Hospitalized, wheelchair-bound Adrien Broner promises “I’ll get through it!”

[Counter-puncher]

I get tired of hearing 'what a waste of talent he was'. 'If he'd only take boxing seriously he could be great'. The truth is he wasn't that good to begin with and at 32 he's a washed up has-been.

He's not an example of wasted talent, he's an example of an overrated media hype job.

Broner's resume for the first 5½ years of his career (before his 24th birthday) was truly impressive, his critics only seem to recall what's transpired since 2015, when his in-ring talents were declining.

Adrien Broner was once classed amongst the top-six of The RING's pound-for-pound ratings, he's engaged in ten world championship bouts, faced ten world champions and also captured world titles in four weight divisions.

Even if you severely dislike the guy, and I’m not his biggest fan either, it’s impossible to deny that he was once considered one of the best fighters on the planet.

Like him or loathe him, there’s not a lot of fighters competing today with Broner’s resume.

He was once wrongly considered one of the best fighters in the world. The rest of it was just his network trying to make a new Floyd out of rags and scraps.

I cant even bother checking his record to remind myself who his ‘best’ win was over those 4 weights he apparently won at. Ooh didn’t he beat Gavin Rees? I can’t remember another win, total blank.

Who knows maybe there was a really good win in there that I missed. As far as I was concerned he lost the moment he faced someone any good and not undersized by a weight class. Then carried on losing

You know that discussion you had about padded records? Well if he truly had world titles at 4 weights, that right there is some padding.

[margaret thatcher]

actually looking at who he fought:

broner top wins

paulie
demarco
ponce de leon (although highly controversial)
john molina
gavin rees
khabib allakerdiev

notable other results

pacquiao loss
garcia loss
maidana loss
porter loss
vargas draw

[Counter-puncher]

actually looking at who he fought:

broner top wins

paulie
demarco
ponce de leon
john molina
gavin rees
khabib allakerdiev

Indeed.

[Enlightened-One]

I get tired of hearing 'what a waste of talent he was'. 'If he'd only take boxing seriously he could be great'. The truth is he wasn't that good to begin with and at 32 he's a washed up has-been.

He's not an example of wasted talent, he's an example of an overrated media hype job.

Broner's resume for the first 5½ years of his career (before his 24th birthday) was truly impressive, his critics only seem to recall what's transpired since 2015, when his in-ring talents were declining.

Adrien Broner was once classed amongst the top-six of The RING's pound-for-pound ratings, he's engaged in ten world championship bouts, faced ten world champions and also captured world titles in four weight divisions.

Even if you severely dislike the guy, and I’m not his biggest fan either, it’s impossible to deny that he was once considered one of the best fighters on the planet.

Like him or loathe him, there’s not a lot of fighters competing today with Broner’s resume.

He was once wrongly considered one of the best fighters in the world. The rest of it was just his network trying to make a new Floyd out of rags and scraps.

If Adrien Broner was truly rubbish, then most fighters would have his resume and the names listed in the top-ten pound-for-pound ratings would constantly change, but for some strange reason this isn’t the case.

All fighters with a decent network behind them would be able to achieve similar success levels to Broner it was easy.

Anyway, I’m no Broner fan, but I’m not going to pretend he was much worse than he actually was, just because I dislike him.

He was a good fighter until he became insanely wealthy by the time he was 23 years of age, but then he quickly declined when he went off the rails.

The same thing happened to Mike Tyson also, but to admittedly lesser extent.

[Counter-puncher]

Remind me his best win, mate?

You’ve been in boxing long enough to know the belts only worth who you won it from.

You say few boxers can match his resume, I strongly disagree. I guess you maybe bought into the network hype with him a little. After all, his best wins are? Demarco maybe? Hmmm. And there’s a drop off after him.

That dude Indongo got smashed by Crawford. He has one career win- Ricky Burns a man with several world title defences- that is better than any of Broner’s. And He Indongo basically sucks too but man at least he beat a decent fighter once.

[margaret thatcher]

he started his career looking really good and he's got a solid list of wins, but its hardly anything special. you'll notice that the people who big up him being a 4 weight champ will pretty much never actually mention who he beat to win those titles (2 of which were vacant)

lost by ud to every a-level fighter he faced as well, widely considered very lucky to have gotten the win over ponce, could've easily lost several other fights too, for total context

once he got to 140 and above he just could not bully guys or do damage nearly as well as he used to, and he paid more for his stinky work rate. from that point on nearly every opponent gave him problems

[thereverend]

Even if you severely dislike the guy, and I’m not his biggest fan either, it’s impossible to deny that he was once considered one of the best fighters on the planet.

