Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte | BT PPV - 23 April 2022

[jimmystone]

Whyte is not in Fury's league. It's an awful, underwhelming match. Whyte has a puncher's chance like Oliver McCall against Lewis. Unlike McCall his chin is crap.

[deadpan]

How come Ali doesn't get this stick for being knocked down by a lot smaller man than Cunningham in Cooper? Nobody mentions it.

Primarily because he was Muhammad Ali. I think it's fair to say that he somewhat cemented his legacy against all comers. And he wasn't gifted a win against Two Ton John McDermott.

Comparing Ali and Fury is akin to equating Shakin' Stevens with Elvis.
What version of Ali does Wilder lay a glove on in 30 rounds?

I'm a Fury fan but think he's a highlight-reel-kayo-in-waiting.

[tony1234]

I wonder what would have happened if Fury had fought Povetkin at fight camp instead of Whyte ? I can't see Fury laid out on the canvas , would to me have been a wide points win for Fury.

The only danger is one of them pulling out as if they both turn up on the night then it will be an easy night for Fury

[mickey1975]

How come Ali doesn't get this stick for being knocked down by a lot smaller man than Cunningham in Cooper? Nobody mentions it.

Primarily because he was Muhammad Ali. I think it's fair to say that he somewhat cemented his legacy against all comers. And he wasn't gifted a win against Two Ton John McDermott.

Comparing Ali and Fury is akin to equating Shakin' Stevens with Elvis.
What version of Ali does Wilder lay a glove on in 30 rounds?

I'm a Fury fan but think he's a highlight-reel-kayo-in-waiting.

Doug Jones?

[maverick23]

How come Ali doesn't get this stick for being knocked down by a lot smaller man than Cunningham in Cooper? Nobody mentions it.

Primarily because he was Muhammad Ali. I think it's fair to say that he somewhat cemented his legacy against all comers. And he wasn't gifted a win against Two Ton John McDermott.

Comparing Ali and Fury is akin to equating Shakin' Stevens with Elvis.
What version of Ali does Wilder lay a glove on in 30 rounds?

I'm a Fury fan but think he's a highlight-reel-kayo-in-waiting.

Doug Jones?

Jones beat Zora Folley and Bob Foster in his 2 fights before fighting Clay. He gave Clay a good fight. It was a close fight but I thought Clay narrowly won it from memory.

Jones and John McDermott aren’t comparable.

[Frostieballs]

having done a lot of movement on his feet throughout the previous 11 rounds.......

Y’all think Tyson was fit in that fight?

That was sheer will.

I'm not sure any amount of 'will' can overcome a fundamental lack of cardio-vascular fitness, to the extent of enabling extensive movement for an 18 plus stone man, over 12 rounds, if he was otherwise unfit.

in fact though I am not an expert I'm pretty sure it can't.

I'm not generally of the school that thinks willpower can overcome tangible physical limitations.

You never heard of people lifting cars off trapped people?

Plus in that fight he wasn’t as out of it as he looked. When I first watched it I thought it was the second coming of Lazarus. Subsequently I could see his eyes were open.

Even if you argued he was fit in that fight, he definitely wasn’t sharp or ‘match fit’.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Hearn Will Find a Way To Attend Fury-Whyte, By Carrying Bucket For Whyte's Corner

"I don't think I'm allowed [to attend the fight] but I might go in the corner. I was thinking about going in the corner and carrying the bucket, I would do that. I would put on a Dillian Whyte T-shirt and carry the bucket in the corner. Imagine the buys. Might double the buys, the announcement, 'Eddie Hearn to carry the bucket for Dillian Whyte,'" Hearn told Boxing Social.

“There’s just loads of different problems to resolve. I don’t think it’s gonna affect the fight. But, to be honest with you, I’m so glad I’m not involved," Hearn told Talk Sport.

“Because I’ll just turn up or whatever I’ll do, tune in and watch it. Hopefully they both get in the ring and give everybody a great fight.”

[Counter-puncher]

Y’all think Tyson was fit in that fight?

That was sheer will.

I'm not sure any amount of 'will' can overcome a fundamental lack of cardio-vascular fitness, to the extent of enabling extensive movement for an 18 plus stone man, over 12 rounds, if he was otherwise unfit.

in fact though I am not an expert I'm pretty sure it can't.

I'm not generally of the school that thinks willpower can overcome tangible physical limitations.

You never heard of people lifting cars off trapped people?

Plus in that fight he wasn’t as out of it as he looked. When I first watched it I thought it was the second coming of Lazarus. Subsequently I could see his eyes were open.

Even if you argued he was fit in that fight, he definitely wasn’t sharp or ‘match fit’.

Sure, adrenaline can make people do amazing things under extreme duress, and sure that could explain the recovery from the KD

I Don’t think it explains the ability of an 18 stone man to move constantly and fluidly for the 11 previous rounds- and move well after the KD- if he wasn’t fundamentally fit, if his legs weren’t fundamentally strong, etc.


What’s ‘match fit’ if not the ability to sustain better movement than your opponent for 12 rounds? Fit but not match fit or sharp, nah I think that’s bollocks, he did 12 and he did it quite comfortably, how that isn’t match fit is beyond me.

