Herbie Hide vs. Jorge Luis Gonzalez

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Vlad
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Herbie Hide vs. Jorge Luis Gonzalez

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Prime vs prime, who wins?
cannonball
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Re: Herbie Hide vs. Jorge Luis Gonzalez

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if JLG lands early Hide is on his back

Hide never coped well with big HWs who could punch
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Re: Herbie Hide vs. Jorge Luis Gonzalez

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cannonball wrote: 10 Apr 2022, 16:08 if JLG lands early Hide is on his back

Hide never coped well with big HWs who could punch
I thought the same as JLG would punish Hide and knock him out in 4 rounds.
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Re: Herbie Hide vs. Jorge Luis Gonzalez

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This implies that Gonzlaez could punch. :D
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Re: Herbie Hide vs. Jorge Luis Gonzalez

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punched hard enough to KO paper chinned Hide
Ambling Alp II
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Re: Herbie Hide vs. Jorge Luis Gonzalez

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Don't know about that Does feather break glass?

Gonzales had a weak chin himself and pretty much totally sucked. Hide had some power and some ability.
Bowe fought them back to back and Hide seemed to be the better of the two.
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Re: Herbie Hide vs. Jorge Luis Gonzalez

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Neither has ever defeated a credible opponent. Both could punch, but were fragile. Hide did a bit better against Bowe, but that doesn't tell much, both were destroyed anyway. A 50-50 matchup.
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Re: Herbie Hide vs. Jorge Luis Gonzalez

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Hide if he actually keeps his head, follows a game-plan and especially whilst in with a way bigger man.
But that was frankly such a "collectors item" from HH that the Cuban probably prevails.

Herbie was a guy during his heavyweight sojourn who could bang-over a certain "reasonable" class of way bigger bloke and also very quickly/dramatically. Fast hands, quick feet and his power shots were not taps.

But he was a slow learner in terms of understanding that just a class above these guys there was someone like Bowe and Vitali who could well-defend themselves, hit back frigging hard and set a few lethal traps of their own.

The quick take-down fight with the ageing Tucker in 1997 and on home soil was good for Hide's bank balance but I strongly not productive for his career.

He seems to have believed the Bowe beating he endured was something of an aberration and he could simply return to smashing his way through the division.

But in with Big Vitali in 1999 - after two nonsense defences for Herbie - proved that he'd actually learned very little and the result was painful and evidence that Herbie did not take advice or know when to change strategy.
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Re: Herbie Hide vs. Jorge Luis Gonzalez

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Yeah, I don't think Hide was very good, but Gonzales seemed even worse.
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