This is exactly what I'm talking about when I say the guy's overrated. That's not saying he wasn't a good fighter. He was tough to beat and earned a welterweight world title. No way he was one of the best fighters on the planet the year he won the belt, 2013. He beat Malinaggi, a good but not elite fighter who was feather fisted. One thing all his best opponents had in common, they were all feather fisted. De Leon, DeMarco, Rees, etc. are all solid fighters who were smaller then him and lacked power.

You see this when a promoter is trying to create a hype job, protecting a fighter from his weaknesses. Broner has always beat these type of fighters but as soon as he steps up to face an elite fighter he's dominated. When Broner has a height and weight advantage and a power advantage he wins. That doesn't make him a bad fighter, you can say that about most fighters, but it doesn't make him world class.

[Thomastearns]

Even if you severely dislike the guy, and I’m not his biggest fan either, it’s impossible to deny that he was once considered one of the best fighters on the planet.

This is exactly what I'm talking about when I say the guy's overrated. That's not saying he wasn't a good fighter. He was tough to beat and earned a welterweight world title. No way he was one of the best fighters on the planet the year he won the belt, 2013. He beat Malinaggi, a good but not elite fighter who was feather fisted. One thing all his best opponents had in common, they were all feather fisted. De Leon, DeMarco, Rees, etc. are all solid fighters who were smaller then him and lacked power.

You see this when a promoter is trying to create a hype job, protecting a fighter from his weaknesses. Broner has always beat these type of fighters but as soon as he steps up to face an elite fighter he's dominated. When Broner has a height and weight advantage and a power advantage he wins. That doesn't make him a bad fighter, you can say that about most fighters, but it doesn't make him world class.

That's a good summing of the modern boxing business.

Broner certainly looks as if he's gone as far as he possibly could.

Thankfully, there's still plenty of fighters brave enough (or foolhardy enough?) to risk everything and take on anyone.

For example, Usyk, GGG, Lomachenko, Gonzalez, Inoue, Khan, Brook etc.

These guys are for real.

[Counter-puncher]

he started his career looking really good and he's got a solid list of wins, but its hardly anything special. you'll notice that the people who big up him being a 4 weight champ will pretty much never actually mention who he beat to win those titles (2 of which were vacant)

lost by ud to every a-level fighter he faced as well, widely considered very lucky to have gotten the win over ponce, could've easily lost several other fights too, for total context

once he got to 140 and above he just could not bully guys or do damage nearly as well as he used to, and he paid more for his stinky work rate. from that point on nearly every opponent gave him problems

Nicely put

[Bandog]

Broner could do a "Samford and Son" fake heart attack and no one would take him serious, or care. (sadly)

[Enlightened-One]

Remind me his best win, mate?

You’ve been in boxing long enough to know the belts only worth who you won it from.

You say few boxers can match his resume, I strongly disagree. I guess you maybe bought into the network hype with him a little. After all, his best wins are? Demarco maybe? Hmmm. And there’s a drop off after him.

That dude Indongo got smashed by Crawford. He has one career win- Ricky Burns a man with several world title defences- that is better than any of Broner’s. And He Indongo basically sucks too but man at least he beat a decent fighter once.

If you read through the claims I’ve commented on in this thread, you’ll see I’ve simply responded to people claiming that Broner “wasn't that good to begin with” and that he was “an example of an overrated media hype job.”

For sure, he’s not an all-time-great, but “rubbish” fighters don’t achieve what Broner did during the first 5½ years of their careers (before their 24th birthday).

In terms of answering your question though, it’s a difficult one to answer, because people’s opinions vary, but in my mind, Antonio DeMarco is Adrien Broner’s best win.

‘The Problem’ was only 23 years of age for that fight, with Antonio being the WBC world lightweight champion that was in good form, having scored recent impressive victories over Jorge Linares and John Molina Jr.

How many 23-year-olds competing today can you name that are unbeaten, hold victories over four world champions, captured titles in three weight divisions, engaged in six world championship bouts and are also classed amongst the top-six pound-for-pound list?

If 'The Problem' really was “rubbish”, then most professionals with a decent network behind them would easily be capable of replicating Broner’s feats within the first 5½ years of their careers, but they don’t, do they?

And like I said before, just because you dislike a particular fighter (and let’s face it, Broner is not a likable guy), it doesn’t mean they were always “rubbish”.

