Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte | BT PPV - 23 April 2022

[polecateddy]

Well for my money he’s firmly on the Naz route of believing his own hype, coasting on his natural ability and no longer training properly. I suspect he’s going to look absolutely awful against Whyte.

[Twinkle Toes]

You would think the way some people go on that Fury is impossible to hit. Truth is, if a boxer (lol) like Wilder can land leather then anyone can. I'm not sure what we will see next week, Fury is a big favourite. It's still a good fight though.

Whyte is a vulnerable fighter himself. He's been over a few times. Both boys are into their 30's and their age will become a factor at some point, and it might be this fight. It definitely adds another element.

It could be a slop fest though. A lot of people have gone on record stating that Fury's game is now that he is more of a puncher and is prepared to take one to land one. If that's the case Whyte has his shot, because he will land at some point.

[Dioufy]

Look at the 6 times Fury has been down.
Anyone who is half-decent has a chance against him; they just need to composure to follow it up.

Tyson has a tremendous chin but I can see him getting knocked out the fight if he makes the mistakes of fights’ past (Nevan Piejik??, Cunningham).

More like if Whyte gets his chance he will fornicate it up.

[joshj909]

Look at the 6 times Fury has been down.
Anyone who is half-decent has a chance against him; they just need to composure to follow it up.

Tyson has a tremendous chin but I can see him getting knocked out the fight if he makes the mistakes of fights’ past (Nevan Piejik??, Cunningham).

More like if Whyte gets his chance he will fornicate it up.

I don't think Fury has a tremendous chin as you say. If anything his chin is probably average. The differences are that he doesn't get hit clean that often and his recovery is the best i've seen from a heavyweight.

Whyte gets hit clean quite frequently and the shots that have put him out would've taken out most guys. His chin is not awful but it's worse than Fury's and he doesn't have the same defence. His recovery is not the best though but he's managed to make it to the end after going down against Parker and Rivas.

[Dioufy]

Tyson’s chin is exceptional imo. Being put down isn’t an indicator of a bad chin; it’s how you recover from knockdowns and how quickly you get your composure back.
6 times Fury has been down and each time he’s gotten up and been able to fight back.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Tyson has more heart than chin.

I think his chin is good though.. you talk about getting dropped; but it’s heavyweight boxing.

If someone over 220 pounds is gonna punch you in the face, you might fall down, regardless of how big or small you are.

[polecateddy]

Tyson has more heart than chin.

I think his chin is good though.. you talk about getting dropped; but it’s heavyweight boxing.

If someone over 220 pounds is gonna punch you in the face, you might fall down, regardless of how big or small you are.

Unless you're called Oliver McCall, and then you don't fall down.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Tyson has more heart than chin.

I think his chin is good though.. you talk about getting dropped; but it’s heavyweight boxing.

If someone over 220 pounds is gonna punch you in the face, you might fall down, regardless of how big or small you are.

Unless you're called Oliver McCall, and then you don't fall down.

Yeh.

It’s probably a very small percentage of HW world champions of the present and past that have been knocked down or even knocked out.

[Dioufy]

Tyson has more heart than chin.

I think his chin is good though.. you talk about getting dropped; but it’s heavyweight boxing.

If someone over 220 pounds is gonna punch you in the face, you might fall down, regardless of how big or small you are.

Who in the last 10 years would you say have a better chin than Fury?

[Ruthless-RKO]

Tyson has more heart than chin.

I think his chin is good though.. you talk about getting dropped; but it’s heavyweight boxing.

If someone over 220 pounds is gonna punch you in the face, you might fall down, regardless of how big or small you are.

Who in the last 10 years would you say have a better chin than Fury?

Not a lot of boxers have shown good chins.

You’d have to have been hit with a good shot as well.

I wouldn’t rate chins as in, ‘he has a better chin than him’ along them lines.

Off top of my head, Parker has shown a good chin in his fights. He can really absorb them.

Just like Joyce has shown good chin, but he hasn’t fought the best either, so it’s still a ‘who knows’..

Like I said, I think Fury has a good chin also.

[Dioufy]

But it’s the same argument you used against me. Was put down by Chisora and twice against Whyte (although one was cuffing).
All the shots Tyson has been put down with have been huge. Even cruiser Cunningham landed probably one of the best shots he’s ever thrown.
Tyson definitely has one of the best chins I’ve seen at top-level heavyweight boxing in the 20 years I’ve been watching.
Vitali being the ultimate bench mark in that time.

[polecateddy]

Tyson has more heart than chin.

I think his chin is good though.. you talk about getting dropped; but it’s heavyweight boxing.

If someone over 220 pounds is gonna punch you in the face, you might fall down, regardless of how big or small you are.

Who in the last 10 years would you say have a better chin than Fury?

Vitali Klitschko was still active 10 years ago. Touché!

[Dioufy]

Tyson has more heart than chin.

I think his chin is good though.. you talk about getting dropped; but it’s heavyweight boxing.

