Errol Spence Jr vs Terence Crawford - Anytime anyplace anywhere

Who do you see this?

Spence - Decision
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22%
Spence - T/KO
3
7%
Draw
1
2%
Crawford - T/KO
16
36%
Crawford - Decision
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33%
Not sure
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Total votes: 45

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margaret thatcher wrote: 17 Apr 2022, 20:25
Bandog wrote: 17 Apr 2022, 20:23
KiwiRider wrote: 17 Apr 2022, 19:37

Yes I get that, watched it a few times too, but I am referring to the punch that knocked the mouth guard out and buckled Spence.
There were a few other times in the fight Spence was buzzed. My point is that those times - if it was Crawford - Spence would have been in a world of trouble, if not out for the count.
So Crawford KO is how I see it.
Remember this was Spence's 2nd fight in 2 years. When you get to this level, you will get hit, buzzed, etc. It happened to Crawford vs Gamboa, and even one or two other times. Ugas is at least as big of a puncher as Crawford. What I'm saying is don't bet the farm based on Spenc's chin. It's been solid so far, against tougher competition than Crawford has seen.

craw is defo a bigger puncher than ugas, ugas has only 12 stoppages in 32 fights and hasnt even scored a knockdown in about 4 years. crawford has 29 stoppages in 38 fights (over double the ko rate of ugas) and stopped/dropped everyone he's faced over the last 6 years.

common opponents porter and dulorme - ugas couldnt stop either, craw stopped both

ugas is lacking power if anything for a top level fighter, craw isnt
Better bet on Bud then. I like both, but aside from Spence getting KOd, I think Spence basically beats Bud up. No way does Bud win on points vs the relentless Spence.

Let's hop Bud doesn't price himself out.
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caldo2025 wrote: 17 Apr 2022, 20:34 The best part is that I think that this will end up being both Spence & Bud’s last fight at 147 before moving up. Which means that we are bound to get at least 1 more or 2 more fights together at 154 & 160 before they hang up the gloves and get inducted into HOF.

Greatest fight matchup since Hagler/Leonard.
Dear god your optimistic.... I am on the fence about it happening at 147, your forecasting a 3 weight trillogy. Hope your right.
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Bandog wrote: 17 Apr 2022, 21:28
margaret thatcher wrote: 17 Apr 2022, 20:25
Bandog wrote: 17 Apr 2022, 20:23

Remember this was Spence's 2nd fight in 2 years. When you get to this level, you will get hit, buzzed, etc. It happened to Crawford vs Gamboa, and even one or two other times. Ugas is at least as big of a puncher as Crawford. What I'm saying is don't bet the farm based on Spenc's chin. It's been solid so far, against tougher competition than Crawford has seen.

craw is defo a bigger puncher than ugas, ugas has only 12 stoppages in 32 fights and hasnt even scored a knockdown in about 4 years. crawford has 29 stoppages in 38 fights (over double the ko rate of ugas) and stopped/dropped everyone he's faced over the last 6 years.

common opponents porter and dulorme - ugas couldnt stop either, craw stopped both

ugas is lacking power if anything for a top level fighter, craw isnt
Better bet on Bud then. I like both, but aside from Spence getting KOd, I think Spence basically beats Bud up. No way does Bud win on points vs the relentless Spence.
im picking spence bruh

bud easily punches harder than ugas though, stupid to suggest otherwise. ffs ugas hasnt even dropped anyone in about 4 years :lol:

you know, it's possible to pick spence without resorting to dumb sh!t like that
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caldo2025 wrote: 17 Apr 2022, 20:34 The best part is that I think that this will end up being both Spence & Bud’s last fight at 147 before moving up. Which means that we are bound to get at least 1 more or 2 more fights together at 154 & 160 before they hang up the gloves and get inducted into HOF.

Greatest fight matchup since Hagler/Leonard.
I always thought we’d definitely have these two fight at the 154 division..

Let’s have the 147 fight and can always do a rematch a few fights later at 154..
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lol, yall dudes talking about rematches already when we been waiting on this fight for years and its still never happened

how about they actually fight once first
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margaret thatcher wrote: 17 Apr 2022, 22:52 lol, yall dudes talking about rematches already when we been waiting on this fight for years and its still never happened

how about they actually fight once first
HOF for Spence is an even bigger joke. The guy only has two significant wins so far and he is at the tail end of his career
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If Crawford catches Spence like Ugas did, Bud will definitely take more advantages out of this, since he doesn't only have more power, but also he possesses a one of the sharpest killer instincts.
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I think Spence has good chance to outbox Crawford if he will not catch him. But if Ugas was able to catch him, Crawford will too. And just like guys above me said, Crawford has one of best finishings in boxing.

