Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte | ESPN PPV - April 23, 2022

Who wins?

Poll ended at 23 Apr 2022, 13:34

Fury - Decision
20
25%
Fury - T/KO
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62%
DRAW
0
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Whyte - T/KO
10
12%
Whyte - Decision
1
1%
 
Total votes: 81

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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte | ESPN PPV - April 23, 2022

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gregregegg wrote: 12 Mar 2022, 03:55
Evander wrote: 12 Mar 2022, 02:23 Why wouldn't they happen, what did I miss ?
Usyk I get, Canelo v Bivol ?
Usyk has a lil war going on and bivol is at risk of been blacklisted due to being Russian, right now looks sweet but if russia dabble in a few war crimes between now and then i could defiantly see it on the cards.
I see.
Knock it off and stick to boxing.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte | ESPN PPV - April 23, 2022

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I'm hoping Whyte KO's Fury. 😂
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I think this will be a tough night for Fury. As someone mentioned previously the Fury that has the best chance of beating Whyte is the light fury who boxes and moves. Going in heavy with the intention of bullying Whyte is not a good game plan. Could be an interesting scrap and it wouldn’t surprise me if we witness an upset.
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Whyte is showing little character and sportsmanship skipping the promotion.
And this will work against when he loses. Who would want to give him another shot.
And if in a long shot he wins it work against him then too.
Nobody wants to work with a mentally unstable guy you can't count on.
Being mute didn't help Wilder. It shows weakness.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte | ESPN PPV - April 23, 2022

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If Whyte wins he’ll be WBC champion and will of course be welcomed back with open arms by Eddie Hearn who could potentially put him in with the winner of Usyk AJ.

If he loses he will also go back to Hearn - potential bout against the loser of AJ Usyk? Or a rebuild for another shot ?

I agree that’s it’s poor sportsmanship in refusing to promote the fight. But there’s also a lot to be said for being locked away focussing only on your training. Whyte is in Portugal training - so it would involve flights etc to come back.

Maybe he just wants to be in camp focussing on the fight and being the best version of himself on fight night.

If Fury comes in heavy for a fight it Wouldn’t surprise me at all if we see an upset
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte | ESPN PPV - April 23, 2022

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Fury: I'm Gonna Try And Come In At Me Heaviest Weight For The Dillian Whyte Fight

“I’m gonna try and come in at me heaviest weight of all time,” Fury stated during a press conference recently. “For the biggest fight and the biggest crowd, you’re gonna see the biggest Tyson Fury. I’m gonna come in like a man mountain.”

“What was me biggest weight?,” Fury asked reporters. “Can anyone tell me? I think it was like 19 stone, 11 [pounds], was it? Nineteen stone, 10 [pounds]. I’m gonna come in heavier than 19 stone, 10 [pounds]. I’m gonna be the heaviest world champion ever.”
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte | ESPN PPV - April 23, 2022

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:doh: I really hope he's bsing.
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snake33 wrote: 21 Mar 2022, 22:56 Whyte is showing little character and sportsmanship skipping the promotion.
there are, umm, 'alternative' views of this ('Whyte playing a clever game/ mind games/ masterplan')

not saying i agree, but there is... oh wait, actually it's just one retard-borderline nutjob on CS.

as you were, then.....
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Counter-puncher wrote: 22 Mar 2022, 12:26
snake33 wrote: 21 Mar 2022, 22:56 Whyte is showing little character and sportsmanship skipping the promotion.
there are, umm, 'alternative' views of this ('Whyte playing a clever game/ mind games/ masterplan')

not saying i agree, but there is... oh wait, actually it's just one retard-borderline nutjob on CS.

as you were, then.....
Who?
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte | ESPN PPV - April 23, 2022

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Wales wrote: 21 Mar 2022, 23:20 If Whyte wins he’ll be WBC champion and will of course be welcomed back with open arms by Eddie Hearn who could potentially put him in with the winner of Usyk AJ.

If he loses he will also go back to Hearn - potential bout against the loser of AJ Usyk? Or a rebuild for another shot ?

I agree that’s it’s poor sportsmanship in refusing to promote the fight. But there’s also a lot to be said for being locked away focussing only on your training. Whyte is in Portugal training - so it would involve flights etc to come back.

Maybe he just wants to be in camp focussing on the fight and being the best version of himself on fight night.

If Fury comes in heavy for a fight it Wouldn’t surprise me at all if we see an upset

There might be a lot of uncertainty around this fight, as there is around most Fury fights, but we can rest assured that Dillian Whyte will be coming in to win.

This is the fight of his life, and both of them know it.

Wouldn't surprise me if Whyte is thinking 'Screw the promotion, just win the fight!'.

He can always promote the one after, when he'll be the one getting the bigger share of the purse.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte | ESPN PPV - April 23, 2022

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I'm trying to recall a moment when one of the boxers refused to participate in promoting the fight in such a high profile event.
That's b.s on Dillian Whyte's behalf if you ask me.
It's very unprofessional but so be it, it will be remembered he should keep that in mind.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte | ESPN PPV - April 23, 2022

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Playing devils advocate here

Why is it unprofessional not to promote the fight? Whyte is there to fight. He’s signed to fight fury for 20% of the purse and nothing else. He will make the same if 1 person tunes in or 1,000,000 tune in. He’s on a rival promoters card.

