Gaurantee Wilder will duck Chisora

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Wilder if he was a true fighter, not a fake one, would want to come back asap and prove he's still a force and still can improve. But Wilder is a protected fraud and he's destroyed. Like Humpty Dumpty.

Told you wilder was going to hide from Chisora. It shows how bad wilder really is if he can't even muster the confidence to fight a second rate contender that everyone believes to be shot and finished. Chisora would beat Wilder today yesterday two years ago and five years ago. Chisora is a real fighter, Wilder was a protected pretender.
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Thomastearns wrote: 25 Feb 2022, 12:43Right now Wilder is ducking everyone.
At this point in time, people are speculating about Wilder’s likelihood to retire from the sport.

Any fighter either contemplating retirement or is actually retired isn’t “ducking” anyone. They don't want to fight.

That said, Wilder’s weak resume, coupled with him rejecting bouts against Whyte and Joshua, strongly-suggests he has previously ducked his big-name rivals (or was at least instructed to do so by Al Haymon).
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Enlightened-One wrote: 01 Mar 2022, 10:23
Thomastearns wrote: 25 Feb 2022, 12:43Right now Wilder is ducking everyone.
At this point in time, people are speculating about Wilder’s likelihood to retire from the sport.

Any fighter either contemplating retirement or is actually retired isn’t “ducking” anyone. They don't want to fight.

That said, Wilder’s weak resume, coupled with him rejecting bouts against Whyte and Joshua, strongly-suggests he has previously ducked his big-name rivals (or was at least instructed to do so by Al Haymon).
Wilder isn't really thinking retirement, it's just that he has no big or decent money options except to wait for AJ to beat Usyk and then be sacrificed to AJ for the big payday and hope he lands the billion to one home run shot which he won't.

Wilder is a broke shattered finished fighter, anyone can beat him now, Chisora, Whyte, even Parker Dubois Joyce or Hrgovic. They know Wilder has nothing left. They know making wilder fake KO another PBC patsy like Kownacki or Breazeale will lose money. All there is left for Wilder is to wait for the AJ payday. Until then they will try to keep wilder in the news with some press release stories like doing yoga meditation, or changing diet or some other BS.

As I told you Wilder would run away from Chisora's challenge. Because he's nothing.
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Of course Wilder will duck Chizza. Big risk for little reward.
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IRONFIST wrote: 01 Mar 2022, 11:06 Of course Wilder will duck Chizza. Big risk for little reward.
To be fair, Chisora is a big name.

People in the UK tune in to his fights, because he's exciting to watch. He also knows how to sell events. He has a certain amount of mainstream crossover appeal.

You could argue that the likes of Usyk, Fury, Whyte and Parker owe a certain amount of their commercial success to Del Boy.

And let’s not forget the likes of Klitschko and Haye probably would have struggled to orchestrate as commercially successful PPV events had they faced anyone else other than Chisora on those nights.

The problem for Wilder though, is that the PBC prefer to stage in-house events or work with free agents that agree to immediate rematch clauses.

So if Wilder doesn’t fight Chisora, it won’t be because the American considers Del Boy as being a high-risk low-reward type fighter.

If anything, Chisora is a moderate risk high-reward fighter.
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Wilder was always hugely overrated - it's only getting his ass handed to him twice by Fury, that brought Wilder up to speed on the limits of his abilities.
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jamesmcdonnell wrote: 01 Mar 2022, 13:28 Wilder was always hugely overrated - it's only getting his ass handed to him twice by Fury, that brought Wilder up to speed on the limits of his abilities.
Wilder is Seth Mitchell with much better protection.
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Wilder is boring to watch, maybe that's it? :lol:
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Bandog wrote: 01 Mar 2022, 20:25 Wilder is boring to watch, maybe that's it? :lol:
Yes when he's matched with PBC hired patsies, he's incredibly boring to watch, because you know it's rigged for him to win.

Only three times in his life was Wilder put into a real fight where the opponent was not rigged - Fury 3 fights. Actually the first was a rigged draw. Every other wilder fight was a rigged skit. Ortiz stiverne scott breazeale szpilka washington etc all rigged. Only a rigged fraud would duck AJ for $120m.
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Not a Wilder fan but why does he even need to fight Chisora?

Wouldn't exactly call this a duck just because Chisora calls him out.
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Enlightened-One wrote: 01 Mar 2022, 12:33
IRONFIST wrote: 01 Mar 2022, 11:06 Of course Wilder will duck Chizza. Big risk for little reward.
To be fair, Chisora is a big name.