[dookus]

Tyson Fury is a rare breed.

That’s not a compliment but it’s not an insult either.

There’s something about him.

A very rare breed. Men that big don't move like that, everyone says it.

For me the rare thing about Tyson is how he just keeps on learning. He looks nothing in his earlier fights like he does now. Most world-level fighters started out looking a lot better!

[Frostieballs]

I'm not sure any amount of 'will' can overcome a fundamental lack of cardio-vascular fitness, to the extent of enabling extensive movement for an 18 plus stone man, over 12 rounds, if he was otherwise unfit.

in fact though I am not an expert I'm pretty sure it can't.

I'm not generally of the school that thinks willpower can overcome tangible physical limitations.

You never heard of people lifting cars off trapped people?

Plus in that fight he wasn’t as out of it as he looked. When I first watched it I thought it was the second coming of Lazarus. Subsequently I could see his eyes were open.

Even if you argued he was fit in that fight, he definitely wasn’t sharp or ‘match fit’.

Sure, adrenaline can make people do amazing things under extreme duress, and sure that could explain the recovery from the KD

I Don’t think it explains the ability of an 18 stone man to move constantly and fluidly for the 11 previous rounds- and move well after the KD- if he wasn’t fundamentally fit, if his legs weren’t fundamentally strong, etc.


What’s ‘match fit’ if not the ability to sustain better movement than your opponent for 12 rounds? Fit but not match fit or sharp, nah I think that’s bollocks, he did 12 and he did it quite comfortably, how that isn’t match fit is beyond me.

He was only able to do that because he was boxing a third tier fighter who didn’t put him under any pressure - my original point.

In short, you rate Wilder more highly than me. I think he’s pretty bad. Time will tell.

[Riddick Bowie]

Primarily because he was Muhammad Ali. I think it's fair to say that he somewhat cemented his legacy against all comers. And he wasn't gifted a win against Two Ton John McDermott.

Comparing Ali and Fury is akin to equating Shakin' Stevens with Elvis.
What version of Ali does Wilder lay a glove on in 30 rounds?

I'm a Fury fan but think he's a highlight-reel-kayo-in-waiting.

Doug Jones?

Jones beat Zora Folley and Bob Foster in his 2 fights before fighting Clay. He gave Clay a good fight. It was a close fight but I thought Clay narrowly won it from memory.

Jones and John McDermott aren’t comparable.

Agree. One looks like an elite athlete and the other looks like a darts player.

[jameswilson]

We’re about a month out and I’ll tell you what the undercard is looking too draw.

Isaac Lowe vs tba and that’s it.

[Ruthless-RKO]

We’re about a month out and I’ll tell you what the undercard is looking too draw.

Isaac Lowe vs tba and that’s it.

Tommy Fury vs. TBA as well.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Jared Anderson pulls out of his clash with Christian Hammer on the Tyson Fury vs Dillian Whyte undercard after suffering an injury in training... as the Gypsy King's sparring partner admits he has paid the price for rushing his camp

American heavyweight Jared Anderson has been forced to withdraw from his bout on the undercard of Tyson Fury's clash with Dillian Whyte after picking up an injury.

Anderson, Fury's main sparring partner over the past two years, was scheduled to make his UK debut against Christian Hammer at Wembley on April 30.

Yet just over a month out from the fight, the 22-year-old has sustained an injury which will prevent him from taking to the ring.

Anderson revealed the news on Instagram and admitted he has paid the price for rushing his training camp in the lead-up to his encounter with Hammer.

'To all my fans and supporters, I would like to personally apologise because I will no longer be able to fight on the Fury vs. Whyte undercard due to injury,' he wrote.

'I rushed this camp, and now I have to go into hiding. I will be back ten times stronger. Yours truly, The Real Big Baby.'

Anderson was recruited as a sparring partner for Fury before the latter's second and third encounters with Deontay Wilder, which he prevailed in by stoppage on both occasions.

[jameswilson]

Ah I didn’t know that was unofficially on the card. Hammer is getting to that stage of no longer being a decent name tho. A bit like Kevin Johnson and Julius Francis in the past you can only have so many UD losses where you don’t win a single round.

I’ve just seen Frazer Clarke’s got f ucking injured. We just literally can’t get heavyweights fighting every month here can we? Even from debut 4 times a year is considered a decent level of activity.

He was down to fight that Enguema guy who just took Fisher the distance which as second fights go ain’t bad I suppose.

[digzee]

This is a mismatch Whyte doesn't even have a punchers chance when not even Wilder could keep him down

Unless they add 2 competitive European level fights to the undercard I'll wait for the highlights the day after

[Controversial]

This is a mismatch Whyte doesn't even have a punchers chance when not even Wilder could keep him down

Whyte will be a lot more physical than Wilder and not as easily manhandled. I think he will go for it, rough Fury up from the start and target his body. Fury should win but I don’t think Whyte will make it easy.

