Round-by-Round: Conor Benn vs. Chris van Heerden - 16 April 2022

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Re: Round-by-Round: Conor Benn vs. Chris van Heerden - 16 April 2022

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gregregegg wrote: 16 Apr 2022, 18:28
margaret thatcher wrote: 16 Apr 2022, 18:20
gregregegg wrote: 16 Apr 2022, 18:19 I could see a ray robson, with a claim of wanting more southpaw rounds.... I think its a good progress fight (Id also do it in the USA for that experence), but a few on here might have a stroke..
lol, he could fight a corpse and im sure you'd find an argument for it :lol:
It feels that way dosent it... but na, i just hold connor to a standard fair to what i think he is...

Ray would be better than Bootses last opponent, Way better than avas last opponent, way way better than Custio Clayton last opponent. There are plenty of guys getting a way with worse with very little complaint...

I had ray beating Kelly, and he has always been tough.
i dont agree, and just for a shortcut compare how ray did vs ugas (lost every round and ko'd) to how dulorme did (1 point loss and dropped him). what is the best win robinson has?

robinson is pillow handed, old, and inactive. ffs step it up
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Re: Round-by-Round: Conor Benn vs. Chris van Heerden - 16 April 2022

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margaret thatcher wrote: 16 Apr 2022, 18:22 36, 1 win in 5 years and only boxed 3 rounds in the last 3 years, no power.......i like ray's chances lol. they can do the 'still learning vs southpaw' schtick

although mo hooker was lined up before and then got injured (i think that was it), so can see that being the one
but still fought better oppo then benn tho ugas is fighting spence tonight
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Re: Round-by-Round: Conor Benn vs. Chris van Heerden - 16 April 2022

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ya, robinson fought ugas, lost every round, got dropped multiple times, then knocked out

he's won a single fight in 5 years and has boxed 3 rounds in the last 3 years

lol
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Re: Round-by-Round: Conor Benn vs. Chris van Heerden - 16 April 2022

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mickey1975 wrote: 16 Apr 2022, 18:22 Which hall got filled?
Johnny Hall, in the west side toilets, and I doubt it was consensual.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Conor Benn vs. Chris van Heerden - 16 April 2022

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margaret thatcher wrote: 16 Apr 2022, 18:30
gregregegg wrote: 16 Apr 2022, 18:28
margaret thatcher wrote: 16 Apr 2022, 18:20

lol, he could fight a corpse and im sure you'd find an argument for it :lol:
It feels that way dosent it... but na, i just hold connor to a standard fair to what i think he is...

Ray would be better than Bootses last opponent, Way better than avas last opponent, way way better than Custio Clayton last opponent. There are plenty of guys getting a way with worse with very little complaint...

I had ray beating Kelly, and he has always been tough.
i dont agree, and just for a shortcut compare how ray did vs ugas (lost every round and ko'd) to how dulorme did (1 point loss and dropped him). what is the best win robinson has?

robinson is pillow handed, old, and inactive. ffs step it up
the thing is not saying ray robinson but some one of that kind as there different oppo to the standing there getting smashed to pieces mid 30s fighters trying to trade at speed never going to happen
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Re: Round-by-Round: Conor Benn vs. Chris van Heerden - 16 April 2022

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margaret thatcher wrote: 16 Apr 2022, 18:31 ya, robinson fought ugas, lost every round, got dropped multiple times, then knocked out

he's won a single fight in 5 years and has boxed 3 rounds in the last 3 years

lol
Sounds perfect!
Is he cheap?
Can the DAZN team build him up to being "A step up" and "A real test"?
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Re: Round-by-Round: Conor Benn vs. Chris van Heerden - 16 April 2022

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ya i agree

it's not even the 'level' that needs to change as much as it is the style and attributes. benn's been on a neverending diet of feather fisted survialists, who are usually on the slide. these are guys who it's obvious he has nothing to worry about what's coming back at him

what is the aversion to someone with a bit of firepower and desire?
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Re: Round-by-Round: Conor Benn vs. Chris van Heerden - 16 April 2022

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KiwiRider wrote: 16 Apr 2022, 18:32
mickey1975 wrote: 16 Apr 2022, 18:22 Which hall got filled?
Johnny Hall, in the west side toilets, and I doubt it was consensual.
ha and i think it was he is a very flamboyant man
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Re: Round-by-Round: Conor Benn vs. Chris van Heerden - 16 April 2022

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margaret thatcher wrote: 16 Apr 2022, 18:30
gregregegg wrote: 16 Apr 2022, 18:28
margaret thatcher wrote: 16 Apr 2022, 18:20

lol, he could fight a corpse and im sure you'd find an argument for it :lol:
It feels that way dosent it... but na, i just hold connor to a standard fair to what i think he is...

Ray would be better than Bootses last opponent, Way better than avas last opponent, way way better than Custio Clayton last opponent. There are plenty of guys getting a way with worse with very little complaint...

