Round-by-Round: Kiko Martinez vs. Josh Warrington II - 26 March 2022

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Re: Round-by-Round: Kiko Martinez vs. Josh Warrington II - 26 March 2022

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mickey1975 wrote: 27 Mar 2022, 05:40
MasterG wrote: 27 Mar 2022, 05:09 That fight was almost the best world featherweight title clash with a British boxer. There is no doubt if Warrington had stopped Kiko in the 3rd that fight would have surpassed any featherweight title fight had by a British boxer. I'm guessing the broken jaw scuppered that but it was a fantastic display for our boxer.

In my opinion you can't knock that display
I think Hamed, Hodkinson, Wood plus others, several others, might disagree with you there.
If Warrington had finished him in the 3rd round as it kind of looked like I certainly would have put that performance right up there.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Kiko Martinez vs. Josh Warrington II - 26 March 2022

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Hearn did mention an IBF mandatory next. Next in the rankings is the guy who beat Isaac Lowe.
I see that happening in Vegas on an undercard/chief support.
Then the City Ground. 16k Leeds fans, 16k Forest fans.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Kiko Martinez vs. Josh Warrington II - 26 March 2022

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With all the posting about head butts - rewatched fight this morn. Both gents dip their heads in a good deal. When Kiko goes into his guard he is bent forward forehead leaned forward. Josh was very aggressive and certainly head forward as well. Didn’t see any blatant head butts with purpose. Just a style clash that lead to it. Believe Wood and Conlan beat them both.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Kiko Martinez vs. Josh Warrington II - 26 March 2022

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gregregegg wrote: 27 Mar 2022, 09:03
digzee wrote: 27 Mar 2022, 08:49 Its funny how the most blatant foul of the fight, Kiko punching after the ref broke them up in the first round, has not been mentioned once by anyone. Hypocrites
I mentioned it, 100% should of been a point off, he hit on the break and after the bell in the first round. should of been a point.

But the fouls that effected the outcome were warringtons, hence why people are talking about it. If kikos late shots had a real effect we would likely be discussing them more. like the 3 cuts kiko had to deal with.
Sorry Gregg I must've missed your post. I didn't see any dangerous use of Warrington's head or elbow myself and all the clashes were accidental, in my opinion. Kiko inches into range with his head down chin on his chest so I'm not surprised to see minor clashes of the head, this is boxing.

Look at AJ-Takam and AJ-Povetkin where AJ gets a busted nose from head clashes, all because he doesn't know how to fight inside against shorter fighters

Also we don't know if Kiko's foul affected the outcome, had he not bought time getting bollock'd by the ref maybe Josh would've stopped him that round
Dioufy wrote: 27 Mar 2022, 09:24
digzee wrote: 27 Mar 2022, 08:49 Its funny how the most blatant foul of the fight, Kiko punching after the ref broke them up in the first round, has not been mentioned once by anyone. Hypocrites
Should’ve been a point off. I didn’t mention it in my post but I understand why he punched through frustration.
Either way… McDonnell missed an obvious point deduction but tbf he missed a lot.
That came in the first round when there had only been 1 clash of heads and that was 100% accidental. It was a punch through frustration, frustration of getting knocked down and beat up after saying he was going to silence the crowd after 2 rounds. In my opinion that is
skanksta wrote: 27 Mar 2022, 10:33
digzee wrote: 27 Mar 2022, 08:54
littlepug wrote: 27 Mar 2022, 08:40 Well I enjoyed the Warrington/Kiko fight and the Ebonie Bridges fight kept me entertained, Williamson v Cartwright the night before was a good fight and the week before we had Conlan v Wood and the Sandy Ryan fight, week before that was Jordan Gill snatching victory from the jaws of defeat and a few weeks back we had the mastery of Chocolatito turning back the challenge of a dangerous young lion in Martinez, there been other stuff including bits and bobs from Dubai, OZ, USA and Japan but the point is don’t spend all your time bashing the sport to the point that you forget to celebrate all the good stuff, boxing has always been flawed, get over it and enjoy the sport rather than slagging it off all the time.
Yeah there's so much negativity I don't know why some bother with the sport.

I don't know what you can buy for £8 that is better value than a whole months worth of boxing, especially the month we've just had.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Kiko Martinez vs. Josh Warrington II - 26 March 2022

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Headbutts are a hazard of the job, Kiko fights like that as well, it's the shoulders and arms which were out of order, ref should've been on that
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Re: Round-by-Round: Kiko Martinez vs. Josh Warrington II - 26 March 2022

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The headbutt had a massive impact on the knockdown in the 1st and it lead to the cut.

