"margaret thatcher" wrote: ↑18 Apr 2022, 04:41
it's respectable but not great. he's been rocked and dropped several times, including by featherfists. to think he's even close to having the best chin in the last decade is just waaaaaaay off to me
his recovery and ability to survive when hurt are very good though
The two overhand rights landed that put him over where nothing to do with his chin. It was to do with fundamental mistakes which he has rectified. Defence issues.
The bogey of all tall fighters; Wlad had the same issue early days.
Pulling back with your chin up. I’m 5’8 and 160lbs and when I sparred taller fighters (always the case) I was told to try to look for the punch.
When was the Cunningham fight? 2015?
Respectable is a little harsh for me but it’s your opinion. I respect it you stalker pudendum.
that's actually why i dont think he was totally out vs wilder either like some people believe, he'd done it before just staring at the sky. i think it's his way of collecting himself
Realistically Wilder should have stopped Fury in one of those fights. But he lacked the skills to follow up effectively and Fury survived. Tyson is bound to be similarly hurt, perhaps even in this next fight, and the follow up might end up being a lot more accurate and finish him off.
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑18 Apr 2022, 04:50
dude took those shots then lay back staring upwards like oh sh!t, he felt those punches for sure, not balance or flash kds at all
look here vs cunn for example, he's laying there for several seconds, those were legit pretty hard kds, not balance or flash . i do think he was still in full control of himself, but defo he felt those shots and was hurt
Video won’t load but it’s okay… I’ve seen it many times before.
You said flash and balance twice now. I never said that.
I said basic fundamental defence mistakes which he seemingly has now rectified.
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑18 Apr 2022, 05:06
i mean, any punch that lands could be excused as a defensive issue, dude didnt avoid the shot lol
That’s a strange argument for sure. You can genuinely see the mistake I’m constantly alluding to. It was the same against Paijik.
I’ve seen all Fury fights since he fought that tiny cruiser and the weird German with a cracking record in his first two fights.
I can honestly say he’s put right the danger of being a tall fighter with the overhand right.
So even when he makes such an obvious mistake and gets hit very flush and very hard.. the man’s chin gets him out of bother.
Normally with a fight I’m not bothered about, come fight week I’m normally coming round to it. With this fight I’m not bothered in the slightest Whyte is bang average and fury wins at a canter
smiling assassin wrote: ↑18 Apr 2022, 10:11
Normally with a fight I’m not bothered about, come fight week I’m normally coming round to it. With this fight I’m not bothered in the slightest Whyte is bang average and fury wins at a canter
Ridiculous.
It’s a good fight. You’re probably looking at Whyte’s record and ruling him out on his losses.
He will bring something completely different for Fury and stands a good chance.
If you aren’t excited about this fight you aren’t much of a boxing fan.
smiling assassin wrote: ↑18 Apr 2022, 10:11
Normally with a fight I’m not bothered about, come fight week I’m normally coming round to it. With this fight I’m not bothered in the slightest Whyte is bang average and fury wins at a canter
Ridiculous.
It’s a good fight. You’re probably looking at Whyte’s record and ruling him out on his losses.
He will bring something completely different for Fury and stands a good chance.
If you aren’t excited about this fight you aren’t much of a boxing fan.
To be fair mate in recent times I’m not a massive boxing fan as I think the sport has become a bit of a joke. The heavyweight division is very poor with a big gulf in class between the top boys and those in behind, with Whyte being one of those fighters behind. Whyte has had 2 life and death fights with Chisora, stopped by Joshua and was ran very close by Parker. He’s not on fury’s level
smiling assassin wrote: ↑18 Apr 2022, 10:11
Normally with a fight I’m not bothered about, come fight week I’m normally coming round to it. With this fight I’m not bothered in the slightest Whyte is bang average and fury wins at a canter
Ridiculous.
It’s a good fight. You’re probably looking at Whyte’s record and ruling him out on his losses.
He will bring something completely different for Fury and stands a good chance.
If you aren’t excited about this fight you aren’t much of a boxing fan.
To be fair mate in recent times I’m not a massive boxing fan as I think the sport has become a bit of a joke. The heavyweight division is very poor with a big gulf in class between the top boys and those in behind, with Whyte being one of those fighters behind. Whyte has had 2 life and death fights with Chisora, stopped by Joshua and was ran very close by Parker. He’s not on fury’s level
Yeah, fair enough.