Btw was Crawford hurt in some of his fights? ...I saw him being outboxed in rounds but never saw him hurt. On the other side i saw Spence being hurt, but never saw him being outboxed
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kava rocked him
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Cent0089 wrote: 18 Apr 2022, 03:53 I think Spence has good chance to outbox Crawford if he will not catch him. But if Ugas was able to catch him, Crawford will too. And just like guys above me said, Crawford has one of best finishings in boxing.

Btw was Crawford hurt in some of his fights? ...I saw him being outboxed in rounds but never saw him hurt. On the other side i saw Spence being hurt, but never saw him being outboxed
I’m surprised you are saying that Spence can outbox Crawford - in my mind, Spence’s key to victory are to out-work/out-maul Crawford.

I’ve also not seen Crawford outboxed. At times he’s been caught with counters when he’s been on the front foot but I doubt Spence would take a counter-punching patient approach. I imagine Spence will come straight at Crawford and Crawford will assume the counter puncher and back foot position.
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kell brook outboxed them both for 3 rounds :yay:
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margaret thatcher wrote: 18 Apr 2022, 05:16 kell brook outboxed them both for 3 rounds :yay:
Credit to Kell, I thought he did very well against Spence. I guess he had his moments against Crawford too.
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kell was up on the cards when crawford beat him with the come from behind stoppage :OhYes:
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margaret thatcher wrote: 18 Apr 2022, 05:23 kell was up on the cards when crawford beat him with the come from behind stoppage :OhYes:
Also, Golovkin was never the same after he fought Kell.
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exactly, kell outboxed his arse for 3 rounds too :bag:
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The thing about boxing though, is that it is a 12 rd fight, and rounds are scored on the popularity and commercial value of the fighter rather than what a fighter does in 3 rounds or all 12 rounds so…the point is moot.
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lazboy wrote: 18 Apr 2022, 05:09
Cent0089 wrote: 18 Apr 2022, 03:53 I think Spence has good chance to outbox Crawford if he will not catch him. But if Ugas was able to catch him, Crawford will too. And just like guys above me said, Crawford has one of best finishings in boxing.

Btw was Crawford hurt in some of his fights? ...I saw him being outboxed in rounds but never saw him hurt. On the other side i saw Spence being hurt, but never saw him being outboxed
I’m surprised you are saying that Spence can outbox Crawford - in my mind, Spence’s key to victory are to out-work/out-maul Crawford.

I’ve also not seen Crawford outboxed. At times he’s been caught with counters when he’s been on the front foot but I doubt Spence would take a counter-punching patient approach. I imagine Spence will come straight at Crawford and Crawford will assume the counter puncher and back foot position.
I was thinking winning on points. Outboxing did not mean only sticking and moving, but overall better fighting. I was saying Spence can win this on points if Crawford would not able to hurt him. I am not from english speaking country sorry :D :box: :box: :box:
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I often put draw because I want to see what everyone else thinks and not mess up the percentages, but I really think this will be a draw...

I'm in love with Bud, so possibly biased, but, I thought he was easily outpointing 'ShowTime'. The judges didn't. :maybe:
Against 'The Truth't it''ll likely be close, go to the cards and some judges will like Spence's flashier work, probably with a bit more volume. Others prefer El Tel's nastier, precision.
And a good draw would be great for business and sell a second fight.

So it's draw for me.
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lazboy wrote: 18 Apr 2022, 05:27
margaret thatcher wrote: 18 Apr 2022, 05:23 kell was up on the cards when crawford beat him with the come from behind stoppage :OhYes:
Also, Golovkin was never the same after he fought Kell.
Lololol. Oh yeah, Kell really damaged GGG in those 2 four punch combinations that he scored in the first 2 rounds before GGG ruined Kelly’s face and career.

Newsflash-GGG barely worked a sweat up against Brook AND Spence wasn’t even close to hurt against Ugas during that mouth piece garbage. Man, you people are making so much over nothing. That was an absolute drubbing.
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These 2 could easily do a trilogy. Millions of dollars on the table.

Make it happen already.
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caldo2025 wrote: 18 Apr 2022, 09:29
lazboy wrote: 18 Apr 2022, 05:27
margaret thatcher wrote: 18 Apr 2022, 05:23 kell was up on the cards when crawford beat him with the come from behind stoppage :OhYes:
Also, Golovkin was never the same after he fought Kell.
Lololol. Oh yeah, Kell really damaged GGG in those 2 four punch combinations that he scored in the first 2 rounds before GGG ruined Kelly’s face and career.