I had ray beating Kelly, and he has always been tough.
i dont agree, and just for a shortcut compare how ray did vs ugas (lost every round and ko'd) to how dulorme did (1 point loss and dropped him). what is the best win robinson has?

robinson is pillow handed, old, and inactive. ffs step it up
No great wins. But two high levle draws is solid. People never give draws the credit they deserve in my opinion. Drawing with someone fringe top 10 is better than flogging someone outside the top 50.

P.s one of those draws is against someone that sparked Ava out.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Conor Benn vs. Chris van Heerden - 16 April 2022

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KiwiRider wrote: 16 Apr 2022, 18:34
margaret thatcher wrote: 16 Apr 2022, 18:31 ya, robinson fought ugas, lost every round, got dropped multiple times, then knocked out

he's won a single fight in 5 years and has boxed 3 rounds in the last 3 years

lol
Sounds perfect!
Is he cheap?
Can the DAZN team build him up to being "A step up" and "A real test"?
im sure he would be cheap, been on dazn before too
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Re: Round-by-Round: Conor Benn vs. Chris van Heerden - 16 April 2022

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gregregegg wrote: 16 Apr 2022, 18:35
margaret thatcher wrote: 16 Apr 2022, 18:30
gregregegg wrote: 16 Apr 2022, 18:28
It feels that way dosent it... but na, i just hold connor to a standard fair to what i think he is...

Ray would be better than Bootses last opponent, Way better than avas last opponent, way way better than Custio Clayton last opponent. There are plenty of guys getting a way with worse with very little complaint...

I had ray beating Kelly, and he has always been tough.
i dont agree, and just for a shortcut compare how ray did vs ugas (lost every round and ko'd) to how dulorme did (1 point loss and dropped him). what is the best win robinson has?

robinson is pillow handed, old, and inactive. ffs step it up
No great wins. But two high levle draws is solid. People never give draws the credit they deserve in my opinion. Drawing with someone fringe top 10 is better than flogging someone outside the top 50.

P.s one of those draws is against someone that sparked Ava out.
so why not just fight ava then? why the constant "better than __ did" rather than ___ themself ?

robinson should've been an opponent a couple years ago. he's just another inactive pillow hands on the slide. couldnt win a second vs ugas or porter years ago in his prime and doesnt have a single notable win.

benn's team obviously fear guys with some firepower and desire of their own, not sure why they don't have more confidence in him
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Re: Round-by-Round: Conor Benn vs. Chris van Heerden - 16 April 2022

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margaret thatcher wrote: 16 Apr 2022, 18:34 ya i agree

it's not even the 'level' that needs to change as much as it is the style and attributes. benn's been on a neverending diet of feather fisted survialists, who are usually on the slide. these are guys who it's obvious he has nothing to worry about what's coming back at him

what is the aversion to someone with a bit of firepower and desire?
there still worried after benn thought that Cedrick Peynaud i think , but every fighter from in on now can box , not just stand in front of you and get his head punched offed
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Re: Round-by-Round: Conor Benn vs. Chris van Heerden - 16 April 2022

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Benn is too open to fight Ava.
It woebe a good test of his chin, but the risk of him losing isn't worth it.
Eddie's raking it in matching Benn against pillow fisted faded names.
It's cheap, profitable and low risk.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Conor Benn vs. Chris van Heerden - 16 April 2022

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margaret thatcher wrote: 16 Apr 2022, 18:37
gregregegg wrote: 16 Apr 2022, 18:35
margaret thatcher wrote: 16 Apr 2022, 18:30

i dont agree, and just for a shortcut compare how ray did vs ugas (lost every round and ko'd) to how dulorme did (1 point loss and dropped him). what is the best win robinson has?

robinson is pillow handed, old, and inactive. ffs step it up
No great wins. But two high levle draws is solid. People never give draws the credit they deserve in my opinion. Drawing with someone fringe top 10 is better than flogging someone outside the top 50.

P.s one of those draws is against someone that sparked Ava out.
so why not just fight ava then? why the constant "better than __ did" rather than ___ themself ?

robinson should've been an opponent a couple years ago. he's just another inactive pillow hands on the slide

benn's team obviously fear guys with some firepower and desire of their own, not sure why they don't have more confidence in him
The not fight Ava is a clear risk vs reward thing. and They definatly are avoiding power.