It looked accidental but it definitely affected the fight
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Re: Round-by-Round: Kiko Martinez vs. Josh Warrington II - 26 March 2022

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forcefraser wrote: 28 Mar 2022, 02:53 The headbutt had a massive impact on the knockdown in the 1st and it lead to the cut.

It looked accidental but it definitely affected the fight
Yeah definitely. Kiko went into panic mode and got put down because of it.
People underestimate how much a clash of heads can affect a fighter. You’re taking a flush shot with hard bone.
I’m not saying that Josh intentionally butted him but he’s consistently putting his head in a place where it’s likely to happen.
Just ask Mauricio Lara.

That blow in the 1st took both fighters away from their game-plan and good for Josh that it benefitted him.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Kiko Martinez vs. Josh Warrington II - 26 March 2022

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between kiko and lara, in back to back fights he cut 2 dudes in a total of a round and a half. people can complain that everyone's being so unfair to josh, but that is quite the feat!

i wonder if he'll pull the triple crown and cut his opponent with his head next fight too.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Kiko Martinez vs. Josh Warrington II - 26 March 2022

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margaret thatcher wrote: 28 Mar 2022, 03:15 between kiko and lara, in back to back fights he cut 2 dudes in a total of a round and a half. people can complain that everyone's being so unfair to josh, but that is quite the feat!
indeed. I don't believe in coincidences, in life in general.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Kiko Martinez vs. Josh Warrington II - 26 March 2022

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ha it crossed my mind as a joke, that one (hurt his jaw by mistiming his headbutt)
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Re: Round-by-Round: Kiko Martinez vs. Josh Warrington II - 26 March 2022

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Lara himself leans in with his head in every fight and gets warned, it's asking for trouble

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Re: Round-by-Round: Kiko Martinez vs. Josh Warrington II - 26 March 2022

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digzee wrote: 28 Mar 2022, 08:50 Lara himself leans in with his head in every fight and gets warned, it's asking for trouble

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You can't really blame Lara for Warrington sticking the nut on Selby, Frampton and Martinez.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Kiko Martinez vs. Josh Warrington II - 26 March 2022

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Maybe Lara learned something in September in Leeds as I can’t recall him doing it vs Warrington both times.
Against Sanchez he gassed pretty much in round 2; perhaps that contributed to the head weaving?
Either way… it’s obvious Warrington has a new style. It’s worked for him so far.
He got paid very well for 1 round vs Lara and it helped him take Kiko apart.
I don’t like it but until we see points taken off… it’s here to stay.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Kiko Martinez vs. Josh Warrington II - 26 March 2022

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the stoppage was pure shit business as usual by a corrupted to the core ref.

martinez was in no shape or form out. warrington wasn't landing anything doing real damage, all he did was emptying his tank.

of cause he knew the frikkin ref would step in the first moment remotely possible, making it look a legit stoppage... for those who wanted to see warrington win no matter how and for those who got no clue whatsoever.

they saved warrington from a tko loss cause no way could he could have gone on with that fvcked up jaw.

people saying because he didn't complain he was okay with the stoppage... must be frikkin joking.

kiko is a veteran pro and grown man not a little whiny kid. when did 'complaining' ever change anything?

the headbutting was 100% intentional. if you hold your gloves next to your head sticking your frikkin noggin'out and come straight forward like that without even attempting to throw a hand... what the fvck else is that but intentional headbutting.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Kiko Martinez vs. Josh Warrington II - 26 March 2022

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ya, lara really dug his head into josh. crouched down under him and rammed him hard with it. bad lara.

funny how josh didnt actually bother throwing a punch, just wades in crouching super low and head down. why not post the actual lara-warrington 2 fight instead of lara vs some other guy?

dudes can moan about people being too hard on him, but as said, cutting 2 opponents back to back (coincidentally both since coming back from a loss - new strategy?), in a total of a round and a half, is quite something. i have been a fan of josh's and have the posts to prove it, none of this 'josh just cant win' stuff. i think josh is a warrior, but i simply dont like constant dirty fighting from any fighter

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Re: Round-by-Round: Kiko Martinez vs. Josh Warrington II - 26 March 2022

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adislav123 wrote: 28 Mar 2022, 13:14 the stoppage was pure shit business as usual by a corrupted to the core ref.

martinez was in no shape or form out. warrington wasn't landing anything doing real damage, all he did was emptying his tank.

of cause he knew the frikkin ref would step in the first moment remotely possible, making it look a legit stoppage... for those who wanted to see warrington win no matter how and for those who got no clue whatsoever.

they saved warrington from a tko loss cause no way could he could have gone on with that fvcked up jaw.