Newsflash-GGG barely worked a sweat up against Brook AND Spence wasn’t even close to hurt against Ugas during that mouth piece garbage. Man, you people are making so much over nothing. That was an absolute drubbing.
Spence blamed himself for the mouthpiece snafu. Btw I read Ugas has a fractured orbital bone. Looks like Spence is back, and ready for Bud.
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Cent0089 wrote: 18 Apr 2022, 06:41
lazboy wrote: 18 Apr 2022, 05:09
Cent0089 wrote: 18 Apr 2022, 03:53 I think Spence has good chance to outbox Crawford if he will not catch him. But if Ugas was able to catch him, Crawford will too. And just like guys above me said, Crawford has one of best finishings in boxing.

Btw was Crawford hurt in some of his fights? ...I saw him being outboxed in rounds but never saw him hurt. On the other side i saw Spence being hurt, but never saw him being outboxed
I’m surprised you are saying that Spence can outbox Crawford - in my mind, Spence’s key to victory are to out-work/out-maul Crawford.

I’ve also not seen Crawford outboxed. At times he’s been caught with counters when he’s been on the front foot but I doubt Spence would take a counter-punching patient approach. I imagine Spence will come straight at Crawford and Crawford will assume the counter puncher and back foot position.
I was thinking winning on points. Outboxing did not mean only sticking and moving, but overall better fighting. I was saying Spence can win this on points if Crawford would not able to hurt him. I am not from english speaking country sorry :D :box: :box: :box:
All good man!
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caldo2025 wrote: 17 Apr 2022, 20:34 The best part is that I think that this will end up being both Spence & Bud’s last fight at 147 before moving up. Which means that we are bound to get at least 1 more or 2 more fights together at 154 & 160 before they hang up the gloves and get inducted into HOF.

Greatest fight matchup since Hagler/Leonard.
It's curious, but watching Spence in this fight, I found myself imagining him going up to 160 and taking on Golovkin.

GGG seems to susceptible to a body attack and there's probably no better body puncher than Spence in the sport.
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Syntax Error wrote: 17 Apr 2022, 05:06 It's probably hyperbole to say it's the biggest fight at 147 since Leonard V Hearns, but I am struggling to think of any bigger.
What division was Mayweather - Pacquiao at? Because that fight was like 20 times bigger. Each of Mayweather and Pacquiao were unanimously recognized as p4p #1 for multiple years. Each of them had done multiple 1 million+ ppv buy shows. When they fought each other, they pulled 4.6 million buys. It was a $600 million match-up, and the fighters were paid around $350 million combined. If Spence fought Crawford, they would probably each take home $25-40 million, and the show would probably do something like 1 million buys. When Spence and Crawford fight regular contenders, they do 135-250 thousand ppv buys. Neither one has ever broke 400,000 buys. Even Spence vs Mikey Garcia made less than $20 million total revenue, and Mikey Garcia was hailed at a very hyped top 5 p4p fighter.
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Lackeos wrote: 19 Apr 2022, 01:35
Syntax Error wrote: 17 Apr 2022, 05:06 It's probably hyperbole to say it's the biggest fight at 147 since Leonard V Hearns, but I am struggling to think of any bigger.
What division was Mayweather - Pacquiao at? Because that fight was like 20 times bigger. Each of Mayweather and Pacquiao were unanimously recognized as p4p #1 for multiple years. Each of them had done multiple 1 million+ ppv buy shows. When they fought each other, they pulled 4.6 million buys. It was a $600 million match-up, and the fighters were paid around $350 million combined. If Spence fought Crawford, they would probably each take home $25-40 million, and the show would probably do something like 1 million buys. When Spence and Crawford fight regular contenders, they do 135-250 thousand ppv buys. Neither one has ever broke 400,000 buys. Even Spence vs Mikey Garcia made less than $20 million total revenue, and Mikey Garcia was hailed at a very hyped top 5 p4p fighter.
In assuming the poster just clean forgot Floyd Pac...it was real massive, like worlds apart from anything...

I was living in Canada at the time , couldn't get into any pub, they were all packed with people that have zero interest in boxing 99% of the time. I was standing with my head pressed up against a window in the snow with 50 other people, when U looked across the road at another pub every inch of window there had someone's head pressed up against it watching.

Spence vs craw is huge, but not many are Gunna cop frostbite for it.
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