jermell Charlo is saying :"I don't want the fight." instead of doing his best to fight a guy with a 10 times bigger name than he has who would be coming up from a lower division. Guy must really suck.
It’s not “funny” if you consider Crawford hasn’t got a promoter or a network, because he’s too expensive, coupled with the fact the PBC, Top Rank and also Matchroom’s recent comments about their reluctance to work with Bud.

If you’re in Jermell Charlo’s shoes, would you be tempted to express a desire to fight Crawford, especially considering the biggest commercial entities in boxing aren’t interested in working with Bud?
Jermell Charlo has zero name recognition. That's the sort if fighter one would expect to be trying to make a name for himself. Apparently Charlo isn't interested in doing such things.
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Cent0089 wrote: 09 Mar 2022, 16:09 Still wondering how can be former lightweight be considered big for welterweight. Ok Crawford looked monstrous at 135, but at 147 he seems normaly sized to me
Oscar De La Hoya was once a big welterweight that fought at lightweight.
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From the topic title, I thought of this -
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craw needs to hook up with pbc, ko someone like danny garcia or something, then he'd prob have a much better shot of getting a spence or a charlo
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H8Usernames wrote: 09 Mar 2022, 17:16
Enlightened-One wrote: 09 Mar 2022, 17:10
H8Usernames wrote: 09 Mar 2022, 17:03 This is sort of funny. No name Jermell Charlo is saying :"I don't want the fight." instead of doing his best to fight a guy with a 10 times bigger name than he has who would be coming up from a lower division. Guy must really suck.
It’s not “funny” if you consider Crawford hasn’t got a promoter or a network, because he’s too expensive, coupled with the fact the PBC, Top Rank and also Matchroom’s recent comments about their reluctance to work with Bud.

If you’re in Jermell Charlo’s shoes, would you be tempted to express a desire to fight Crawford, especially considering the biggest commercial entities in boxing aren’t interested in working with Bud?
Jermell Charlo has zero name recognition. That's the sort if fighter one would expect to be trying to make a name for himself. Apparently Charlo isn't interested in doing such things.
But are you oblivious to Crawford’s situation?

It doesn’t matter what you think about Jermell Charlo, because the real problem lies with Crawford.

And I’m not being derogatory when I say that either, because who is going to foot the bill for future Crawford bouts, if the likes of the PBC, Matchroom and Top Rank won’t do it?

Why would anybody want to fight Crawford if they’re not going to get paid?

If Crawford can’t get any fights, are you going to blame all the other fighters on the planet, even resorting to accusations of cowardice, or will you concede Bud’s business situation?
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EO's been a Crawford hater for a ling time, and if you've noticed, is rarely critical of either Charlo.

That said, nothing wrong with a Mell vs Crawford fight, assuming Mell wins, which is 50-50. Regardless of promoters, big fights will be financed.

This whole discussion may be pointless if Mell loses.
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Bandog wrote: 09 Mar 2022, 19:00EO's been a Crawford hater for a ling time, and if you've noticed, is rarely critical of either Charlo.
Do I exist in an alternate universe whereby my version of Terence Crawford is a free agent that can’t get work with any promoter or network?

For sure, Bud is bound to eventually find a boxing home at some point (assuming he’s willing to compromise), but all the main players have recently claimed they’re not interested in him.

So does this mean that I deserve to be accused of being a “hater” simply because I’m accurately describing reality?

Come on Bandog, please tell me I’m 100% wrong and that dozens of promoters and networks are banging at Crawford’s door extremely eager to get him to sign their contracts?

Please tell me that’s what you genuinely believe is happening at this point in time!!!

Anyway, back to the topic at hand, no fighter will agree to face Crawford if they’re not getting paid... and who's going to pay them if no one is willing to fund Bud's bouts? :brick:
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it's so obvioius that he should sign with pbc. they have tons of good options for him, including the biggest fights that he could get at 147-154. spence, charlo, ugas, thurman, garcia, castano, and it goes on

not sure what his deal is. does he have some dislike to pbc since he's had a lot of rivalry with pbc fighters or something?
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Enlightened-One wrote: 09 Mar 2022, 18:25
H8Usernames wrote: 09 Mar 2022, 17:16
Enlightened-One wrote: 09 Mar 2022, 17:10
It’s not “funny” if you consider Crawford hasn’t got a promoter or a network, because he’s too expensive, coupled with the fact the PBC, Top Rank and also Matchroom’s recent comments about their reluctance to work with Bud.

If you’re in Jermell Charlo’s shoes, would you be tempted to express a desire to fight Crawford, especially considering the biggest commercial entities in boxing aren’t interested in working with Bud?
Jermell Charlo has zero name recognition. That's the sort if fighter one would expect to be trying to make a name for himself. Apparently Charlo isn't interested in doing such things.
But are you oblivious to Crawford’s situation?