people saying because he didn't complain he was okay with the stoppage... must be frikkin joking.

kiko is a veteran pro and grown man not a little whiny kid. when did 'complaining' ever change anything?

the headbutting was 100% intentional. if you hold your gloves next to your head sticking your frikkin noggin'out and come straight forward like that without even attempting to throw a hand... what the fvck else is that but intentional headbutting.
bit of a stretch
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Re: Round-by-Round: Kiko Martinez vs. Josh Warrington II - 26 March 2022

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margaret thatcher wrote: 28 Mar 2022, 13:44 ya, lara really dug his head into josh. crouched down under him and rammed him hard with it. bad lara.

funny how josh didnt actually bother throwing a punch, just wades in crouching super low and head down. why not post the actual lara-warrington 2 fight instead of lara vs some other guy?

dudes can moan about people being too hard on him, but as said, cutting 2 opponents back to back (coincidentally both since coming back from a loss - new strategy?), in a total of a round and a half, is quite something. i have been a fan of josh's and have the posts to prove it, none of this 'josh just cant win' stuff. i think josh is a warrior, but i simply dont like constant dirty fighting from any fighter

Lara put his head down the same time as Josh

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As if any boxer and his coaches come up with a strategy of headbutting opponents
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Re: Round-by-Round: Kiko Martinez vs. Josh Warrington II - 26 March 2022

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eye, meet top of josh's head lol. dude was crouched way low, head down, and wading in with it. 2 fights in a row, 2 cuts in a round and a half. basically almost as soon as these fights start josh is cutting dudes with dat dome.

doesnt seem far fetched to me that a boxer would intentionally fight rough/dirty, especially if they feel they needed to add more of a phsyical presence to their game. lara cut almost straight away in rematch, kiko cut in the first round (unlike their first fight).

josh is obviously getting the head in there more.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Kiko Martinez vs. Josh Warrington II - 26 March 2022

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margaret thatcher wrote: 28 Mar 2022, 19:17 eye, meet top of josh's head lol. dude was crouched way low, head down, and wading in with it. 2 fights in a row, 2 cuts in a round and a half. basically almost as soon as these fights start josh is cutting dudes with dat dome.

doesnt seem far fetched to me that a boxer would intentionally fight rough/dirty, especially if they feel they needed to add more of a phsyical presence to their game
It’s his new fighting style. Twice a Trend.

Expect it on his next bout too.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Kiko Martinez vs. Josh Warrington II - 26 March 2022

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Josh ‘Butt’ Warrington :brick:
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Re: Round-by-Round: Kiko Martinez vs. Josh Warrington II - 26 March 2022

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 28 Mar 2022, 19:18
margaret thatcher wrote: 28 Mar 2022, 19:17 eye, meet top of josh's head lol. dude was crouched way low, head down, and wading in with it. 2 fights in a row, 2 cuts in a round and a half. basically almost as soon as these fights start josh is cutting dudes with dat dome.

doesnt seem far fetched to me that a boxer would intentionally fight rough/dirty, especially if they feel they needed to add more of a phsyical presence to their game
It’s his new fighting style. Twice a Trend.

Expect it on his next bout too.
ya, i wonder if he'll do the 3-peat. and can he do it within the first 2 rounds again?

although im sure it would be his opponent's fault and we'd all just be silly willys for not liking it
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Re: Round-by-Round: Kiko Martinez vs. Josh Warrington II - 26 March 2022

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digzee wrote: 28 Mar 2022, 16:50
margaret thatcher wrote: 28 Mar 2022, 13:44 ya, lara really dug his head into josh. crouched down under him and rammed him hard with it. bad lara.

funny how josh didnt actually bother throwing a punch, just wades in crouching super low and head down. why not post the actual lara-warrington 2 fight instead of lara vs some other guy?

dudes can moan about people being too hard on him, but as said, cutting 2 opponents back to back (coincidentally both since coming back from a loss - new strategy?), in a total of a round and a half, is quite something. i have been a fan of josh's and have the posts to prove it, none of this 'josh just cant win' stuff. i think josh is a warrior, but i simply dont like constant dirty fighting from any fighter

Lara put his head down the same time as Josh

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As if any boxer and his coaches come up with a strategy of headbutting opponents
100% they fvckin' do come up with the foulest shit possible that does the most damage which headbutting defo is, if they know the only thing the motherfvckin' corrupt paid off ref is warn both fighters to watch their heads and isn't doing shit to stop it.

again: if you come in crouched down, head first, with not even the intention to throw a hand what the fvck else is it than an intentional headbutt???
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