The Chisora fights were not good, but one ended savagely and the other was a draw.
He dominated Parker… until the last round.
Joshua did steamroll him but I’d like to think he’s a different fighter now.
Povetkin caught him with the best punch I’ve ever seen in a British ring but then he put that one right.
Despite that… I think Whyte can win this. Will he? I don’t think so but who knows.
The Povetkin punch was a peach no doubting that mate. I hope your wrong mate as I do want to see Fury against Usyk or Joshua and a Whyte win would hinder that but can’t see Whyte giving Fury too many problems
Whytes bad but I don't rate fury either. Any great heavyweight would have cleaned wilder out. Wilder has no jab, just one punch. Imagine what Lennox would have done there. Holyfield, Bowe etc. The Wlad fight was a whole lot of nothing happening. Been dropped a ton, and given problems. Whyte blows but hes game. I expect a competitive fight and I can see Whyte winning. I'm going to go with a prediction of Whyte winning a decision. I wonder if the judging might be against Fury with all the big news recently. Only problem with Whyte winning is the next two fights will be rematches
TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑18 Apr 2022, 14:40
Whytes bad but I don't rate fury either. Any great heavyweight would have cleaned wilder out. Wilder has no jab, just one punch. Imagine what Lennox would have done there. Holyfield, Bowe etc. The Wlad fight was a whole lot of nothing happening. Been dropped a ton, and given problems. Whyte blows but hes game. I expect a competitive fight and I can see Whyte winning. I'm going to go with a prediction of Whyte winning a decision. I wonder if the judging might be against Fury with all the big news recently. Only problem with Whyte winning is the next two fights will be rematches
polecateddy wrote: ↑18 Apr 2022, 04:56
Realistically Wilder should have stopped Fury in one of those fights. But he lacked the skills to follow up effectively and Fury survived. Tyson is bound to be similarly hurt, perhaps even in this next fight, and the follow up might end up being a lot more accurate and finish him off.
That 4th rnd in the 3rd Wilder fight Furys legs were gone after he was knocked down the 1st time ... it was a cuffing punch that put him on the canvass the 2nd time; someone with more skill and technique than Wilder would have got Fury out of there.
The Wilder fights are over flattering Fury.
Whyte has more than a punchers chance against Fury. Whyte has some serious faults, but he is fit and hits hard enough to put Fury down. All that fat that Fury carries is gonna be a hindrance when he clocks a big punch against someone who knows how to follow up on it.
I've decided not to pay for this one.
After much deliberation, my conclusion is that it just isn't worth it.
If it turns out to be some epic battle, or mega upset I will just watch it later on line for free.
Fwank dropped the ball on this, it's just a fight, not the event it could have been.
In my view Whyte is less of a fighter than he was when he fought Joshua. Older, not noticeably improved, and a bit more punchy. So to pay to see Fury face a lesser version of one of AJ's vanquished opponents doesn't make sense to me.
A good co main event would have swayed me, but it is just a low buget card with a high budget price tag.
polecateddy wrote: ↑18 Apr 2022, 04:56
Realistically Wilder should have stopped Fury in one of those fights. But he lacked the skills to follow up effectively and Fury survived. Tyson is bound to be similarly hurt, perhaps even in this next fight, and the follow up might end up being a lot more accurate and finish him off.
That 4th rnd in the 3rd Wilder fight Furys legs were gone after he was knocked down the 1st time ... it was a cuffing punch that put him on the canvass the 2nd time; someone with more skill and technique than Wilder would have got Fury out of there.
The Wilder fights are over flattering Fury.
Whyte has more than a punchers chance against Fury. Whyte has some serious faults, but he is fit and hits hard enough to put Fury down. All that fat that Fury carries is gonna be a hindrance when he clocks a big punch against someone who knows how to follow up on it.
Wilder is someone who pretty much lost every round of his last 5-6 fights except for the rounds he scored knockdowns/kos. He's terrible. The division is so poor that he is competitive at the top. Fury is not a guy who would have been competitive with Lennox or any of those top 90s heavyweights. Either is Wilder. People are talking as if he's in a different league to Whyte. I don't see it.