But to be clear, Ray isnt my prefered guy. Id actualy much rather mckinson or Ava or brook. And id slighty rather Ekow or khan even.. I just think Ray in the USA in July would be fair enough. Ray in England in october would not be ok though...
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Re: Round-by-Round: Conor Benn vs. Chris van Heerden - 16 April 2022

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rocha, ava, sergey lipinets, kava, ivan golub..............one of these types of guys i'd dig for benn next

ya, ekow too if he wins his next one would at least be someone with momentum who has been winning and making it up the rankings himself . id take that any day over a bigger name who is way on the slide and obviously just gonna come to survive before being ko'd

again, it's not so much the 'level' if we are looking at the rankings i take issue with, but the fact that it's endlessly pillow hands backfooters. usually who have been inactive, old, or blown up on top of it, and are at a place in their career where their ambition is questionable

almost nothing comes back at benn
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Re: Round-by-Round: Conor Benn vs. Chris van Heerden - 16 April 2022

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they should put benn in Avanesyan next big testing fight Avanesyan hes even got a following in the uk now, they stuck josh kelly in with Avanesyan after about 9 fights , whats benn waiting for sink or swim
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Re: Round-by-Round: Conor Benn vs. Chris van Heerden - 16 April 2022

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ava is exactly the type i'd like to see benn against. doesnt necessarily have to be him - but someone with some power, who is aggressive and comes to fight, and isnt well on the slide.

no more pillow hands survivialists who give benn absolutely f@ck all to think about. he could literally box these guys with his eyes close with how little anything of note comes back at him

is benn chinny in the gym or something? i just dont get it, i think he's really good and doesnt need the coddling with these guys who cant crack eggs
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Re: Round-by-Round: Conor Benn vs. Chris van Heerden - 16 April 2022

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margaret thatcher wrote: 16 Apr 2022, 18:53 ava is exactly the type i'd like to see benn against. doesnt necessarily have to be him - but someone with some power, who is aggressive and comes to fight, and isnt well on the slide.

no more pillow hands survivialists who give benn absolutely f@ck all to think about. he could literally box these guys with his eyes close with how little anything of note comes back at him

is benn chinny in the gym or something? i just dont get it, i think he's really good and doesnt need the coddling with these guys who cant crack eggs
Cedrick Peynaud i think scared them
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Re: Round-by-Round: Conor Benn vs. Chris van Heerden - 16 April 2022

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NoScoutingReports wrote: 16 Apr 2022, 18:12
KiwiRider wrote: 16 Apr 2022, 18:11
brilo33 wrote: 16 Apr 2022, 17:54 yea david Avanesyan next tho i think its a jump kelly found that out , i would fancy Avanesyan as i think he is a really tough good fighter
I'd be shocked if they let Ava near him
Can't see it at all.
Every interview I've seen with Hearn this week he's saying Ava dont sell tickets etc, can get more money for fighting others etc. He ain't going near him.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Conor Benn vs. Chris van Heerden - 16 April 2022

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Nightmare Roy wrote: 16 Apr 2022, 19:13
NoScoutingReports wrote: 16 Apr 2022, 18:12
KiwiRider wrote: 16 Apr 2022, 18:11

I'd be shocked if they let Ava near him
Can't see it at all.
Every interview I've seen with Hearn this week he's saying Ava dont sell tickets etc, can get more money for fighting others etc. He ain't going near him.
i dont belive that ava been fighting living in notts long time i reckon he could have a few fans
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Re: Round-by-Round: Conor Benn vs. Chris van Heerden - 16 April 2022

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The Ava fight would do good business because of the Connor fans and the Connor haters. Both would be very keen to see how the fight goes.

Although fuking hell Ava gotta be doing better than Metz to be complaining about not getting the specific fight he wants.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Conor Benn vs. Chris van Heerden - 16 April 2022

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hell, maybe over the next 3 years he shouldnt even complete a full round, then he might earn a fight with conor like chris did

ava's beaten kelly and kermy, who i would take over any of benn's opponents at the stage he fought them. hell, old mosley maybe even does. if we are talking earning a fight, he's already done plenty, but of course there's nothing to force the fight like a mandatory, so ava's team should stop obsessing over it
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Re: Round-by-Round: Conor Benn vs. Chris van Heerden - 16 April 2022

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margaret thatcher wrote: 16 Apr 2022, 19:39 hell, maybe over the next 3 years he shouldnt even complete a full round, then he might earn a fight with conor like chris did
give 3 years he can fight Breidis Prescott , wheres Ruslan Provodnikov , lucky tommy coyle has retired. soz thought u ment benn
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Re: Round-by-Round: Conor Benn vs. Chris van Heerden - 16 April 2022

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margaret thatcher wrote: 16 Apr 2022, 19:39 hell, maybe over the next 3 years he shouldnt even complete a full round, then he might earn a fight with conor like chris did

ava's beaten kelly and kermy, who i would take over any of benn's opponents at the stage he fought them. hell, old mosley maybe even does. if we are talking earning a fight, he's already done plenty, but of course there's nothing to force the fight like a mandatory, so ava's team should stop obsessing over it
ava is going to get another shot at a world title , noway will benn want to face him no chance
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Re: Round-by-Round: Conor Benn vs. Chris van Heerden - 16 April 2022

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It’s poor form calling out Khan
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