If someone over 220 pounds is gonna punch you in the face, you might fall down, regardless of how big or small you are.

Who in the last 10 years would you say have a better chin than Fury?

Vitali Klitschko was still active 10 years ago. Touché!

Ok… name me one in the last 9 years and 6 months then…

[joshj909]

Who in the last 10 years would you say have a better chin than Fury?

Vitali Klitschko was still active 10 years ago. Touché!

Ok… name me one in the last 9 years and 6 months then…

Wach without a doubt. A few others to consider that jump to mind are Dave Allen? Kingpin Johnson? Hughie? Tua? No doubt a fair few others but not championship level.

[knockout]

Who in the last 10 years would you say have a better chin than Fury?

Vitali Klitschko was still active 10 years ago. Touché!

Ok… name me one in the last 9 years and 6 months then…

Hard to quantify chin strength but last ten years Wach had a very good chin ( until he got ancient )

Mayor Vitali has a great chin for sure, also helped by the awkwardness he had. Probably only got hit with a good shot a handful of times in his professional career. Against an all time great in Lewis ( that upper cut was monstrous) and against speedsters Hide and Saunders who despite their other flaws could bang. I can’t recall anyone else catching him with anything very clean.

[Blueprint]

Fury - whyte press conference should be interesting.

[margaret thatcher]

ya wach for sure, even in his last fight, well past it, it took an absolute shellacking of flush loaded up haymakers for him to go down, and he actually beat the count and was clear headed

allen too, for all his limitations, dude took plenty of shots from big punchers without going down


fury has been down/hurt much more than these guys have. fury's chin isnt all that good in terms of getting hurt iin the first place, but his recovery is very good. every time he's been hurt or dropped, he comes right back strong

from memory, fury's been hurt or dropped by pajkic, firtha, cunn, chisora (round 2 first fight), wallin (round 12), wilder. that's plenty, but every case like i said he came right back and won the next round or the rest of the round

[Dioufy]

Fury has been hit flush by one of the heaviest handed heavyweights in history imo (and its natural power as Deontay could make cruiser; or before he bulked up) and got up.
The 2 knockdowns before Wilder were the same punch; a shot any taller fighter should be fearful of - the looping overhand right.
Not saying he’s indestructible. I even said Whyte is capable of knocking him out, but Fury’s chin is very good.
If he ever does get knocked out it’ll come from an absolute peach that could knock out a dinosaur.

[Dioufy]

He’s been down 6 times only.
4x Wilder.
1x Paijik - or whatever
1x Cunningham.

[margaret thatcher]

ya, but the guys with the absolute best chins havent been down at all or only a few times, or rocked several others. fury's chin defo isnt the best in the last decade, but clearly with his recovery he'll be hard to stop, he's been very reliable in fighting back even stronger after getting buzzed. im more curious actually about how he'd react to someone targetting his growing gut and landing there consistently

body punching at heavy weight is almost a lost art though, fury himself is one of the better at this, at least earlier in his career he did a lot of good body work

[Dioufy]

ya, but the guys with the absolute best chins havent been down at all or only a few times, or rocked several others. fury's chin defo isnt the best in the last decade, but clearly with his recovery he'll be hard to stop, he's been very reliable in fighting back even stronger after getting buzzed.

Fury could be down in every fight since McDermott and as long as he recovers as quickly and is seemingly alright and never close to being stopped I’d consider him to have a good chin.

He’s been in with Klit, Wilder x3, Del x2, amongst other stern tests. Comparing his chin with Dave Allen is not what I’d do but that’s cool.

I’ll go as far as saying that he’s not got the best chin over the last decade, and maybe not top 5 but it’s solid enough that it’s going to take something ballistic to break it.

[margaret thatcher]

dave allen has been with ortiz and whyte and big punching price (counted pov, thompson, hammer), never been down or close to it. he may be limited but he's fought genuine high level bangers himself. his chin is the one thing that is actually really really good

fury hardly took anything vs wlad, was hardly a wlad-wach chin display

but fury will be tough to stop no doubt, he's never stayed hurt for long

[Dioufy]

dave allen has been with ortiz and whyte and big punching price, never been down or close to it. he may be limited but he's fought genuine high level bangers himself. his chin is the one thing that is actually really really good

fury hardly took anything vs wlad

Ultimately Dave Allen is 5(3) on his losses. For me that’s hard to compare with Fury.
Allen has a good chin… but I can’t solidly compare them as they have completely different careers.

[margaret thatcher]

his losses are because he's a very limited fighter, dont see how that shows his chin is anything less than iron. he took loads of clean shots from these guys, the types that had fury planted on his ass vs lesser punchers

[polecateddy]

It’s a bit weird in a way to suggest a fighter who gets floored a lot has a great chin. It was almost expected that Pernell Whittaker and Felix Trinadad would get off the canvas unscathed nearly every fight. People didn’t say they had iron chins, just great powers of recovery.