Vergil Ortiz Jr. vs. Michael McKinson | DAZN - 6 August 2022

Who wins?

Poll ended at 06 Jul 2022, 16:46

Ortiz - Decision
1
3%
Ortiz - T/KO
26
76%
DRAW
2
6%
McKinson - T/KO
1
3%
McKinson - Decision
4
12%
 
Total votes: 34

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Re: Vergil Ortiz Jr. vs. Michael McKinson | DAZN - 19 March 2022 (OFF)

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margaret thatcher wrote: 15 Mar 2022, 21:47 read somewhere that micky will fight juan carlos salgado, who hasnt fought since ortiz stopped him 4 years ago
:doh: let's hope that's a rumour.
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Re: Vergil Ortiz Jr. vs. Michael McKinson | DAZN - 19 March 2022 (OFF)

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Cobbs has offered to step in.
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Re: Vergil Ortiz Jr. vs. Michael McKinson | DAZN - 19 March 2022 (OFF)

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Salgado is listed on boxrec as fighting mckinson.

lost 8 of his last 9... been inactive for 4 years... was a super-featherweight in his prime.

Not great, but im glad mckinsons got a fight. might be a chance to get his first head shot stoppage... 1 body shot KO, and 1 injury retirement is crazy for someone moving towards world levle.
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Re: Vergil Ortiz Jr. vs. Michael McKinson | DAZN - 19 March 2022 (OFF)

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gregregegg wrote: 16 Mar 2022, 05:33 Salgado is listed on boxrec as fighting mckinson.

lost 8 of his last 9... been inactive for 4 years... was a super-featherweight in his prime.

Not great, but im glad mckinsons got a fight. might be a chance to get his first head shot stoppage... 1 body shot KO, and 1 injury retirement is crazy for someone moving towards world levle.
I just hope he still gets paid well for it. Apparently it was house money for him so it’d be a real shame if he ends up getting just a nominal amount for it.

Surely they can find someone better than Salgado though?
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maverick23 wrote: 16 Mar 2022, 05:42
gregregegg wrote: 16 Mar 2022, 05:33 Salgado is listed on boxrec as fighting mckinson.

lost 8 of his last 9... been inactive for 4 years... was a super-featherweight in his prime.

Not great, but im glad mckinsons got a fight. might be a chance to get his first head shot stoppage... 1 body shot KO, and 1 injury retirement is crazy for someone moving towards world levle.
I just hope he still gets paid well for it. Apparently it was house money for him so it’d be a real shame if he ends up getting just a nominal amount for it.

Surely they can find someone better than Salgado though?
I just hope he gets it again in the summer. he has put 4 months in training for ortiz. when your a crafty guy thats so much specific work to put into someone. Problem is i just dont see much demand for it...

Would really like him to get an absolute highlight reel KO this fight too. Be a nice little treat for a USA debut and if this opponent has been on the couch the last 4 years its possible....
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Re: Vergil Ortiz Jr. vs. Michael McKinson | DAZN - 19 March 2022 (OFF)

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McKinson didn’t offer any name value for Ortiz.

But being a crafty southpaw. It was all about gaining that experience.
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Re: Vergil Ortiz Jr. vs. Michael McKinson | DAZN - 19 March 2022 (OFF)

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Surely cannot be Salgado? I know it’s less than a week to go but surely there’s better.
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Re: Vergil Ortiz Jr. vs. Michael McKinson | DAZN - 19 March 2022 (OFF)

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Dioufy wrote: 16 Mar 2022, 08:14 Surely cannot be Salgado? I know it’s less than a week to go but surely there’s better.
Yeah looks like he's under review with the California Athletic Commission.

Reckon they'll pass him tbh.