People in the UK tune in to his fights, because he's exciting to watch. He also knows how to sell events. He has a certain amount of mainstream crossover appeal.

You could argue that the likes of Usyk, Fury, Whyte and Parker owe a certain amount of their commercial success to Del Boy.

And let’s not forget the likes of Klitschko and Haye probably would have struggled to orchestrate as commercially successful PPV events had they faced anyone else other than Chisora on those nights.

The problem for Wilder though, is that the PBC prefer to stage in-house events or work with free agents that agree to immediate rematch clauses.

So if Wilder doesn’t fight Chisora, it won’t be because the American considers Del Boy as being a high-risk low-reward type fighter.

If anything, Chisora is a moderate risk high-reward fighter.
I know Chizza is a big name but too big a risk for Wilder. He'd give Wilder hell with his style, I'd back him to stop Wilder. Chizza gave Usyk a tougher fight than Joshua did.

As it happens if Usyk is busy with the Ukraine situation, maybe they could put Wilder straight in with Joshua for the belts.
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wilder might not even fight again, he doesn't have a belt, doesnt have a rematch to give someone , etc. he's at a point where theres really no one he can be ducking. there is no 'it has to happen' type of fight out there for him now

if ruiz beats ortiz, wilder-ruiz is the obvious fight for pbc if wilder continues
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margaret thatcher wrote: 16 Apr 2022, 07:49 wilder might not even fight again, he doesn't have a belt, doesnt have a rematch to give someone , etc. he's at a point where theres really no one he can be ducking. there is no 'it has to happen' type of fight out there for him now

if ruiz beats ortiz, wilder-ruiz is the obvious fight for pbc if wilder continues
I think Wilder should take a year off, work with Larry Holmes and Lennox Lewis to learn how to box and control a fight with his jab at least, and then fight again. Doubt if he needs the money though.
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Wilder is what he is. He isnt improving anything. If he fights again he should fight anyone but fury
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Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: 16 Apr 2022, 11:28 Wilder is what he is. He isnt improving anything. If he fights again he should fight anyone but fury

I used to think that fighters could change their style with a bit of training, but it never happens.

A skilful fighter can try to change tactics but a crude one dimensional bomber like Wilder should stick to what he does best. What he does better than anyone on the planet.

Anyway, his battles with Fury were hardly as one sided as some like to make out.

They were hardly as one sided as Dempsey v Tunney.

2 times Wilder came within a whisker of sleeping Fury.

Chisora, with his willingness to get hit would be ready made for Wilder. Unfortunately Wilder would inevitably regard it as a step down in both prestige and purse.
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wilder didnt win in 3 tries, got ko'd twice, and won like maybe 6 rounds out of 28 lol. you can puff it up how you like though

obviously its nuts to think wilder could reinvent himself as a fighter when he's going on 37 , never shown any sign of changing, and is already contemplating retirement. it's down from here for him if anything
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IRONFIST wrote: 01 Mar 2022, 11:06 Of course Wilder will duck Chizza. Big risk for little reward.
That's not a duck. It's a wise business decision. Although I wouldn't consider Chisora a big risk these days. He looked pretty faded his last time out against Parker. And Chisora isn't exactly known for winning big fights.
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ewenhay wrote: 02 Mar 2022, 07:02 Not a Wilder fan but why does he even need to fight Chisora?

Wouldn't exactly call this a duck just because Chisora calls him out.
Del Boy has been a great gatekeeper to the top tier of the HW division for years. Dunno if he still has much left now though.
But as far as taking a fight to ease back into it after 3 straight losses, Del or someone like him is a good test to get rounds in, and see how it goes.
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telling of the quality on wilder's resume that after 45 fights a win over an even somewhat fresh delly would still have been a top 2 guy he's beaten
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Troll thread

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Wilder's done folks. This thread is senseless. Time to move on.
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margaret thatcher wrote: 17 Apr 2022, 20:59 telling of the quality on wilder's resume that after 45 fights a win over an even somewhat fresh delly would still have been a top 2 guy he's beaten
Not a fan of spilzka eh?
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Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: 17 Apr 2022, 21:26
margaret thatcher wrote: 17 Apr 2022, 20:59 telling of the quality on wilder's resume that after 45 fights a win over an even somewhat fresh delly would still have been a top 2 guy he's beaten
Not a fan of spilzka eh?

spizzy is great for some brutal ktfos. chisora also slept him brutally in 2 rounds , nasty stuff :oo

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It was that Wilder fight with Charlie Z (you have to see it) that persuaded Fury to take on Wilder.

Since then Wilder's rep hasn't been the same.

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Charlie takes a hell of a punch. Im not joking
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