It doesn’t matter what you think about Jermell Charlo, because the real problem lies with Crawford.

And I’m not being derogatory when I say that either, because who is going to foot the bill for future Crawford bouts, if the likes of the PBC, Matchroom and Top Rank won’t do it?

Why would anybody want to fight Crawford if they’re not going to get paid?

If Crawford can’t get any fights, are you going to blame all the other fighters on the planet, even resorting to accusations of cowardice, or will you concede Bud’s business situation?
So boxing is a very simple sport. The proposition isn't that Crawford become Charlos bride or groom and that they live happily ever after or anything like that. The proposition is that Crawford become Charlos opponent and if Charlo beats Crawford then he never has to worry about him ever again after that so any problems that Craw has with networks or promoters etc after that should not bother Charlo.

Negotiations for this fight have not started, Craw and Porter were both able to take home 5m+ purses for this fight. Isn't it premature to say that there is no money available for this fight?

Strange arguments.
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H8Usernames wrote: 09 Mar 2022, 20:22
Enlightened-One wrote: 09 Mar 2022, 18:25
H8Usernames wrote: 09 Mar 2022, 17:16

Jermell Charlo has zero name recognition. That's the sort if fighter one would expect to be trying to make a name for himself. Apparently Charlo isn't interested in doing such things.
But are you oblivious to Crawford’s situation?

It doesn’t matter what you think about Jermell Charlo, because the real problem lies with Crawford.

And I’m not being derogatory when I say that either, because who is going to foot the bill for future Crawford bouts, if the likes of the PBC, Matchroom and Top Rank won’t do it?

Why would anybody want to fight Crawford if they’re not going to get paid?

If Crawford can’t get any fights, are you going to blame all the other fighters on the planet, even resorting to accusations of cowardice, or will you concede Bud’s business situation?
So boxing is a very simple sport. The proposition isn't that Crawford become Charlos bride or groom and that they live happily ever after or anything like that. The proposition is that Crawford become Charlos opponent and if Charlo beats Crawford then he never has to worry about him ever again after that so any problems that Craw has with networks or promoters etc after that should not bother Charlo.

Negotiations for this fight have not started, Craw and Porter were both able to take home 5m+ purses for this fight. Isn't it premature to say that there is no money available for this fight?

Strange arguments.
I’ll ask you the same question again… who is going to foot the bill for future Crawford bouts?

There’s no point in discussing historical events related to Crawford’s tenure with Top Rank, because that ship has sailed, because they aren’t working with each other anymore.

Just answer the question and stop talking about “bride” and “groom” nonsense, which isn’t even remotely analogous with Crawford’s current situation.

You’re behaving like someone that can’t even answer one simple question!!!
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Enlightened-One wrote: 09 Mar 2022, 20:45
H8Usernames wrote: 09 Mar 2022, 20:22
Enlightened-One wrote: 09 Mar 2022, 18:25
But are you oblivious to Crawford’s situation?

It doesn’t matter what you think about Jermell Charlo, because the real problem lies with Crawford.

And I’m not being derogatory when I say that either, because who is going to foot the bill for future Crawford bouts, if the likes of the PBC, Matchroom and Top Rank won’t do it?

Why would anybody want to fight Crawford if they’re not going to get paid?

If Crawford can’t get any fights, are you going to blame all the other fighters on the planet, even resorting to accusations of cowardice, or will you concede Bud’s business situation?
So boxing is a very simple sport. The proposition isn't that Crawford become Charlos bride or groom and that they live happily ever after or anything like that. The proposition is that Crawford become Charlos opponent and if Charlo beats Crawford then he never has to worry about him ever again after that so any problems that Craw has with networks or promoters etc after that should not bother Charlo.

Negotiations for this fight have not started, Craw and Porter were both able to take home 5m+ purses for this fight. Isn't it premature to say that there is no money available for this fight?

Strange arguments.
I’ll ask you the same question again… who is going to foot the bill for future Crawford bouts?

There’s no point in discussing historical events related to Crawford’s tenure with Top Rank, because that ship has sailed, because they aren’t working with each other anymore.

Just answer the question and stop talking about “bride” and “groom” nonsense, which isn’t even remotely analogous with Crawford’s current situation.
This isn't about distant future type of things.

