margaret thatcher wrote: ↑19 Apr 2022, 17:49
duhaupas took an insane amount of clean, loaded up shots from him and never went down. stiverne in the first fight took absolutely tons too and went the distance on his feet
his power is huge no doubt, though some ppl go overboard with the whole thingy that he just needs to touch a guy with 1 right and the fights over. the whole 'wilder's opponent needs to be perfect' stuff. no they dont.
Wilder supporters: "If he touches you with that righthand your knocked out till 2027"
Fury supporters: "Fury must have the best chin in the world because he got up from a wilder right hand"
Fury & wilder Supporters: "King kong is a boogie man, wilder beat king kong, so wilder is elite" *while beating each other off*
A healthy Wilder has a chance. I'm not sure how much is left of Wilder after two consecutive KO defeats and no comeback fights. But Wilder was able to land some stuff on Fury in the first and third fights. Usyk might have more skill than Fury; but once you factor in height and reach, Usyk might not be overall harder to hit than Fury. Reminder that Fury absolutely flummoxed Wlad, and Wlad was a guy who won every fight 120-108. So, yeah, Wilder definitely has a chance. Wilder is probably an underdog in general, and certainly a clear underdog right now as he recovers from two KO's.
Lackeos wrote: ↑21 Apr 2022, 00:42
A healthy Wilder has a chance. I'm not sure how much is left of Wilder after two consecutive KO defeats and no comeback fights. But Wilder was able to land some stuff on Fury in the first and third fights. Usyk might have more skill than Fury; but once you factor in height and reach, Usyk might not be overall harder to hit than Fury. Reminder that Fury absolutely flummoxed Wlad, and Wlad was a guy who won every fight 120-108. So, yeah, Wilder definitely has a chance. Wilder is probably an underdog in general, and certainly a clear underdog right now as he recovers from two KO's.
Pertinent point about Wilder being able to land on Fury in the first and third fights. Imagine Uysk is Fury in the second fight
Wilder would have a solid punchers chance as in any fight but
Usyk isn't going to fight him. Where is the reward for that risk ?
Usyk will fight Joshua again, maybe Fury if he wins and then ride
off into the sunset.
Tony1244 wrote: ↑19 Apr 2022, 09:50
I'd have to favor Usyk, but Wilder, like Earnie Shavers, always has that puncher's chance against about anybody.
And Shavers, like Wilder, very rarely beat anyone of note, and lost to just about every good fighter he faced that wasn't a journeyman, or a faded corpse.
Tony1244 wrote: ↑19 Apr 2022, 09:50
I'd have to favor Usyk, but Wilder, like Earnie Shavers, always has that puncher's chance against about anybody.
And Shavers, like Wilder, very rarely beat anyone of note, and lost to just about every good fighter he faced that wasn't a journeyman, or a faded corpse.
I think we fight fans are sometimes a bit harsh judging fighters. No one that I know of is calling Wilder an all time great or anything like that but he did beat a few genuine contenders. He is what he is. He's usually in interesting fights, has a big mouth, but has limited skills. I do salute the fact he has done a lot with his limited skills and his late start.
