Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte | BT PPV - 23 April 2022

[Ruthless-RKO]

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[Dioufy]

Jared Anderson v Christian Hammer apparently on the card.
Easy fight and another knockout… probs 1 or 2 rounds max.

[gregregegg]

Jared Anderson v Christian Hammer apparently on the card.
Easy fight and another knockout… probs 1 or 2 rounds max.

thats a big call. hammer is sturdy as fornicate.

[KiwiRider]

Jared Anderson v Christian Hammer apparently on the card.
Easy fight and another knockout… probs 1 or 2 rounds max.

thats a big call. hammer is sturdy as fornicate.

Sturdy, and he can be really negative when it's being put on him too.

[emallini]

Whyte gunna stay quiet and turn up like prime Iron Mike on the night.

[Wales]

The only way Whyte can emulate prime Tyson is by shouting “I’m going to hit you in the faith”

Part of me thinks Whyte can cause problems

But then I think of his last 6 fights
Parker had him down and out
Chisora was ahead on points
Rivas had him down
Stumbled past Wach
Beaten by Povetkin
Avenged that defeat

[margaret thatcher]

if fury is out of shape or not focused (which is hardly farfetched) whyte can defo cause problems, if fury is mostly on his game he's just too good for whyte and should beat him soundly, possibly with a big ktfo to end it. im up for it

[Wales]

Agreed mate

Fury is a complex character… I can’t decide if he’ll take Whyte lightly or train insane and smoke him

It’s odd with Fury

General consensus was David Price would hammer him
Most people said he would get beat by Wlad
Most people said he’d get beat by wilder
A lot of people thought he’d get beat in the rematch
Quite a few thought he’d lose the third fight
I’m seeing a lot that think Whyte could do it even though he’s gone life and death with second / third tier (all due respect) boxers for last 4 years

[Frostieballs]

Thing is, Fury just went life and death with a third tier boxer.

He can’t be in that shape for Whyte.

[mickey1975]

Tyson will never be In as bad a shape as last time out. He never wanted the fight, had a terrible camp, yet still got up and won in the 11th. I think he'll be on it for this.

[mickey1975]

Thing is, Fury just went life and death with a third tier boxer.

He can’t be in that shape for Whyte.

Lets not exaggerate. Third tier.....

[Ruthless-RKO]

Thing is, Fury just went life and death with a third tier boxer.

He can’t be in that shape for Whyte.

Lets not exaggerate. Third tier.....

Yeh. A lot of exaggeration there.

Wouldn’t even say life and death.

[Frostieballs]

Thing is, Fury just went life and death with a third tier boxer.

He can’t be in that shape for Whyte.

Lets not exaggerate. Third tier.....

Yeh. A lot of exaggeration there.

Wouldn’t even say life and death.

I would say life and death, I genuinely thought he was one punch away from losing on a number of occasions.

On the subject of Wilder, I think time will prove his real standing. Take a read down his record.

The only decent, in shape boxer he fought (second Fury fight) destroyed him.

Fury wasn't fit in the first and third fight.

[mickey1975]

But can still get up in the last round from a heavy knockdown?

[Counter-puncher]

But can still get up in the last round from a heavy knockdown?

having done a lot of movement on his feet throughout the previous 11 rounds.......

[deadpan]

Agreed mate

Fury is a complex character… I can’t decide if he’ll take Whyte lightly or train insane and smoke him

It’s odd with Fury

General consensus was David Price would hammer him
Most people said he would get beat by Wlad
Most people said he’d get beat by wilder
A lot of people thought he’d get beat in the rematch
Quite a few thought he’d lose the third fight
I’m seeing a lot that think Whyte could do it even though he’s gone life and death with second / third tier (all due respect) boxers for last 4 years

That's a very good summary! He is also the man who was gifted a win over Brit level McDermott and had an unconvincing struggle with a blown up CW in Cunningham. The chap is quite the paradox!

[mickey1975]

I was laying here this morning wondering how Andre Ward came back from a 7th fight knockdown to end up number one in his division. Quite the paradox, really.

[mickey1975]

How come Ali doesn't get this stick for being knocked down by a lot smaller man than Cunningham in Cooper? Nobody mentions it.

[Riddick Bowie]

I still find Fury a bit hard to gauge. He's good, but how good? His reputation is built on his fights with Klitschko and Wilder. His admirers puff up Klitschko's importance by playing up certain numbers (height, reach, KOs, number of years champ) and downplaying others (40 years old, 15 knockdowns against). Also, Klitschko doesn't have any great wins. He was like a caretaker champion during a very long heavyweight talent drought. Wilder doesn't have any great wins either, and his technique is astonishingly poor. Only in this era could someone that poor win such a major title and rack up defences against such weak opposition. It's difficult to find a parallel with his reign in living memory.

Does beating these guys establish greatness?

I'm picking Whyte to catch a reckless, overconfident Fury and stop him. And that's not bias, because I like Fury and dislike Whyte.

[Frostieballs]

But can still get up in the last round from a heavy knockdown?

having done a lot of movement on his feet throughout the previous 11 rounds.......

Y’all think Tyson was fit in that fight?

That was sheer will.

Plus you can have that stamina and grit you train into yourself over years (check out old dude marathon runners) and not be aerobically fit.

[Counter-puncher]

But can still get up in the last round from a heavy knockdown?

having done a lot of movement on his feet throughout the previous 11 rounds.......

Y’all think Tyson was fit in that fight?

That was sheer will.

I'm not sure any amount of 'will' can overcome a fundamental lack of cardio-vascular fitness, to the extent of enabling extensive movement for an 18 plus stone man, over 12 rounds, if he was otherwise unfit.

in fact though I am not an expert I'm pretty sure it can't.

I'm not generally of the school that thinks willpower can overcome tangible physical limitations.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Tyson Fury is a rare breed.

That’s not a compliment but it’s not an insult either.

There’s something about him.

[Controversial]

I still find Fury a bit hard to gauge. He's good, but how good? His reputation is built on his fights with Klitschko and Wilder. His admirers puff up Klitschko's importance by playing up certain numbers (height, reach, KOs, number of years champ) and downplaying others (40 years old, 15 knockdowns against). Also, Klitschko doesn't have any great wins. He was like a caretaker champion during a very long heavyweight talent drought. Wilder doesn't have any great wins either, and his technique is astonishingly poor. Only in this era could someone that poor win such a major title and rack up defences against such weak opposition. It's difficult to find a parallel with his reign in living memory.

Does beating these guys establish greatness?

I'm picking Whyte to catch a reckless, overconfident Fury and stop him. And that's not bias, because I like Fury and dislike Whyte.

You can only really judge someone on the fights they have. We can all dissect a fighter and point out issues, Marciano fought a lot of smaller and older HWs. Someone else will argue they were still great fighters, others will say they were on the decline. Mike Tyson didn't really beat a 'great' HW, again we can argue Holmes was an ATG but was he when he fought Tyson? Personally I think Fury would be a handful against most fighters in history purely based on his size and unconventional style.

[mickey1975]

Tyson Fury is a rare breed.

That’s not a compliment but it’s not an insult either.

There’s something about him.

A very rare breed. Men that big don't move like that, everyone says it.

[mickey1975]

Didn't Ali/Clay scrape past Doug Jones early on in his career? It's not a black mark, they learn from it.