[Counter-puncher]

For sure, he’s not an all-time-great, but “rubbish” fighters don’t achieve what Broner did during the first 5½ years of their careers (before their 24th birthday).

i disagree

a rubbish fighter could very easily have beaten Paulie Malinaggi when Broner beat him

anyone who struggles to a close disputed win over an undersized Ponce De Leon, is at best average.


“rubbish” fighters don’t achieve what Broner did during the first 5½ years of their careers


define the scale and scope of these 'achievements'; tell me which one of them in particular , if any, you find impressive, and why.

It's all very well saying he has achievements, but if you mean:

winning a vacant belt against Allakhverdiev- a man who never had a good win and never boxed again after that fight

or:

winning a vacant belt against Carlos Molina- a man who never had a good win, and who after Broner had a single draw with fistic luminary Mercito Gesta before retiring

or:

winning a vacant belt against fistic luminary Vicente Martin Rodriguez- a man with literally no good wins on his record, before or after the Broner fight- are you recognising the pattern ,here, bro?


you say he has achievements

you say he won world titles at 4 weights

I say those achievements are pitiful and can largely be discounted; because as with the fighters I listed for you above, those he beat were has-beens or never-was men, and the good fighters he fought, all beat him

so what's his big achievement, fella?

winning those belts against the fighters mention above?

well, to Adrian Broner. you beat Carlos Molina. for a vacant belt. one fight after Khan beat him. and one fight before he retired.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Adrien Broner urged to make boxing comeback after photo in better shape

Boxing fans commented on how good Broner looked in an image pictured alongside his latest female companion.

The outing comes not long after Broner posted a personal message from a woman claiming she could be pregnant with his child.

Broner’s response was brutal.

“I see something in you that you probably don’t see in yourself.

“I know you will make a great single mother. And that’s why I did what I did. You got this!”

His accompanying phrase was, “Sometimes you just got to go with your gut.”

[Counter-puncher]

I'd do his bird, to be fair to her

[Ruthless-RKO]

I'd do his bird, to be fair to her

You'd have to be gay and/or impotent to not do her..

[Enlightened-One]

I'd do his bird, to be fair to her

You'd have to be gay and/or impotent to not do her..

Adrien Broner has always done well with the ladies.

I don’t think I’ve ever seen him photographed with a dodgy kangorillapig look-a-like.

[Ruthless-RKO]

I'd do his bird, to be fair to her

You'd have to be gay and/or impotent to not do her..

Adrien Broner has always done well with the ladies.

I don’t think I’ve ever seen him photographed with a dodgy kangorillapig look-a-like.

Yeh. Makes me question the ladies.

If this one is pregnant, then what is this.. His 9th child with 9 different women?

[Counter-puncher]

I'd do his bird, to be fair to her

You'd have to be gay and/or impotent to not do her..

Adrien Broner has always done well with the ladies.

I don’t think I’ve ever seen him photographed with a dodgy kangorillapig look-a-like.

i don't recall any other ones

with this one, I have to say, once you go (in descending order) 'Ass > Face > taste& personality (I'm like, inferring she may have some issues in those last departments)', there's a decent drop-off after 'ass' and a major one after 'face', but never mind, he's punching at least around his weightclass.

[KiwiRider]

You'd have to be gay and/or impotent to not do her..

Adrien Broner has always done well with the ladies.

I don’t think I’ve ever seen him photographed with a dodgy kangorillapig look-a-like.

Yeh. Makes me question the ladies.

If this one is pregnant, then what is this.. His 9th child with 9 different women?

Eighth with his seventh baby momma.

[conan_the_cribber]

Broner getting dry-humped by Maidana during their fight is one of the top five non-KO moments of boxing.

[Jeff_lacy_ko]

Broner getting dry-humped by Maidana during their fight is one of the top five non-KO moments of boxing.

Thank you for making my day

[margaret thatcher]

even the judge lol'd

[Ruthless-RKO]

even the judge lol'd

It’s definitely a memorable fight for many reasons.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Back in training

[Enlightened-One]

Adrien Broner should just remain retired from boxing and start competing in novelty celebrity circus events.

I reckon he’d do well and earn a lot of money engaging in a ‘David vs. Goliath’ type bout against a useless giant strongman like Eddie Hall.

Broner would also earn hefty sums competing against faded former MMA stars and YouTubers.

And to be perfectly honest with you, I think he’d stand an excellent chance of beating Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. right now.

What about the 59 year old terribly fragile Evander Holyfield? Or perhaps compete against another former fighter with their own issues with drugs and alcohol, such as Oscar De La Hoya?

Some people might think I’m joking, but I am not. He’s safer competing in those sort of events and he’ll also earn far more money, which is what he badly needs right now.