Mckinson team rejected Cobb because hes a southpaw and they have been preparing for an orthodox.
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 16 Mar 2022, 03:57 Cobbs has offered to step in.
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Re: Vergil Ortiz Jr. vs. Michael McKinson | DAZN - 19 March 2022 (OFF)

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new opponent is ricky perez apparently

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/754288
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margaret thatcher wrote: 16 Mar 2022, 14:41 new opponent is ricky perez apparently

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/754288
Meh. At least he’ll still be fighting hopefully.
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Re: Vergil Ortiz Jr. vs. Michael McKinson | DAZN - 19 March 2022 (OFF)

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maverick23 wrote: 16 Mar 2022, 14:48
margaret thatcher wrote: 16 Mar 2022, 14:41 new opponent is ricky perez apparently

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/754288
Meh. At least he’ll still be fighting hopefully.
Well, as this thread has shown, it could have been worse :lol:
Perez seems durable enough to give him rounds hopefully.
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Re: Vergil Ortiz Jr. vs. Michael McKinson | DAZN - 19 March 2022 (OFF)

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perez does seem durable, though i dont know that durability is required to give mick rounds :lol:
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margaret thatcher wrote: 16 Mar 2022, 15:22 perez does seem durable, though i dont know that durability is required to give mick rounds :lol:
:lol: Mick "pillows" McKinson?
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New opponent is better mabey... its a Heappppps inflated record, he has only actual beat one person with a winning record, and that was a Majority decison.
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gregregegg wrote: 16 Mar 2022, 17:23 New opponent is better mabey... its a Heappppps inflated record, he has only actual beat one person with a winning record, and that was a Majority decison.
Considering virtually no one gave pillows McKinson a chance at Ortiz Jr, it has to be a better fight doesn't it?
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Re: Vergil Ortiz Jr. vs. Michael McKinson | DAZN - 19 March 2022 (OFF)

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Demoted..

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Re: Vergil Ortiz Jr. vs. Michael McKinson | DAZN - 19 March 2022 (OFF)

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KiwiRider wrote: 16 Mar 2022, 17:29
gregregegg wrote: 16 Mar 2022, 17:23 New opponent is better mabey... its a Heappppps inflated record, he has only actual beat one person with a winning record, and that was a Majority decison.
Considering virtually no one gave pillows McKinson a chance at Ortiz Jr, it has to be a better fight doesn't it?
Disagree, I liked him vs Ortiz. If I were to guess how it were to go id guess Ortiz blasts though him, but mckins is very weird, definately could of made a fight out of it.

So hard for mckins to get an opportunity again, who's signing up for it.
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Re: Vergil Ortiz Jr. vs. Michael McKinson | DAZN - 19 March 2022 (OFF)

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gregregegg wrote: 16 Mar 2022, 19:02
KiwiRider wrote: 16 Mar 2022, 17:29
gregregegg wrote: 16 Mar 2022, 17:23 New opponent is better mabey... its a Heappppps inflated record, he has only actual beat one person with a winning record, and that was a Majority decison.
Considering virtually no one gave pillows McKinson a chance at Ortiz Jr, it has to be a better fight doesn't it?
Disagree, I liked him vs Ortiz. If I were to guess how it were to go id guess Ortiz blasts though him, but mckins is very weird, definately could of made a fight out of it.

So hard for mckins to get an opportunity again, who's signing up for it.
Fair enough :salut:
I was siding with the hugely favorable poll result of Ortiz Jr by KO.
I've only seen McKinson twice, and while he definitely has some skills, something I do appreciate - there isn't much there that I feel would have deterred Ortiz Jr from taking a few to land his own, pretty much like he did with Hooker. :maybe:
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Re: Vergil Ortiz Jr. vs. Michael McKinson | DAZN - 19 March 2022 (OFF)

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As stated earlier this new opponent should give him rounds but not much more. Wide margin loser pretty much every time he got in the ring with a half decent opponent.
At least McKinson gets to keep his 0 a bit longer.
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Re: Vergil Ortiz Jr. vs. Michael McKinson | DAZN - 19 March 2022 (OFF)

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Michael McKinson To Now Face Alex Martin On DAZN; Jesus A. Perez (Weight) Falls Through

Michael McKinson is now on his third opponent for his first career fight in the U.S.

BS.com has learned that Alex Martin is now poised to face England’s McKinson, the switch coming shortly after previously approved Jesus Antonio Perez Campos (24-3, 18KOs) was too far beyond the welterweight limit to safely make weight on Friday. The bout is dependent on Chicago’s Martin (17-3, 6KOs) being able to make the contracted limit on short notice for this Saturday’s DAZN show from USC’s Galen Center in Los Angeles.