[Dioufy]

Whyte’s brother seems to be gloating that PPV numbers will be low for this.
A lot of casuals know Whyte… everyone knows Tyson. I don’t think numbers will be too affected because of Whyte’s silence.
It anything it’s getting more interest because of that.
TalkSPORT today went out to hundreds of thousands.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Whyte’s brother seems to be gloating that PPV numbers will be low for this.
A lot of casuals know Whyte… everyone knows Tyson. I don’t think numbers will be too affected because of Whyte’s silence.
It anything it’s getting more interest because of that.
TalkSPORT today went out to hundreds of thousands.

Yeh, promotion for the fight has actually bee quite good..

I follow some random boxing pages in IG, and they have decent amount of followers, and just talking about Whyte's silence, is getting people talking.

[KiwiRider]

This is a mismatch Whyte doesn't even have a punchers chance when not even Wilder could keep him down

Unless they add 2 competitive European level fights to the undercard I'll wait for the highlights the day after

I agree.
Even though the Anderson /Hammer fight would have been as negative as heck, I would still have watched it because Jared Anderson is of the next generation heavies, and I'm following his journey.
Now that is gone, there is literally nothing listed on the schedule.
If I wanted to follow Tommy Fury's journey, I would download the Instagram app

[JamesPhilips]

This is a mismatch Whyte doesn't even have a punchers chance when not even Wilder could keep him down

Unless they add 2 competitive European level fights to the undercard I'll wait for the highlights the day after

I agree.
Even though the Anderson /Hammer fight would have been as negative as heck, I would still have watched it because Jared Anderson is of the next generation heavies, and I'm following his journey.
Now that is gone, there is literally nothing listed on the schedule.
If I wanted to follow Tommy Fury's journey, I would download the Instagram app

I think that unfortunately the promoters have realised that with these big fights they only need to sell the main event. Most casuals couldn't care about the undercard. They just want to get pissed and sniff Charlie, take selfies with their mates, post it on their social media.....and these guys will always be the bulk of sales. I will still buy it because there are so few big fights. I just have to put up with the lame undercard.

[dookus]

So who's Fury sparring now? Surely they need a replacement for Anderson, Bakole and Parker body sparring is not going to cut it for Whyte.

[KiwiRider]

This is a mismatch Whyte doesn't even have a punchers chance when not even Wilder could keep him down

Unless they add 2 competitive European level fights to the undercard I'll wait for the highlights the day after

I agree.
Even though the Anderson /Hammer fight would have been as negative as heck, I would still have watched it because Jared Anderson is of the next generation heavies, and I'm following his journey.
Now that is gone, there is literally nothing listed on the schedule.
If I wanted to follow Tommy Fury's journey, I would download the Instagram app

I think that unfortunately the promoters have realised that with these big fights they only need to sell the main event. Most casuals couldn't care about the undercard. They just want to get pissed and sniff Charlie, take selfies with their mates, post it on their social media.....and these guys will always be the bulk of sales. I will still buy it because there are so few big fights. I just have to put up with the lame undercard.

It is a bit sad isn't it?
The general health of boxing is poorer because of these big fights not being made into proper events.
It's no wonder the crowd gets testie. They have to wait through a few hours of predictable knock over fights before a main event.
Sorry to say it James, but I think the main event of this one might be a bit of a crap main event.
I say that because I believe Whyte has lost some punch resistance, and Fury may not be as motivated in training as he has been. His last fight he was in poorer condition than the second Wilder fight. But you never know, he could turn up fighting fit.
I just don't feel the full price of the ppv warrants one fight between Fury and a guy I believe to be past prime, and nothing else on the card.

[JamesPhilips]

I agree.
Even though the Anderson /Hammer fight would have been as negative as heck, I would still have watched it because Jared Anderson is of the next generation heavies, and I'm following his journey.
Now that is gone, there is literally nothing listed on the schedule.
If I wanted to follow Tommy Fury's journey, I would download the Instagram app

I think that unfortunately the promoters have realised that with these big fights they only need to sell the main event. Most casuals couldn't care about the undercard. They just want to get pissed and sniff Charlie, take selfies with their mates, post it on their social media.....and these guys will always be the bulk of sales. I will still buy it because there are so few big fights. I just have to put up with the lame undercard.

It is a bit sad isn't it?
The general health of boxing is poorer because of these big fights not being made into proper events.
It's no wonder the crowd gets testie. They have to wait through a few hours of predictable knock over fights before a main event.
Sorry to say it James, but I think the main event of this one might be a bit of a crap main event.
I say that because I believe Whyte has lost some punch resistance, and Fury may not be as motivated in training as he has been. His last fight he was in poorer condition than the second Wilder fight. But you never know, he could turn up fighting fit.
I just don't feel the full price of the ppv warrants one fight between Fury and a guy I believe to be past prime, and nothing else on the card.

Yeah I have to say I'm not sure about the main event. A guy like Fury can be so hard to predict depending on his state. Whyte can still punch. But I expect a Tyson win.

[deadpan]

Doug Jones?

Jones beat Zora Folley and Bob Foster in his 2 fights before fighting Clay. He gave Clay a good fight. It was a close fight but I thought Clay narrowly won it from memory.

Jones and John McDermott aren’t comparable.

Agree. One looks like an elite athlete and the other looks like a darts player.

Has Mickey forgotten his password?