He’s a fighter - The fight is signed on a contract where he makes the same no matter how many turn up or tune in.

Only way he makes more is if he wins - why not focus on that

If you ain’t getting a bonus on PPV or gate sales could you be arsed with stopping your training to fly to the UK and put up with the Fury’s to make them and your rival promoter more money .
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Wales wrote: 23 Mar 2022, 01:34 Playing devils advocate here

Why is it unprofessional not to promote the fight? Whyte is there to fight. He’s signed to fight fury for 20% of the purse and nothing else. He will make the same if 1 person tunes in or 1,000,000 tune in. He’s on a rival promoters card.

He’s a fighter - The fight is signed on a contract where he makes the same no matter how many turn up or tune in.

Only way he makes more is if he wins - why not focus on that

If you ain’t getting a bonus on PPV or gate sales could you be arsed with stopping your training to fly to the UK and put up with the Fury’s to make them and your rival promoter more money .
Oh yeah great idea.
One boxer is guaranteed his payday signing of the fight and we don't see him until weigh in.
That's great for the sport and I can only imagine the non participants career will flourish with that positive p.r activity.
He's acting like a knob.
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His non attendance at press conferences won’t damage his career at all.
He’s signed with Hearn not Warren. Hearn and co will be complicit in all this.

Dillian Whytes career will take off if he wins regardless of the press conference situation.

If he loses he’s in the same position going back to Hearn if he’d gone to them or not.

I don’t get how Whyte not turning up to press conferences is “yeah that’s good for the sport”. Do that many people put that much interest and weight behind him turning up and being shouted at by the Fury’s.

Flip side him not turning up could be a USP as it’s making headlines.

This is a sport with deep rooted problems like appalling judging, non competitive fights, elite fighters fighting 4 times in 3 years, best not fighting the best. Whyte not turning up to some media days is the least of our problems
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Wales wrote: 23 Mar 2022, 02:48 His non attendance at press conferences won’t damage his career at all.
Of course it won't.
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If he wins he goes back to Hearn and DAZN with the WBC belt as an A game with options and they know he’ll turn up on their pressers

If he loses he goes back to Hearn and DAZN who have options for him on their promotion and know he’ll turn up for their pressers

Boxing is such a fickle sport - we’ve ignored wife beaters, ear biters, steroid users, drug dealers, people who robbed old ladies, drug users, murderers, corruption, blatant cheating hell Oscar de la Hoya was described in court papers as having “a kitchen utensil up his anus”

For example tank Davies assaulting his wife courtside long and easily forgotten
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Wales wrote: 23 Mar 2022, 03:06 “a kitchen utensil”
I get it :doh:
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte | ESPN PPV - April 23, 2022

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Bet Whyte comes in mid to high 250's.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte | ESPN PPV - April 23, 2022

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Evander wrote: 23 Mar 2022, 03:25 Bet Whyte comes in mid to high 250's.
I’m assuming fury will be heavy? The aggressive Fury not the fleet footed one?

So I guess he’ll have to?
To compete with fury’s size and weight

He didn’t look the best against Rivas when he was heavy…
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte | ESPN PPV - April 23, 2022

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Gassed against Parker too when heavy

Whyte has been locked away for months in Portugal - not that I could tell if he was 248 or 258 if he had made an appearance
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte | ESPN PPV - April 23, 2022

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No one has seem him apart from a few hokey videos on yt.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte | ESPN PPV - April 23, 2022

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Surprised he wasn’t contractually obliged to do PR. Fury bossed wilder and wlad mentally before their fights. Whyte is easy to wind up.

I’d fancy Fury to beat AJ or Usyk… not convinced the fires burning for a Whyte fight. Probably doing him a huge disservice there
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte | ESPN PPV - April 23, 2022

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Like to see a bit of Whyte.
He's going underground by the looks of it.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte | ESPN PPV - April 23, 2022

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snake33 wrote: 21 Mar 2022, 22:56Whyte is showing little character and sportsmanship skipping the promotion.
Dillian Whyte got low-balled by Team Fury.

According to the WBC’s own rules, he should have received at least 30% as the mandatory challenger or 45% as the interim champion.

Instead, the WBC caved into Team Fury’s demands, changed their rules (using their "discretion" caveat), and forced Whyte to only take the 20% purse split or forgo his world title shot opportunity.

Dillian Whyte will receive a fixed purse of $7.4m (£5.5m), coupled with an opportunity to earn an additional $4.1million bonus (£3.1m) if he wins the fight.

He doesn’t receive a share of any of the gate receipt or PPV revenue.

This means that Whyte’s purse remains the same regardless as to whether the event is an astounding commercial profit-making success or a loss-making failure.

So there is no need for him to promote the fight, because he won’t be compensated for this extra effort.

Why should he line the pockets of the people that low-balled him?

So if Dillian Whyte is choosing to be silent, it’ll be because he wants the event to be a commercial failure, resulting in the people that low-balled him making a loss.

If Team Fury need Dillian Whyte to promote the fight and engage in trash talking against Tyson, they’ll need to pay him extra, because he’s not obliged to sell the bout.
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