Tijuana’s Perez was cleared by the California State Athletic Commission (CSAC) on Wednesday and accepted by McKinson (21-0, 2KOs) and his team before learning of the weight disparity.

“My opponent turned up from Mexico 2 stone [roughly 28 pounds] overweight,” McKinson revealed to his social media followers late Thursday evening. “Opponent change AGAIN!”

Perez (24-3, 18KOs) had not fought in more than two years and was not scheduled to fight at the time he received the call to face McKinson on just three days’ notice. The 27-year-old Tijuana native agreed to replace rising welterweight contender Vergil Ortiz Jr. (18-0, 18KOs), who was pulled from the show after being hospitalized and treated for rhabdomyolysis earlier this week.

It appears that more work needs to be done, though it remains unclear why Perez would agree to terms while knowing he was close to 30 pounds above the welterweight limit.

Representatives from Golden Boy Promotions did not return a message from BS.com seeking comment as this goes to publish. A representative from McKinson’s team confirmed the fallout but declined further comment as the situation is understandably fluid.

Martin called for the fight earlier this week, going as far to suggest that he was being ducked by McKinson and his team after they settled on the orthodox-stanced Perez. The Chicagoland southpaw gets his wish as his number was called to help salvage a show with several moving parts.

The 32-year-old Martin is riding a four-fight win streak, all coming at junior welterweight. In his most recent start, Martin scored a ten-round shutout win over Josec Ruiz last August 14 in Frisco, Texas. Each of Martin’s two wins in 2021 came on the undercard of Dallas area shows headlined by Ortiz.

Martin’s last defeat came in December 2017, suffering a third straight points loss on the year and all at welterweight. Martin dropped an eight-round decision to Bryant Perrella, coming on the heels of back-to-back defeats to then-unbeaten Miguel Cruz earlier in the year.

McKinson previously hinted that he could potentially face “a [G]olden Boy fighter who’s a southpaw,” though the evening’s makeshift main event participants were ruled out.

Alexis Rocha (18-1, 12KOs) and Blair Cobbs (15-0-1, 10KOs)—both of whom are southpaws—are still due to face each other in Saturday’s DAZN headliner from USC’s Galen Center in Los Angeles. The fight was advanced from co-feature on Wednesday, once Vergil Ortiz Jr. (18-0, 18KOs) was pulled from his scheduled 12-round main event with McKinson after being hospitalized for rhabdomyolysis.

Cobbs allegedly offered his services at the time and his team also insisted that he was rejected by McKinson’s side. McKinson and representatives from his management company MTK Global all refuted such claims and vowed a willingness to face any name offered for the sake of fighting this weekend and not allowing a training camp to go to waste. The 27-year-old British southpaw from Portsmouth stayed true to his word in accepting Martin on short notice.

“Such an up and down week but we have [come] to fight, whoever, regardless,” noted McKinson. “Time to adapt to the situations and overcome.”
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Re: Vergil Ortiz Jr. vs. Michael McKinson | DAZN - 19 March 2022 (OFF)

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Fuk this seems like a bit of a nightmare for Mckinson.

prepare for an orthodox fighter who is amazing.he pulls out you think you wont get a replacement, get an easy replacement, he pulls out and now get a long southpaw who seems to be at least semi decent, has been active, and won his last 20 rounds strait.
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Re: Vergil Ortiz Jr. vs. Michael McKinson | DAZN - 19 March 2022 (OFF)

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Damn never seen Martin but Mckinson could actually lose this - Martin doesn't seem half bad going off his record.
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Re: Vergil Ortiz Jr. vs. Michael McKinson | DAZN - 19 March 2022 (OFF)

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He’s a lightweight so I’m guessing he will be able to make welter.
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Re: Vergil Ortiz Jr. vs. Michael McKinson | DAZN - 19 March 2022 (OFF)

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Dioufy wrote: 18 Mar 2022, 11:08 He’s a lightweight so I’m guessing he will be able to make welter.
He’s never made lightweight from what I can tell. Fought mostly at welter and light-welter in his last few fights.
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