This is about 1 bout. Charlo vs Crawford. Charlo has a promoter. It is a very common practice for promoters to buy opponents for their fighters to stage bouts.
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H8Usernames wrote: 09 Mar 2022, 20:48
Enlightened-One wrote: 09 Mar 2022, 20:45
H8Usernames wrote: 09 Mar 2022, 20:22

So boxing is a very simple sport. The proposition isn't that Crawford become Charlos bride or groom and that they live happily ever after or anything like that. The proposition is that Crawford become Charlos opponent and if Charlo beats Crawford then he never has to worry about him ever again after that so any problems that Craw has with networks or promoters etc after that should not bother Charlo.

Negotiations for this fight have not started, Craw and Porter were both able to take home 5m+ purses for this fight. Isn't it premature to say that there is no money available for this fight?

Strange arguments.
I’ll ask you the same question again… who is going to foot the bill for future Crawford bouts?

There’s no point in discussing historical events related to Crawford’s tenure with Top Rank, because that ship has sailed, because they aren’t working with each other anymore.

Just answer the question and stop talking about “bride” and “groom” nonsense, which isn’t even remotely analogous with Crawford’s current situation.
This isn't about distant future type of things.

This is about 1 bout. Charlo vs Crawford. Charlo has a promoter. It is a very common practice for promoters to buy opponents for their fighters to stage bouts.
I'll ask you the same question for the third time... who is going to foot the bill for future Crawford bouts?

And if you can't answer it, because it's clear you can't, hence your vague responses, then simply say so!!!

Because you know what? Almost the entire boxing industry can't answer that one simple question!

And I can't either, because the sports' biggest players (including the PBC) have all recently stated they're not interested in working with Crawford!!!

Surely you realise that Jermell Charlo is a PBC fighter, right? :lol:
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Enlightened-One wrote: 09 Mar 2022, 20:52
H8Usernames wrote: 09 Mar 2022, 20:48
Enlightened-One wrote: 09 Mar 2022, 20:45
I’ll ask you the same question again… who is going to foot the bill for future Crawford bouts?

There’s no point in discussing historical events related to Crawford’s tenure with Top Rank, because that ship has sailed, because they aren’t working with each other anymore.

Just answer the question and stop talking about “bride” and “groom” nonsense, which isn’t even remotely analogous with Crawford’s current situation.
This isn't about distant future type of things.

This is about 1 bout. Charlo vs Crawford. Charlo has a promoter. It is a very common practice for promoters to buy opponents for their fighters to stage bouts.
I'll ask you the same question for the third time... who is going to foot the bill for future Crawford bouts?

And if you can't answer it, because it's clear you can't, hence your vague responses, then simply say so!!!

Because you know what? Almost the entire boxing industry can't answer that one simple question!

And I can't either, because the sports' biggest players (including the PBC) have all recently stated they're not interested in working with Crawford!!!

Surely you realise that Jermell Charlo is a PBC fighter, right? :lol:
If the pbc don't have any faith in their man beating Crawford then it becomes understandable why they wouldn't purchase Crawford’s services to bolster Charlos record and reputation.

If Crawford is however someone who their man can beat and add brightness to his star by doing so then they'll gladly pay the bill for it if it's a reasonable one.

Boxing takes place one fight at a time.
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H8Usernames wrote: 09 Mar 2022, 20:58
Enlightened-One wrote: 09 Mar 2022, 20:52
H8Usernames wrote: 09 Mar 2022, 20:48

This isn't about distant future type of things.

This is about 1 bout. Charlo vs Crawford. Charlo has a promoter. It is a very common practice for promoters to buy opponents for their fighters to stage bouts.
I'll ask you the same question for the third time... who is going to foot the bill for future Crawford bouts?

And if you can't answer it, because it's clear you can't, hence your vague responses, then simply say so!!!

Because you know what? Almost the entire boxing industry can't answer that one simple question!

And I can't either, because the sports' biggest players (including the PBC) have all recently stated they're not interested in working with Crawford!!!

Surely you realise that Jermell Charlo is a PBC fighter, right? :lol:
If the pbc don't have any faith in their man beating Crawford then it becomes understandable why they wouldn't purchase Crawford’s services to bolster Charlos record and reputation.

If Crawford is however someone who their man can beat and add brightness to his star by doing so then they'll gladly pay the bill for it if it's a reasonable one.

Boxing takes place one fight at a time.
The PBC, Top Rank and Matchroom won't be working with Terence Crawford in the near future (they recently stated this before Charlo's comments about Crawford).

So I have to assume, based on your response, that you'll sincerely believe that all the fighters aligned with all three of those business entities of cowardice, simply because they’re not considering any future bouts against Terence Crawford? :yay:

And you can’t even name one promoter or network that’s attempting to sign Crawford. :brick:
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I'm sure if a big fight comes up, Crawford will be offered a one fight deal with a top promotional company. Hearn already said he'd sign him, but Crawford may not get the purses he wants. PBC has by far the biggest 147 stable, and they could do a one fight deal too.
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